Old NPC results
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Is there a site that has NPC match results prior to 2004?
The offical NZR site has information going back to 2004:
I'm just after basic info: score, location & date
Yes, I know this in rugby almanacks but non-digital isn't useful
@Stargazer any ideas?
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@Duluth Not on any of the NZR websites, not on the NZ Rugby Museum website, not on the NZ History website and not on the Te Ara website. Wikipedia neither.
On https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/npc-itm-cup-heartland-championship you can find them, but - unfortunately - it looks like the results are listed by province, not by year. So if - for example - you'd want to find all results from the year 2000, you'd have to look at the pages of all provinces involved.
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@Duluth Maybe we could Fern source the results and create a branch of the website that has the stats?
TBH, I probably have all the Almanacks in question in storage in NZ, we just need to find a minion to upload all the info.
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@Nepia said in Old NPC results:
@Duluth Maybe we could Fern source the results and create a branch of the website that has the stats?
The intention is to have a NPC version of this SR page: https://www.thesilverfern.com/results
I'll improve it a bit, filter by date range etc
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@Stargazer said in Old NPC results:
but - unfortunately - it looks like the results are listed by province, not by year. So if - for example - you'd want to find all results from the year 2000, you'd have to look at the pages of all provinces involved.
Yeah the format is annoying. Collating season by season results would take ages
It's a shame because they have all the information
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@Duluth said in Old NPC results:
@Nepia said in Old NPC results:
@Duluth Maybe we could Fern source the results and create a branch of the website that has the stats?
The intention is to have a NPC version of this SR page: https://www.thesilverfern.com/results
I'll improve it a bit, filter by date range etc
Shit, that's sweet, I didn't even know it existed! Nice work.
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Might be able to find some stuff in the National Library's archives.
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I thought Haka.co.nz used to have them all but they don’t seem to have any stats now.
If you set up a format we can fill in the data from almanacs. Do a couple each -
the old taniwharugby site had stats on there, most I had managed to find from somewhere in the very early 2000's (maybe only results around that period not prior to 2000) although all Northland oriented, so I guess like that page others just end up disappearing?
Even had a spreadsheet for NPC and 3N, think I lost it when a laptop died....
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@taniwharugby said in Old NPC results:
the old taniwharugby site had stats on there, most I had managed to find from somewhere in the very early 2000's (maybe only results around that period not prior to 2000) although all Northland oriented, so I guess like that page others just end up disappearing?
Even had a spreadsheet for NPC and 3N, think I lost it when a laptop died....
Hey, well, thanks for fuck all!
😀😝
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@Hooroo hey, if we relied on people contributing more than SFA to threads, place would be empty!!
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@Hooroo said in Old NPC results:
@taniwharugby said in Old NPC results:
the old taniwharugby site had stats on there, most I had managed to find from somewhere in the very early 2000's (maybe only results around that period not prior to 2000) although all Northland oriented, so I guess like that page others just end up disappearing?
Even had a spreadsheet for NPC and 3N, think I lost it when a laptop died....
Hey, well, thanks for fuck all!
😀😝
You called?
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I can offer results and tables for the NPC between 1976 and 1996 courtesy of a book I have. Not digital though.
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Is haka preserved on archive.org?
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@Stargazer said in Old NPC results:
@Duluth Not on any of the NZR websites, not on the NZ Rugby Museum website, not on the NZ History website and not on the Te Ara website. Wikipedia neither.
On https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/npc-itm-cup-heartland-championship you can find them, but - unfortunately - it looks like the results are listed by province, not by year. So if - for example - you'd want to find all results from the year 2000, you'd have to look at the pages of all provinces involved.
That site is the only current one showing all results back to 1975
Loads of info but the results are sadly in PDFs and,as you say, only by union.Could see how easy the PDF format converts into excel. I guess. At first glance it would take a bit of manipulation but if it is consistent a bit of vba may sort it out. If not then a manual task.
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@Crucial I'll ask around at work and see if I can find something...
Edit: Yeah nah haven't got anything, it doesn't export very nicely to excel either.
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@Duluth said in Old NPC results:
Is there a site that has NPC match results prior to 2004?
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I'm just after basic info: score, location & date
While I haven't checked every link, that info is probably all here at rugbyarchive.net :
You will need to scroll to the bottom of each page and expand the Match Schedule section.
The links are for Division 1 but Div 2 & 3, etc., are also there if you use the Linked Competitions urls near the top right of each season page
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Thanks that link has everything I was looking for
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Thanks for the other suggestions/offers too
I'll get something running before the NPC starts
Still haven't decided if it will include all divisions (I might skip 3rd division but include the NI and SI 2nd divisions from the early years)
First division only only, then the 14 team comp post 2006Filtering will include date ranges and the ability to only show knock out games. Apart from that it will be similar to the SR results page
Any other suggestions?
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As far as I can tell the NPC was only played in 1977 and 1983 and then from 1997 onwards.
Historical Fixtures & Results
