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    • Duluth
      Duluth last edited by

      Is there a site that has NPC match results prior to 2004?

      The offical NZR site has information going back to 2004:

      Historical Fixtures & Results

      Historical Fixtures & Results

      I'm just after basic info: score, location & date

      Yes, I know this in rugby almanacks but non-digital isn't useful

      @Stargazer any ideas?

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      • K
        Kiwidom @Duluth last edited by

        @Duluth rugbyhistory. Co.nz had npc results from 1975 to 2019 - its great

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        • Stargazer
          Stargazer @Duluth last edited by

          @Duluth Not on any of the NZR websites, not on the NZ Rugby Museum website, not on the NZ History website and not on the Te Ara website. Wikipedia neither.

          On https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/npc-itm-cup-heartland-championship you can find them, but - unfortunately - it looks like the results are listed by province, not by year. So if - for example - you'd want to find all results from the year 2000, you'd have to look at the pages of all provinces involved.

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          • Nepia
            Nepia @Duluth last edited by

            @Duluth Maybe we could Fern source the results and create a branch of the website that has the stats?

            TBH, I probably have all the Almanacks in question in storage in NZ, we just need to find a minion to upload all the info.

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            • Duluth
              Duluth @Nepia last edited by

              @Nepia said in Old NPC results:

              @Duluth Maybe we could Fern source the results and create a branch of the website that has the stats?

              The intention is to have a NPC version of this SR page: https://www.thesilverfern.com/results

              I'll improve it a bit, filter by date range etc

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              • Duluth
                Duluth @Stargazer last edited by

                @Stargazer said in Old NPC results:

                but - unfortunately - it looks like the results are listed by province, not by year. So if - for example - you'd want to find all results from the year 2000, you'd have to look at the pages of all provinces involved.

                Yeah the format is annoying. Collating season by season results would take ages

                It's a shame because they have all the information

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                • Nepia
                  Nepia @Duluth last edited by

                  @Duluth said in Old NPC results:

                  @Nepia said in Old NPC results:

                  @Duluth Maybe we could Fern source the results and create a branch of the website that has the stats?

                  The intention is to have a NPC version of this SR page: https://www.thesilverfern.com/results

                  I'll improve it a bit, filter by date range etc

                  Shit, that's sweet, I didn't even know it existed! Nice work.

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                  • Duluth
                    Duluth last edited by

                    A few more seasons

                    NPC History

                    1976-1981

                    2002 & 2003

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                    • Tim
                      Tim last edited by

                      Might be able to find some stuff in the National Library's archives.

                      https://natlib.govt.nz/items?i[century]=1900&i[subject]=Canterbury+Rugby+Football+Union&i[usage]=Unknown

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                      • Crucial
                        Crucial last edited by

                        I thought Haka.co.nz used to have them all but they don’t seem to have any stats now.
                        If you set up a format we can fill in the data from almanacs. Do a couple each

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                        • taniwharugby
                          taniwharugby last edited by taniwharugby

                          the old taniwharugby site had stats on there, most I had managed to find from somewhere in the very early 2000's (maybe only results around that period not prior to 2000) although all Northland oriented, so I guess like that page others just end up disappearing?

                          Even had a spreadsheet for NPC and 3N, think I lost it when a laptop died....

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                          • Hooroo
                            Hooroo @taniwharugby last edited by

                            @taniwharugby said in Old NPC results:

                            the old taniwharugby site had stats on there, most I had managed to find from somewhere in the very early 2000's (maybe only results around that period not prior to 2000) although all Northland oriented, so I guess like that page others just end up disappearing?

                            Even had a spreadsheet for NPC and 3N, think I lost it when a laptop died....

                            Hey, well, thanks for fuck all!

                            πŸ˜€πŸ˜

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                            • taniwharugby
                              taniwharugby @Hooroo last edited by taniwharugby

                              @Hooroo hey, if we relied on people contributing more than SFA to threads, place would be empty!!

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                              • Bones
                                Bones @Hooroo last edited by

                                @Hooroo said in Old NPC results:

                                @taniwharugby said in Old NPC results:

                                the old taniwharugby site had stats on there, most I had managed to find from somewhere in the very early 2000's (maybe only results around that period not prior to 2000) although all Northland oriented, so I guess like that page others just end up disappearing?

                                Even had a spreadsheet for NPC and 3N, think I lost it when a laptop died....

                                Hey, well, thanks for fuck all!

                                πŸ˜€πŸ˜

                                You called?

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                                • Bovidae
                                  Bovidae last edited by

                                  I can offer results and tables for the NPC between 1976 and 1996 courtesy of a book I have. Not digital though.

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                                  • Tim
                                    Tim last edited by

                                    Is haka preserved on archive.org?

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                                    • Crucial
                                      Crucial @Stargazer last edited by Crucial

                                      @Stargazer said in Old NPC results:

                                      @Duluth Not on any of the NZR websites, not on the NZ Rugby Museum website, not on the NZ History website and not on the Te Ara website. Wikipedia neither.

                                      On https://www.rugbyhistory.co.nz/npc-itm-cup-heartland-championship you can find them, but - unfortunately - it looks like the results are listed by province, not by year. So if - for example - you'd want to find all results from the year 2000, you'd have to look at the pages of all provinces involved.

                                      That site is the only current one showing all results back to 1975
                                      Loads of info but the results are sadly in PDFs and,as you say, only by union.

                                      Could see how easy the PDF format converts into excel. I guess. At first glance it would take a bit of manipulation but if it is consistent a bit of vba may sort it out. If not then a manual task.

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                                      • Bones
                                        Bones @Crucial last edited by Bones

                                        @Crucial I'll ask around at work and see if I can find something...

                                        Edit: Yeah nah haven't got anything, it doesn't export very nicely to excel either.

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                                        • Kiap
                                          Kiap @Duluth last edited by Kiap

                                          @Duluth said in Old NPC results:

                                          Is there a site that has NPC match results prior to 2004?

                                          ....

                                          I'm just after basic info: score, location & date

                                          While I haven't checked every link, that info is probably all here at rugbyarchive.net :

                                          1976 1977 1978 1979

                                          1980 1981 1982 1983 1984

                                          1985 1986 1987 1988 1989

                                          1990 1991 1992 1993 1994

                                          1995 1996 1997 1998 1999

                                          2000 2001 2002 2003

                                          You will need to scroll to the bottom of each page and expand the Match Schedule section.

                                          The links are for Division 1 but Div 2 & 3, etc., are also there if you use the Linked Competitions urls near the top right of each season page

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                                          • Duluth
                                            Duluth @Kiap last edited by

                                            @Kiap

                                            Thanks that link has everything I was looking for

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                                            • Duluth
                                              Duluth last edited by Duluth

                                              Thanks for the other suggestions/offers too

                                              I'll get something running before the NPC starts

                                              Still haven't decided if it will include all divisions (I might skip 3rd division but include the NI and SI 2nd divisions from the early years)
                                              First division only only, then the 14 team comp post 2006

                                              Filtering will include date ranges and the ability to only show knock out games. Apart from that it will be similar to the SR results page

                                              Any other suggestions?

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                                              • shark
                                                shark last edited by

                                                As far as I can tell the NPC was only played in 1977 and 1983 and then from 1997 onwards.

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