Dissection Of The Funt

NTA

Well, its been 4 months since my last post in the old thread, and time has not been kind.
 
Though it could be worse - I left for NZ at 102.3 and came back at 102.7 which was mainly down to all the walking.
 
Back at work now and with more time in the office and less working from home, I will be working to a better routine, with less available sugar to call upon when bored/tired/pissed off (I'm having sugar withdrawals as we speak). The "control pants" I have at work are somewhat snug and some of the shirts I bought in the low 90s aren't going to be a good look right now.
 
I'll get the spreadsheet set up and do the weight + tape measure thing after getting into warmups this week.
 
The goal is 90kg by my birthday (5 months from yesterday). Going to take a fair bit of work but it can be done.

Nepia

Good luck NTA, I did the same about this time last year and dropped down to 90kg fairly quickly - walking every day and no sugar. Actually, I'd have thought that with how hot it is out west you'd struggle to keep the weight on. ;)

NTA

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Smart arse. 
 
Actually, you'd think its more a case that shivering in the wife's idea of "mild" would have the kilos falling off. Alas, we have a fully stocked pantry.

taniwharugby

yea my Missus keeps telling me I dont need to lose any weight, but am back up to 95.5kg...the holiday period has been such that 
 
TBH am pretty happy with my shape, stomach aside, but seeing my dad and brother in worse state, I know I have a real battle!!
 
a) eat too much
 drink too much'
c) too farken hot to run my usual route at work and then spend 3 hours sitting in my sweaty clothes until I cool enough to make it worth having a shower! 
 
In better news, I had my annual check up last week, doc says am in great shape, maybe a few kg over, low blood pressure, low cholestorol, and more importably, a clean bill on the other test males should get when they leave thier 30's....fortunately by the less invasive manner.
 
Was good too, he asked questions no other Doctor has asked me before; how is the mental state, how is the sex life.

NTA

The annual medical is a good point - getting blood tests picks up a lot of shit you otherwise might miss. I don't really do it because I'm a regular blood donor I know my BP is always around 120/70. Plus they haven't called me to say "that last lot of plasma you gave us? Uh, yeah..."

taniwharugby

I donate too, but had a couple of moles that I wanted looked at too as well.
 
I am not sure what they test you for after you donate here??
 
As I said, I got my bloods done for cancers too, as they are a more accurate way than the invasive prostate exam....

JK

Good to see you back in the game Nick.
 
Just remember its 80% diet, 20% exercise so dont feel you need to slog it out on the pavement etc to get results. Just focus on getting your eating right first and foremost and results will come.

NTA

Yeah diet has started well if the sugar withdrawal headache yesterday is anything to go by If I minimise the processed sugar component, the cravings just don't arise so I'll concentrate on that to start with and gradually cut portions - at that point I can go back to a restricted form of Diet Day Off every Saturday and really get to work on it.
 
This week just been doing a bit of basic work to make sure there are no injuries that are going to prevent progress. The goal is going to be ~12kg inside 5 months which will look easy the first 8 weeks but then start to get really hard. At that point I might even start to produce enough muscle mass that <90 becomes difficult, but we'll see.
 
 
 
 
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I am not sure what they test you for after you donate here??
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I'm AB+ which is "universal donor" status (about 4% of people world wide) so when I donate plasma they mark it as "clinical" i.e. take it straight to the local hospital for use. They do a bit of screening on it there just for the obvious nasties, because they're pretty much using it straight away.

NTA

Official measurement Day 0:
 
Weight 101.8kg
Chest 115
Waist 107
Hips 111
 
Dang!

antipodean

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Official measurement Day 0:
 
Weight 101.8kg
Chest 115
Waist 107
Hips 111
 
Dang!
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The elusive hourglass figure.

Crucial

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Yeah diet has started well if the sugar withdrawal headache yesterday is anything to go by If I minimise the processed sugar component, the cravings just don't arise so I'll concentrate on that to start with and gradually cut portions - at that point I can go back to a restricted form of Diet Day Off every Saturday and really get to work on it.
 
This week just been doing a bit of basic work to make sure there are no injuries that are going to prevent progress. The goal is going to be ~12kg inside 5 months which will look easy the first 8 weeks but then start to get really hard. At that point I might even start to produce enough muscle mass that <90 becomes difficult, but we'll see.
 
 
 
 
 
I'm AB+ which is "universal donor" status (about 4% of people world wide) so when I donate plasma they mark it as "clinical" i.e. take it straight to the local hospital for use. They do a bit of screening on it there just for the obvious nasties, because they're pretty much using it straight away.
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I can't donate blood. Something to do with 'Mad Cow Disease'.
Personally I don't think that who I choose to marry should have anything to do with it, but them's the rules.

taniwharugby

topic diversion here...see I dont quite get that Mad Cow thing, my wife being in the UK during that time cant donate in NZ, but can in the UK.
 
If you were born or arrived in the UK >1998 (I think it is) do they restrict who can donate to you based on them being being in the UK in that time period in the UK where Mad Cow was about (80'sish....???) 
 
Are there not tests to see if the blood has this in it, I expect there is a pretty decent number of potential donors in NZ they are excluding because of it?

NTA

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Very few donor centres in the Waikato from ahem "close contact" with cows I understand :yes:
 
 
But yeah I guess they have to weigh the cost of testing the samples of everyone who ticks "Mad Cow" versus business as usual.
 
Same as people who get tatts or dudes who are into dudes. You'd think with HIV now being well established, people would know whether they're cool to give blood, but even the porn industry occasionally gets a scare.

taniwharugby

Still, I woulda thought with the possibly hundreds of thousands of peeps in NZ that are excluded (Kiwis, ex-pat Brits) from donating because of this, the extra donations would outweigh the cost, but then I guess the cost must be extortionate to set it up?? 
 
Just seems odd to me, that is all...
 
I had a nice homegrown lettuce, homegrown cherry tomato and not home grown teriyaki chicken salad for lunch again today, YUM!!

NTA

Saturday is officially the weigh-in day (and Treat Meal day) so none of the measurements changed this morning except weight: 101.2kg
 
Didn't do too much this week except a 15km bike ride to start toughening the glutes again, as well as putting the eating markers back down.
 
Onward and downward.

Wairau

Good luck. Good to see you back in the saddle.
Why don't you do this, it'll work: Home from work, have a green vege salad, and half a piece of fruit (for sugar) then go out for an hour ride every evening at good speed. Don't eat anything afterward, just plenty of water and sleep. As you sleep, fat will be used to replenish the muscle glycogen stores.

NTA

Might put that in the mix for week 2. Nights on which to do it are limited due to kid shit.
 
Sunday I put in about 160kg of concrete around the pool area because the neighbour's retaining wall is fucked.
Monday was Australia Day, so I drank beer
Tuesday was karate.
Tonight I ran 3km in 17 minutes and then walked another 1.8km home in similar time. Not a bad start for the road work.
 
Once I can pull it in to under 16:30 I'll go back to 5km - or if I'm feeling particularly stupid

NTA

Weigh in today:
 
Weight 100.8kg
Chest 115
Waist 107
Hips 110
 
So 1kg down since Day 0 (11 days). Not huge results, but then I haven't been burning a lot, and sneaking the odd treat here and there. This week I'll start incorporating some body weight exercises into the mix in order to get the heavy lifters burning.
 
I'm going to be tested in the next month or two - work has basically said they're running out of funded projects, so they've given me the opportunity to work on something new. BUT it requires me to commute into town - 1 hour train ride each way, compared to my current 6km driving commute (which can take up to half an hour depending on dickheads).
 
So in addition to having a larger selection of lunch outlets to choose from, I'm going to have less time to organise my day. And I can't just jump in the car and go home quickly for a run or ride before picking the kids up.
 
Wife is stressed about it, but I figure given we're going to need to pick up extra before/after school care, plus the cost of the commute, I'll need to ask work for another $10K p.a. to make it worth my while. After all, while I appreciate the flexibility I've had to date, as well as the opportunity to get into a new technology, I'm going into the city past a whole heap of jobs that suit my existing skillset and pay more than I'm currently getting. Skills that I've used to help the company generate or save millions.
 
We shall see.

dK

Have you thought about riding to the 2nd or 3rd train station from your home, that way you get two good rides a day. And should save you money as well

NTA

I've considered it - nearest station is about 6km by bike so I'd have to go further afield to get a decent ride. Unfortunately, it presents a few problems:
 
- Bike security is not a great feature of stations in my area, so leaving the bike there is risky
- Taking it with me costs more
- Sweating on the train is not a fantastic option either way, though I'm sure that will matter less in the cooler months
- I'll be severely stretched for time if I need to make a certain pickup/dropoff at either end of the day with the kids
- Not sure about the shower/change facilities at the other end at this point
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I think I might have to look at what the new workplace has, then consider whether I can go for a run at lunch or something...

NTA

A few basic bodyweights today to get the muscles woken up so I'm not <strike>lactating</strike> drowning in lactic acid like a fucker tomorrow and the next day:
 
5 chinups, 10 pushups, 20 squats, 1 minute rest
5 chinups, 10 pushups, 20 squats, 1 minute rest
4 chinups, 7 pushups, 10 squats
 
Muscle tone is pretty low. I've started with chins again because pullups is probably out of the question right now.
 
Did some abs tonight and a bit of karate practice - particularly lower stance to get the legs into shape.
 
Alarm is set for 6AM to go for a run. Distance TBD!

Paekakboyz

Bro if you are lactating I'd check your supplement programme!! We are meant to be shedding blood, sweat and tears not milk!!!

NTA

LOL good point. Checked my moobs and there is nothing there, than fuck.
 
After realising I was reading too late, I set the alarm to 0630 hours. More of a psychological thing ;)
 
Once I was out of bed, half the battle was won, so ran 3.02km in 16:59. Calves hurting like a mofo now as they get back into being smashed barefoot running style.
 
Can feel a little soreness in the torso from the chinups, so I'll get a few more of those in before dinner tonight.
 
 
Turns out the move to the CBD is "for a couple of months" so maybe it won't be a pay increase after all. But I'll still give it a go.

Crucial

Have you been enticed by Serena Williams new Berlei Ad? Control your bounce and all that?

NTA

Its more the fat on my back causing me problems. I've bashed my moobs around so much I can barely feel them any more.

dK

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Just wear the bra backwards

NTA

10 minute pushup routine tonight. Go to failure, rest 60 seconds, go again. Up until 10 minute mark.
 
21, 10, 4, 6, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 (last set on my knuckles)
 
Big dropoff from the first set due to lack of tone. That should come good.
 
Will probably ride the bike to work for the first time in ages tomorrow. Hope I remembered to leave enough shirts and pants and on site :think:

NTA

Didn't end up riding to work so went out this morning - 13.44km in 36:14 (22km/h). 
Week 2 down: 
Weight 100.7kg 
Chest 114cm 
Waist 107cm 
Hips 110cm 
Seeing a little bit of movement there so next week will be about ratcheting up the exercise and eliminating those last sugar fixes.

NTA

10 minute pushup test after a three day rest: 
22, 8, 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 2 - last set on knuckles after only a 20s break. 
Total of 63 beats the other day by 2. Better endurance too.

NTA

Finished off with some exercises from karate to tone legs, and a kata or two

NTA

Right been a coupla weeks - in between getting sick (lurgee) and the new job didn't really feel like fucking around exercising. Went back to karate Tuesday night and sweated like a mofo - humid day.
 
Weighed in each of the two prior Saturdays and still coming in at 100.7kg - didn't bother with the tape.
 
Still, must be doing something generally right with the diet given my measurements today:
 
99.6kg (first time under the ton in probably 6 months)
Chest 112cm
Waist 106cm
Hips 109cm
 
Time to get back on the horse, but not before I go buy a new notebook PC.

NTA

So obviously I ended up doing fuck all, but I had a bit of a relapse of the cold situation so decided to leave it another week. This time for sure!
 
Weigh in yesterday was nothing greatly different: 99.9kg, Chest 112, Waist 107, Hips 108.
 
At this point, a tick over 3 months until goal date (birthday) to get to what I want (91kg), but may have to settle for 95kg...

NTA

Should update generally I guess... slack fuck.
 
I'm hovering around 100kg without really trying. I've been having this weird thing that the optometrist describes as "ocular migraine" where I get general dimming of vision in my right eye, but no headache.
 
Except for one time where I went for a 3km run a few weeks ago. Got through the first km and then the right eye started to lose vision. Not totally but enough to be somewhat weird. Kept going, got to 3km in a shit time, decided to walk 2km roundabout route home. Ten minutes into that, BAM! Sharp headache that lasted for about ten minutes in the right side.
 
Was like the symptoms of a regular migraine compressed into a half-hour period.
 
Anyway since then I've had it a few times and put it down to stress. Cranial MRI was clear (they found nothing - ha ha) and eyes are 100% - especially for a bloke my age, apparently. 
 
Have played some rugby this year while I coach my local 2nd Grade - full game for Thirds a few weeks ago when we were short of numbers in the second row (not jumping, but threw 3/3 when the hooker went off), then a Fourth Grade Old Boys game (full scrum rules though) at THP on Saturday. In both games I got the dullness of vision in the right eye but ran it off with no headache. 
 
I also put myself on for the last 5 minutes of 2nd Grade on Saturday at loosehead. We were up 36-5 and I chased one of our big units through the line and to within 5 metres, then he got tackled, so I covered the ruck and then the next silly fluffybunny knocked it on. That was my try on the wraparound, right there. First one in 8 years!!! 
 
I'm fucking sore now of course. Silly old bugger.
 
So, shitty vision problems and freezing cold aside, I should really start doing some morning or evening walks to start getting things tightened up again in preparation for Spring.
 
Fat bastard out.

Wairau

That's shitty, hope you find out how to prevent it happening again! It's a good idea to start doing some long walks, and it may just relieve stress, too...

NTA

Yeah reckon its stress-based with all the work shit the last few months. So need to get some endorphins going.

JK

Dam mate that doesnt sound good at all. Hope you can sort it asap

NTA

Headed out for my first run in- well a few months i guess. Got the standard ocular migraine vision thing after the first 5 minutes but pressed through it with no headache. 3km in 16:41. Long way back but at 99.9kg not diabolical either. 
I am aiming to get a roll on with the running, build back to 5km as the weight comes off, and then see if the vision issues subside. 
At the same time I'll be doing some anaerobic work on the body weight side (burpees, chins, lunges, free squats) to see if that also brings on the vision bullshit and whether that is the better way to progress.
 
Current mantra is "95 by November" so I've got a few months to shed ~5kg (half a kilo per week) and keep it off over summer.
 
Then hit pre-season training next year (I'm coaching again because I'm a masochist) and make some of the boys vomit trying to keep up with me.
 
Want to be under 90kg by my 40th Birthday. I'm sick of my nice jeans and work shirts not fitting comfortably.

NTA

10 burpees* last night. Winded, but got through them. 
20 tonight. Serious oxygen debt and cravings for rest at 15. Finished, unhappily. 
Sooooo unfit.

the non-pushup kind. Shoulder is fucked, need to build that back up

MN5

Burpees are an absolute fluffybunny, no two ways about it, I find that with them it is mind over matter even if your 'jump' at the end after several reps doesn't result in you even leaving the floor. 
I haven't done em for ages, doing weighted lunges and plyometric jumps and shit instead.

NTA

Fuck's sake. Been a while. Tried to exercise a few times but the migraine aura and occasional headache have been off-putting.
 
Decided to do something about it this week, with a free 1 week pass to a group training gym owned by a friend of the family. Turned up tonight at the appointed time, and it was a ghost town. Dang.
 
So I came home and did a very short HIIT session - 30 on, 20 off, with a mixture of chinups, squats, squat jumps (vertical and horizontal), burpees, lunges, and pushups.
 
Worst 8 minutes of my year. Started to get the headache too so need to go see the chiro and get my neck checked out.

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