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@Tim to be fair in the lead up he was a lot more charismatic than I expected him to be having never bothered to listen to him speak prior. Absolute weasel though and perplexes me how those who support him cite Johnson as being horrible and a liar... Ummm...
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@Kirwan said in British Politics:
Been enjoyable watching so many of the extremists being wiped away
Yes, that's a good outcome but there's a fair few sensible Labour MP's who lost their seats, sadly.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in British Politics:
If that poll comes true.... Soooooo many battles to come
Boris vs Europe
Boris vs SNP
Left labor vs Far left labour
Lib dem vs Lib demCorbyn and McDonnell will be gone by Xmas.
You think? I reckon they are in complete denial about the popularity of their policies. They think theirs is a righteous cause and any failure to get people to vote for it is due to the right-biased news media. And you can bet they've got a plan to fix that...
Absolutely. A huge amount of Labour don’t believe in their policies. Gone by Friday.
My guess is he will hang in until the hard left can line up somebody else like Corbyn to replace him. I wouldn’t rule out them being dumb enough to push McDonnell forward.
Hey here’s a thought... Diane Abbott, Leader of the Opposition. POC (tick), female (tick), disabled (tick).
Maybe I'm just being optimistic but I do think the hard left policies of Labour are done. I'd like to think I don't necessarily have to vote blue when I walk into a polling booth. A credible opposition offering policies / plans which work in a credible democracy is what Labour should be. Not a left wing socialist haven.
I saw an argument on the train today. A woman had got off and there was a spare seat as two people argued that each other should take it. If you read a Corbyn agenda, this wasn't supposed to happen today. Apparently straight white people like me are now supposed to be fully entitled trampling over the sick, disabled and homeless to put more into our already substantially overflowing coffers.
I continue to be optimistic in that I think BoJo will push forward with his main agenda's as outlined. Crime, schooling, NHS. Yes, Brexit will trickle along and trade negotiations will open, and likely be very volatile (fisheries and ag will undoubtedly cause problems) but at least it now feels like we have a direction.
Corbyn is toast. It's time to celebrate.
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This, from Tory strategist, Dominic Cummings sums it up:
“After the shock of the referendum, MPs and journalists should have taken a deep breath and had a lot of self-reflection of why they misunderstood what was going on in the country, but instead a lot of people just doubled down on their own ideas and f it up even more.
“That’s why something like this happens against expectations.
“All these better than average educated Remainer campaigner types who have waved around for eight weeks, for the last four months and didn’t understand what was going on and didn’t understand they were driving everyone mad.”
Mr Cummings added: “Hopefully now they’ll learn because it’s not good for the country, the whole dynamic to carry on.
“MPs need to reflect, the media needs to reflect and they need to realise that the conversations they have in London are a million miles away from reality.”*
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
I saw an argument on the train today. A woman had got off and there was a spare seat as two people argued that each other should take it. If you read a Corbyn agenda, this wasn't supposed to happen today. Apparently straight white people like me are now supposed to be fully entitled trampling over the sick, disabled and homeless to put more into our already substantially overflowing coffers.
Spot on.
Treating people who don't agree with you as evil, greedy, fascistic scum might give you a warm and fuzzy feeling in your echo chamber, but bites you on the arse in the real world
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@Victor-Meldrew yeah, agree entirely. I remember when I lived here in the early noughties I couldn't believe how nasty British politics was. That was in the days of Hague vs Blair.
I feel in this election, that has heavily spilled over into the people and it's just not on. Social media posts (written by people who should and do know better) have been crazy. Time for the act to be cleaned up.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
s I couldn't believe how nasty British politics was.
And it's so counter-productive,
A few months ago, I read Gustafson's bio of Keith Holyoake. He used to tell his MP's there was no place for animosity against Opposition MPs and encouraged friendships across the political divide. Used to take Opposition MP's along with him on overseas visits.
No surprise he managed to radically change NZ as much as he did.
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So Corbyn won't lead Labour in to the next election.
He shouldn't lead them in the carol service.
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@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
So Corbyn won't lead Labour in to the next election.
He shouldn't lead them in the carol service.
Quote of the night from former Labour Minister Alan Johnson:
"Corbyn couldn't lead the working" class out of a paper bag
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@No-Quarter said in British Politics:
This is a parody account but it's actually highlighting an important reason as to why the main centre-left parties I'm the West are not doing well. It's become difficult to draw a distinction between them and the far left loonies, so people don't know what they're voting for anymore. They desperately need to clean house.
Titania McGrath is a parody?
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Amazing result. Seven elections in the past 5yrs (2x referenda, 3x general, 2x European) and probably now zero in the next 5yrs. Should make the whole political discourse less toxic.
As other posters have said, the lack of self-perspective from Labour/Momentum and the far left is staggering, and deeply amusing.
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Katie Hopkins has been uncharacteristically quiet
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Just going through the overall vote share and a few other points of note
UKIP had a terrible result with 23k votes across the entire country
To put this in perspective the Monster Raving Looney Party had almost 10k.
Brexit party did poorly as well with only 2% of the vote. Quite at odds with their Euro seats, although this cannot really be called unexpected
Tories took 44% of the vote share.
Despite Lib Dems having a disaster, they actually picked up over 50% more votes! Just not enough in the right places to get seats (including that of Jo Swinson).
Unsurprisingly, Labour got decimated going from 40% to 32%. Still blows my mind that 32% could vote for the anti-Semite Socialist.Nice to put this to bed for 5 years. I don't think I could go through another one of these.
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The celeb twitter meltdown has been glorious.
The sheer bile and self-hatred spewing out from rich people who espouse love and togetherness is epic.
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@Bones said in British Politics:
@TeWaio "This account doesn't exist"......maybe she has?
"Among artists without talent Marxism will always be popular, since it enables them to blame society for the fact that nobody wants to hear what they have to say"
Clive James
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@booboo said in British Politics:
@No-Quarter said in British Politics:
This is a parody account but it's actually highlighting an important reason as to why the main centre-left parties I'm the West are not doing well. It's become difficult to draw a distinction between them and the far left loonies, so people don't know what they're voting for anymore. They desperately need to clean house.
Titania McGrath is a parody?
Andrew Doyle - the creator of Titania actually voted for Corbyn in the leadership referendum. Then he got redpilled and realised what a complete wankbiscuit the bearded loon is .
Apart from the celebrity thrashwanking about what selfish racists the people of the Uk are for not voting for Labour the arsecracks over at the standard have been pushing the narrative that the Uk media would never give a proper socialist a real chance . There’s not a lot of honesty in the far left , it’s one of the reasons it’s so scary to think about them getting real power .
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