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  • MachpantsM Offline
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    @Nepia said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    @cgrant said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    How old is Bryn Evans ? I have nothing against him as he is solid and experienced but the likes of Parsons, Cridge and Tucker are surely very disappointed.
    And what about Dalzell ? Off to Japan ?
    K. Boshier and S. Parker were already contracted but they can feel lucky as players like Roots and Choat were outstanding during the M10 Cup IMO and would have been excellent choices.

    Bryn Evans selection is stupid. He shouldn’t be there ahead of his two teammates or any of the spate of locks leaving the country. (Agreed, nothing against Evans, he was awesome for the Magpies in his heyday).

    WTF kind of system sees Hickey and Evans get spots but not McClutchie and Parsons.

    And there’s no way fatty Savea is one of the top midfielders in the country.

    Fatty Savea is in as an outside back, even worse! He may well be playing an Argentinian ChocolateBar as a fellow ‘midfielder’ - dangerous combo

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    Paul Cully's take:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300174157/super-rugby-the-10-unluckiest-players-to-miss-out-on-contracts

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    @pukunui Yeah don't know why myself. Most of them are well past their best and everyone has experienced ABs in their squads anyway. Is that not enough experience right there?

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    @taniwharugby Kind of annoying to read a press article that doesn't mention a player (Tua) having a serious operation like a shoulder reconstruction.

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    @Tim I expect Cully just went over a list of players he thought were unlucky, without checking if there was a reason for thier omission.

    Lambourn has played for the US, so has to be an exception to be included in a Super team doesnt he?

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    @taniwharugby Does that also apply to players with NZ citizenship and born in NZ?

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    @Stargazer probably not, but really i have no idea anymore why some of the decisions that are made, are made, which is why I asked.

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    @Stargazer said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    @taniwharugby Does that also apply to players with NZ citizenship and born in NZ?

    Yes it does. Same as the many PI kiwis, if you make the national team, you are now not eligible for ABs - which is the criteria

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    @cgrant said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    How old is Bryn Evans ? I have nothing against him as he is solid and experienced but the likes of Parsons, Cridge and Tucker are surely very disappointed.
    And what about Dalzell ? Off to Japan ?
    K. Boshier and S. Parker were already contracted but they can feel lucky as players like Roots and Choat were outstanding during the M10 Cup IMO and would have been excellent choices.

    He was only fourth choice lock at HB behind Messrs Walker-Leawere, Cridge and Parsons - go figure that one out.

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    I wonder if Evans was signed prior to Mitre 10 Cup?

    That's happened before - a few years ago Blues signed Hoani Matenga prior to Mitre 10 Cup and then Auckland ended up having a good Mitre 10 Cup season with a really strong locking performance by Fatialofa but Blues didn't have a spot for him so he ended up going to the Canes.

    Signing journeymen prior to Mitre 10 Cup is a flawed strategy.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    I wonder if Evans was signed prior to Mitre 10 Cup?

    you'd have expected it to get out at some point, always someone in the know that finds these things out.

    That said, if they did, makes them even dumber for not waiting to pick up a form lock that might emerge

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    @bobily2 Didn't realise Tyrone Thompson wasn't signed. Was really impressed with him this year.

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    It's even worse when the Highlanders already had 2 locks in their system (Whetton and Tucker). Tucker is still available.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    Signing journeymen prior to Mitre 10 Cup is a flawed strategy.

    I agree, but this year was more difficult than normal. There was a possibility the NPC would be interrupted/cancelled

    That would've created an incentive to settle on a squad quicker and leave even less spots open for NPC form

    I wonder if that explains some unusual selections (eg no one picking Choat)

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    @KiwiMurph said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    I wonder if Evans was signed prior to Mitre 10 Cup?

    Signing journeymen prior to Mitre 10 Cup is a flawed strategy.

    He only had about twenty or so games for the Hurricanes and did nothing to really set the world on fire in the three years he was there. It would be a surprise if he has improved any in the ten years since he left to play for London Irish. He must be in his mid to late thirties by now. Perhaps there might be a Super Rugby Presidents Grade being developed with the aim to get it up and running in a couple of years? He must have been signed up to prevent other franchises getting their hands on him for that grade!

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    @Bovidae said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    It's even worse when the Highlanders already had 2 locks in their system (Whetton and Tucker). Tucker is still available.

    Whetton was only injury cover or WTG or something and we don't know he didn't sign up with the Tahs first looking for more start

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    @Tim really lazy journalism, it’s annoys the heck out of me , I have known about Tamati’s surgery for about a month ..

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    @Higgins

    He was named in the Premiership team of the decade awhile back - and the Premiership has had some good locks. It has to count for something. Though it might've been partially based on longevity rather than a couple of particularly dominant seasons

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    Niko Jones and Anton Segner both have massive future ahead of them IMHO. I am sure they will be involved in Super Rugby next year as development players and might even get some game time.

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    @sparky said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

    Niko Jones and Anton Segner both have massive future ahead of them IMHO. I am sure they will be involved in Super Rugby next year as development players and might even get some game time.

    I haven't seen enough of Jones yet to see what he brings to the table. I recall around the same stage in his career his dad was not the biggest, but he was stronger than the average loosie with some good pace. Guessing the young fella is similar with his sevens background.

    I think Segner is going to be a scary beast.

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