Formula 1 2021
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@duluth said in Formula 1 2021:
Fuel is heavy. They are loaded for a certain number of laps. Extending the race would basically make it a compulsory pit stop
Yeah, I did think of that, but how much do they burn when cruising around after the safety car with no accelerating or braking?
we have seen cars run out of fuel before in the home straight though so they do cut it pretty fine!
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@duluth said in Formula 1 2021:
@toddy said in Formula 1 2021:
TV schedules?
There's already a max race time. It comes into play occasionally when there's a red flag and the race gets stopped and restarted after a long break
Imagine this in rugby, you're down 2 points and some French flipper goes down and milks the max game-time rule.
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Apparently Masi used the same rule in the opposite direction last year:
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The more stuff that comes out on how Masi managed this race the worse it looks for F1.
There is no rational reason for allowing some cars to unlap but not others unless you are trying to contrive a finish. Furthermore to state that no cars will be allowed to unlap and then change your mind after a protest from one team and adjust that decision to benefit that team and that team only just stinks.
No blame attaching to Red Bull here, they’re trying to win, but the handling of this race and the finish in particular was pretty poor. Very exciting though and maybe that is the rationale. But it’s not fair.
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Masi really made a messy but if talking outcomes you have to go back to decisions by everybody and whether they had the rug pulled from under them at the time.
Mercedes had shit bad luck with the crash. By being in front they couldn't pit. If they had the RB would cruise past. Any talk that they thought Masi was going to close the race under a flag or that they were safe is rubbish if you listen to theradio talk. It was a decision made on track position. It wasn't even as if they thought the lapped cars may stay in place if they dropped back. You can hear them within moments confirming to Lewis that he would probably have Max up his exhaust on freshies at a restart.
RB did take a gamble on the expectation that the lapped cars would be removed with a lap to go, hence the pressure they placed on that happening.
It is only after the fact that it can be seen that if Masi followed the rules the way he had previously the race would have likely
finished under caution.
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nice to see F1 and the Americas Cup have so much in common
"sport" for entitled rich fluffybunnies decided in the courts.
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Mercedes say they won’t pursue appeal of Abu Dhabi stewards decision, as FIA announce investigation | Formula 1®
Mercedes have announced that they won’t be pursuing an appeal over the race stewards’ dismissal of their protest at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix last Sunday, which saw Red Bull driver Max Verstappen crowned champion.
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I’m trying to imagine the level of fallout if it had been Schumacher and Ferrari rather than Hamilton and Mercedes. 😱
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@bones said in Formula 1 2021:
Mercedes say they won’t pursue appeal of Abu Dhabi stewards decision, as FIA announce investigation | Formula 1®
Mercedes have announced that they won’t be pursuing an appeal over the race stewards’ dismissal of their protest at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix last Sunday, which saw Red Bull driver Max Verstappen crowned champion.
I both commend Team MB and Lewis while slightly concerned that Lewis has been denied an eighth world championship. Ultimately some clarity needs to come out of this regarding the race director's ability to construct a result.
One of the best things to come out of this so far is the inability of teams to bother the race director for next season.
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More controversy coming up...
Not completely new but spreads further doubt and suspicion.
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@catogrande said in Formula 1 2021:
More controversy coming up...
Not completely new but spreads further doubt and suspicion.
They were out straight after the race, but basically show that, in the words of Vettel ' he put the show above the sport' ie bent the rules to make it more exciting. The problem being it was under direct instructions from one team. A total farce
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A few months on I've been doing a bit of thinking about this.
I still maintain that as a Max fan, I think he got very lucky and Lewis got the shaft. But I don't necessarily think anything fishy went down to manufacture a Max win / Lewis loss, just an unfortunate incident the way the cards played, and these things happen in sport. Huge respect to Lewis for the way he's handled it. Dignified silence.
And then I think back to Lions tour 2017. When Garces / Poite did their thing. I suspect if I was a Lions fan, I'd hold the view above. Which to be honest, most have. The media, the opposite of course.
But as an AB fan, a large part of my rugby fandom died that day. It's never returned, honestly. And I suspect thats the way Lewis fans feel.
So yeah, I'm still mixed up. And unfortunately for my boy Max, I do feel an asterix is going to be beside his name as the 2021 champion. Which isn't fair on anybody.
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Yeah, it’s not like Verstappen is an unworthy champion. He’d done enough through the season to earn a championship (as had Hamilton), either would have been a deserved champion over the season. However based just on that race, you’re right Hamilton got shafted. A tense situation, a race director already under pressure for previous issues and a very vociferous team right in his ear and more to the point, in his head. I don’t blame Red Bull, they’re there to win, but what a farce.
Also Horner is a whiny bitch.
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@catogrande said in Formula 1 2021:
Also Horner is a whiny bitch.
I mean, you could make that your signature, delicious irony?
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@bones said in Formula 1 2021:
@catogrande said in Formula 1 2021:
Also Horner is a whiny bitch.
I mean, you could make that your signature, delicious irony?
Hey that's not fair. That's mean.
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Being a whiny bitch is kind of a core part of Horner's job. Wolff is the same, Horner is just better.
I don't like either of the them or Max or Lewis. But I think it's good for f1 to have a serious title battle.
The obvious solution seems to be having a minimum number of clear laps before a race can end (probably one maybe two) so that all teams know what will happen and the race director doesn't have to fret about which.team he's going to hand the title to.
Still not as bad as the farce that was Spa.
The smoking gun that exposed Aussie at centre of F1 title chaos
