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    NZ v Australia Test #2

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    • Hooroo
      Hooroo last edited by

      <p>I am desperate to win this.  That defeat last week knock the confidence out of me a bit. The past couple of years have been fabulous and I wasn't ready for this pumping.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>It will be interesting on the bowling selection.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>My biggest fear is that they have Williamsons number which is rather crushing!!</p>

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      • MN5
        MN5 last edited by

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="559276" data-time="1455749978">
        <div>
        <p><strong>I am desperate to win this</strong>.  That defeat last week knock the confidence out of me a bit. The past couple of years have been fabulous and I wasn't ready for this pumping.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>It will be interesting on the bowling selection.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>My biggest fear is that they have Williamsons number which is rather crushing!!</p>
        </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Didn't realize you'd been selected, well done. Are you replacing Anderson or Craig ?</p>

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        • Hooroo
          Hooroo last edited by

          <p>Stadium of 4 mil bruv!I am a part of this team!! :)</p>

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          • MN5
            MN5 last edited by

            <p>We ( thanks Hooroo ) traditionally get better as test series progress. I just hope that better is not another word for "less shit" if the first test is anything to go by.</p>

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            • Bovidae
              Bovidae last edited by

              <p>A first look at the pitch.  But what will it look like on Sat morning?</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p><img src="http://www.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/9/u/w/t/9/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.19uvbi.png/1455751384337.jpg" title="" alt="1455751384337.jpg"></p>

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              • SammyC
                SammyC last edited by

                <p>It rained very heavily overnight, but expected to be a hot couple of days here, so I'd expect it to dry out a bit before then</p>

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                • No Quarter
                  No Quarter last edited by

                  <p>Right, we've done more then enough analysis of Test #1, time to flush the dunny and move on.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Bracewell out, Rosco (still) out, Santner (still) out. Ouch.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>So we're looking at:</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Latham</p>
                  <p>Guppy</p>
                  <p>Kane</p>
                  <p>Nicholls</p>
                  <p>Baz</p>
                  <p>Anderson</p>
                  <p>BJ</p>
                  <p>Craig</p>
                  <p>Wagner/Henry</p>
                  <p>Southee</p>
                  <p>Boult</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>I do hope they take Henry, but will understand if they go for Wagner as he is more of a "3rd seamer" I.E. can truck in all day long with the old ball and hussle out wickets.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>If hydro is to be believed then Baz should, statistically speaking, be odds on to win the toss after losing the first. Bowl first and try and get the upper hand. You have to against Aus, you let them get even a sniff of the upper hand and it's all over.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>We gave Baz the ultimate send off from the ODI game. Now time to do the same in the test match arena.</p>

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                  • MN5
                    MN5 last edited by

                    <p>A big fucken "ouch" for Taylor being out but does Santner really justify the same reaction just yet ? hardly an automatic selection......</p>

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                    • No Quarter
                      No Quarter last edited by

                      <p>Yeah, more Rosco +2 others = ouch.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Early days but I do think Santner adds a lot to the team.</p>

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                      • MN5
                        MN5 last edited by

                        <p>Yep quite possibly, the last lanky looking awkward kid we selected who could spin it turned out pretty well.</p>

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                        • H
                          hydro11 last edited by

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="559288" data-time="1455752252">
                          <div>
                          <p>Right, we've done more then enough analysis of Test #1, time to flush the dunny and move on.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Bracewell out, Rosco (still) out, Santner (still) out. Ouch.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>So we're looking at:</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Latham</p>
                          <p>Guppy</p>
                          <p>Kane</p>
                          <p>Nicholls</p>
                          <p>Baz</p>
                          <p>Anderson</p>
                          <p>BJ</p>
                          <p>Craig</p>
                          <p>Wagner/Henry</p>
                          <p>Southee</p>
                          <p>Boult</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>I do hope they take Henry, but will understand if they go for Wagner as he is more of a "3rd seamer" I.E. can truck in all day long with the old ball and hussle out wickets.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>If hydro is to be believed then Baz should, statistically speaking, be odds on to win the toss after losing the first. Bowl first and try and get the upper hand. You have to against Aus, you let them get even a sniff of the upper hand and it's all over.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>We gave Baz the ultimate send off from the ODI game. Now time to do the same in the test match arena.</p>
                          </div>
                          </blockquote>
                          <p>All my statistical analysis breaks down if tosses aren't independent :yes:</p>
                          <p>If Santner was fit he would probably slot in at 6 and you can pick 4 fast bowlers.</p>

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                          • ACT Crusader
                            ACT Crusader last edited by

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="559285" data-time="1455751863">
                            <div>
                            <p>A first look at the pitch.  But what will it look like on Sat morning?</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p><img src="http://www.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/9/u/w/t/9/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.19uvbi.png/1455751384337.jpg" title="" alt="1455751384337.jpg"></p>
                            </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Man looks like an very green deck even at this late stage. Hopefully it does dry out a bit over the next couple of days because I'm not sure we have the batting lineup (should we be sent in again) to deal with a greenish wicket.</p>

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                            • gollum
                              gollum last edited by

                              <p>Not sure I'm quite in the "we are a great shot at winning this!" brigade. Last 2 years we've pumped Sri Lanka (not <em>IN</em> SL tho), the Windies (who are terrible), but generally been reamed by the Aussies ( 4 loses & a draw), couldn't beat an England team in disaray & won a weird one in Pak thanks to a Baz special after getting thrashed in the first one... that hardly screams "we are killing it!".</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>And against the big guys its very much been Kane & Ross hit a ton it or we get thrashed.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>But at least the groundsman is doing his job, a fast seamer, give Boult & Timmy a chance to win it. Pretty kmuch the model we saw in the day nighter. We can't beat Aussie on a 50/50 pitch, so our best hope is a seam friendly one that its a struggle to get past 250 on. It really does come down to the wicket. Unless its a VERY bowler friendly pitch its hard to see anything other than a repeat of the first one.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>For that reason I'd lean towards Henry, ultimately we have to take 20 wickets.    </p>

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                              • SammyC
                                SammyC last edited by

                                <p>It's going to be a typical warm windy Christchurch day today, so the pitch should dry out considerably.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Also tomorrow 29 degrees so can't see the green lasting too long</p>

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                                • Hooroo
                                  Hooroo last edited by

                                  <p>Slight bit of panic setting in.  The game isn't appearing to select within Sky Go!!!</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Anyone else have this issue?</p>

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                                  • SammyC
                                    SammyC last edited by

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="559399" data-time="1455828803">
                                    <div>
                                    <p>Slight bit of panic setting in.  The game isn't appearing to select within Sky Go!!!</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Anyone else have this issue?</p>
                                    </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>You're a day early, it starts tomorrow.</p>

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                                    • NTA
                                      NTA last edited by

                                      Apparently going a bit early is common in men your age, Hooroo<br><br>
                                      🙂

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                                      • Hooroo
                                        Hooroo last edited by

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="559401" data-time="1455828967">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>You're a day early, it starts tomorrow.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p>Right there!! You have just ruined my day!</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>I was certain it started today. Gutted</p>

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                                        • taniwharugby
                                          taniwharugby last edited by

                                          <p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>

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                                          • mariner4life
                                            mariner4life last edited by

                                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="559406" data-time="1455829946">
                                            <div>
                                            <p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
                                            </div>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <p>optimist</p>

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                                            • SammyC
                                              SammyC last edited by

                                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="559406" data-time="1455829946">
                                              <div>
                                              <p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
                                              </div>
                                              </blockquote>
                                              <p> </p>
                                              <p>I really want it to go to the 5th day, otherwise I'll have to go back to work early.</p>

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                                              • MN5
                                                MN5 last edited by

                                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="559406" data-time="1455829946">
                                                <div>
                                                <p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
                                                </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <p> </p>
                                                <p>Yeah I agree, those Aussies showed fight and a bit of talent, I think they can stretch us to a third day at least.</p>

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                                                • MN5
                                                  MN5 last edited by

                                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="559406" data-time="1455829946">
                                                  <div>
                                                  <p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  </blockquote>
                                                  <p> </p>
                                                  <p>Yeah I agree, those Aussies showed fight and a bit of talent, I think they can stretch us to a third day at least.</p>

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                                                  • nzzp
                                                    nzzp last edited by

                                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="559404" data-time="1455829552">
                                                    <div>
                                                    <p>I was certain it started today. Gutted</p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    </blockquote>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                    <p>Me too - was frantically refreshing Cricinfo and not finding it...</p>

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                                                    • KiwiPie
                                                      KiwiPie last edited by

                                                      <p>It's strange but one of the positive things about BMac's captaincy in ODIs is actually a weakness in test cricket.</p>
                                                      <p> </p>
                                                      <p>The revolutionary thing about BMac in ODIs (and part of the reason that NZ made the final in CWC) was his refusal to stick to a formula with his bowlers. Bowling dangerous bowlers until they finished their 10 rather than switch to the weaker bowlers - once the opposition was struggling. See how many times a side has 5 down and the skipper switches to his weaker bowlers to use up their allocation, the batsmen get set and the previously dangerous bowlers get thrashed to all parts when they return.</p>
                                                      <p> </p>
                                                      <p>In tests, BMac has shown a gambler's approach when he needs wickets - example is Stokes in the first test at Lords last year. Kept on trying to buy his wicket because he was going for his shots when the conservative strangle and probe of weaknesses would have yielded better results.</p>

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                                                      • KiwiPie
                                                        KiwiPie last edited by

                                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="559439" data-time="1455838683">
                                                        <div>
                                                        <p>Me too - was frantically refreshing Cricinfo and not finding it...</p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                        <p>I'm sure someone on here was talking about Friday as the start of the next test - as it was in my head as well</p>

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                                                        • MN5
                                                          MN5 last edited by

                                                          <p>Cricinfo has a few bugs at the moment, the player search function in particular. I guess that's the price you pay for sharing a site with a billion indian fanatics.</p>

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                                                          • Bovidae
                                                            Bovidae last edited by

                                                            <p>BMac has confirmed Henry is playing so it's between Craig and Wagner for the last bowling spot.</p>

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                                                            • NTA
                                                              NTA last edited by

                                                              Pattinson in for Siddle

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                                                              • booboo
                                                                booboo last edited by

                                                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="559550" data-time="1455861027"><p>
                                                                Pattinson in for Siddle</p></blockquote>
                                                                Probably makes you stronger ... bastards

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                                                                • NTA
                                                                  NTA last edited by

                                                                  Quicker, maybe

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                                                                  • Bovidae
                                                                    Bovidae last edited by

                                                                    <p>Surprise, surprise, BMac loses his last toss and NZ are batting. </p>

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                                                                    • NTA
                                                                      NTA last edited by

                                                                      <p>Consistency is the key :yes:</p>

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                                                                      • G
                                                                        Gunner last edited by

                                                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="559645" data-time="1455916040"><p>
                                                                        Surprise, surprise, BMac loses his last toss and NZ are batting.</p></blockquote>Just bloody terrific.<br>
                                                                        I'll be very surprised if McCullum hasn't strode to the crease by lunchtime.

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                                                                        • Mokey
                                                                          Mokey last edited by

                                                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gunner" data-cid="559648" data-time="1455917030">
                                                                          <div>
                                                                          <p>Just bloody terrific.<br>
                                                                          I'll be very surprised if McCullum hasn't strode to the crease by lunchtime.</p>
                                                                          </div>
                                                                          </blockquote>
                                                                          <p> And trudged back shortly after?</p>

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                                                                          • Siam
                                                                            Siam last edited by

                                                                            Trivia to distract from Guppy basically being dropped twice in 2 balls...<br><br>
                                                                            Baz is oldest in the team at 34, who is 2nd oldest?

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                                                                            • No Quarter
                                                                              No Quarter last edited by

                                                                              Fark it's doing plenty. The Aus bowling lineup has done well this series but they've had by far the best of the conditions. Southee, Boult and Henry must be incredibly frustrated to not be out there right now.

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                                                                              • Mokey
                                                                                Mokey last edited by

                                                                                <p>Bloody hell, Guptill.</p>

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                                                                                • booboo
                                                                                  booboo last edited by

                                                                                  Glad we won the toss and batted. Looks a flat deck. Ball's not doing much ...

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                                                                                  • booboo
                                                                                    booboo last edited by

                                                                                    Bugger.<br><br>
                                                                                    Guppy put out of our misery

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