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    • Bovidae
      Bovidae last edited by Duluth

      The squads have been named, which excludes all IPL players.

      New Zealand ODI squad: Tom Latham (capt, wk), Doug Bracewell, Michael Bracewell, Mark Chapman, Colin de Grandhomme, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Kyle Jamieson, Henry Nicholls, Ish Sodhi, Ross Taylor, Blair Tickner, Will Young

      New Zealand T20I squad: Tom Latham (capt, wk), Doug Bracewell, Michael Bracewell, Mark Chapman, Dane Cleaver (wk), Colin de Grandhomme, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Scott Kuggeleijn, Ben Sears, Ish Sodhi, Blair Tickner, Will Young

      A couple of well-deserved call-ups for M Bracewell and Cleaver.

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      • Canes4life
        Canes4life @Bovidae last edited by

        @bovidae awesome to see Michael Bracewell get the nod, he has been Mr consistent for Wellington for a long time. Well deserved.

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          Yeahtheboys @Bovidae last edited by

          @bovidae interesting Latham captain of the T20 team which means guaranteed selection. He’s not someone that springs to mind when it comes to T20, maybe just like-for-like for Kane when he comes back

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          • Bovidae
            Bovidae @Yeahtheboys last edited by

            @yeahtheboys Yeah, a strange selection. Latham won't be the wk in the T20 team as Cleaver should fill that role.

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              Yeahtheboys last edited by

              That seems like the type of squad needed to be selected to lose our first game against the Netherlands. Happy cleaver and Bracewell get a call up

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              • Rapido
                Rapido last edited by

                Quite conservative squads, tbh. Taking it seriously, no bolters. Very old teams.

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                • MN5
                  MN5 last edited by MN5

                  Quite a few sons/nephews of Black Caps in there.

                  Speaking of which can anyone tell my why Doug Bracewell keeps getting selected ?

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                    Gunner @Bovidae last edited by Gunner

                    @bovidae said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                    The squads have been named, which excludes all IPL players.

                    New Zealand ODI squad: Tom Latham (capt, wk), Doug Bracewell, Michael Bracewell, Mark Chapman, Colin de Grandhomme, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Kyle Jamieson, Henry Nicholls, Ish Sodhi, Ross Taylor, Blair Tickner, Will Young

                    New Zealand T20I squad: Tom Latham (capt, wk), Doug Bracewell, Michael Bracewell, Mark Chapman, Dane Cleaver (wk), Colin de Grandhomme, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Scott Kuggeleijn, Ben Sears, Ish Sodhi, Blair Tickner, Will Young

                    A couple of well-deserved call-ups for M Bracewell and Cleaver.

                    So very quickly off the top of my head, we are missing the following names from those squads;

                    Kane
                    Conway
                    Phillips
                    Mitchell
                    Siefert (probably dropped more than rested)
                    Southee
                    Boult
                    Santner
                    Blundell
                    Ferguson

                    There’s probably other obvious ones I’m missing, so these are very much b squads, to be expected against The Netherlands I suppose.
                    Think they’ve missed a trick by not selecting a couple more younger players to see how they go, as someone else mentioned we have very old looking teams

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                    • Bovidae
                      Bovidae @Gunner last edited by

                      @gunner 12 players are missing due to the IPL according to the media release.

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                        Gunner @Bovidae last edited by

                        @bovidae said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                        @gunner 12 players are missing due to the IPL according to the media release.

                        Ahhh, Roger.

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                        • booboo
                          booboo @MN5 last edited by

                          @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                          Quite a few sons/nephews of Black Caps in there.

                          Speaking of which can anyone tell my why Doug Bracewell keeps getting selected ?

                          Latham, Bracewell, Bracewell, Kuggers

                          4?

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                          • rotated
                            rotated last edited by

                            They let the IPL guys go early which is understandable on one level but Boult now has been unavailable for four of the last six tests and three ODIs. So basically the entire home summer.

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                            • shark
                              shark last edited by

                              Is Adam Milne heading to the IPL?

                              I would have thought Cam Fletcher was a better prospect than Cleaver.

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                              • Daffy Jaffy
                                Daffy Jaffy last edited by Daffy Jaffy

                                The NZ eleven named to play in the 3 warm up fixtures (starting today) has Jock McKenzie from Auckland. Is that the same young guy that has been training with the Blues as WTG First five?

                                The New Zealand XI face Netherlands behind closed doors in two one-day matches at Napier’s McLean Park on March 17 and 19 followed by a one-off T20 on March 21 – with all three matches live-streamed and scored at nzc.nz.
                                New Zealand XI

                                Michael Bracewell (c) (Wellington)

                                Matt Bacon (Otago)

                                Matt Boyle (Canterbury)

                                Josh Clarkson (CD)

                                Dane Cleaver (wk) (CD)

                                James Hartshorn (Wellington)

                                Mitch Hay (Canterbury)

                                Jayden Lennox (CD)

                                Angus McKenzie (Otago)

                                Jock McKenzie (Auckland)

                                Tim Pringle (ND)

                                Ben Sears (Wellington)

                                Jesse Tashkoff (Wellington) – game 1

                                Ross Taylor (CD) - games 2 and 3

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                                • JK
                                  JK last edited by JK

                                  Should be an interesting series but cant say I'm too excited by our squads.

                                  Netherlands team isn't horrible and has come a long way in recent times. A few local lads in there incl me mate Max Odowd who has a pretty awesome stat of something like 50 odd international appearances without ever having a duck. Wonder if he can make it through the series.

                                  edit - this stat https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/284086.html
                                  A long way ahead of any other player too

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                                  • nzzp
                                    nzzp @JK last edited by

                                    @jk said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                    Should be an interesting series but cant say I'm too by our squads.

                                    Netherlands team isn't horrible and has come a long way in recent times. A few local lads in there incl me mate Max Odowd who has a pretty awesome stat of something like 50 odd international appearances without ever having a duck. Wonder if he can make it through the series.

                                    edit - this stat https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/284086.html
                                    A long way ahead of any other player too

                                    Fun fact - I went to see the Netherlands play Scotland in Amsterdam. Was great fun - small crowd, lovely ground by the canals (complete with nets and a looooong handled ball collection device), dutch beer, cheese, and a cordoned off ICC area with no phones to try and avoid bookmakers.

                                    Sat under a tree, on chairs provided, drank beer, ate cheese, shot the breeze and had a lovely day out. Scotland got up and won with 7 wickets and about 2 overs left.

                                    They're a fair short form team, but our teop team we should win comfortably. Missing the stars though, who knows. Can't say I'm super excited

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                                    • JK
                                      JK @nzzp last edited by

                                      @nzzp that game in Amsterdam sounds a great day out

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                                        Gunner @nzzp last edited by

                                        @nzzp said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:
                                        Can't say I'm super excited

                                        I’m the same, but I’m grateful it’s someone other than Bangladesh. Though I’m not expecting any close games, a new opposition always makes it an interesting watch for me.

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                                        • Stargazer
                                          Stargazer last edited by

                                          Livestream:

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                                          • Higgins
                                            Higgins @Stargazer last edited by

                                            @stargazer As I am currently in Napier I am gutted that no spectators are allowed into McLean Park. Shame they could not play it over on Nelson Park where it would be impossible to keep interested spectators out. One would have thought they would be encouraging any spectators remotely interested in cricket to turn up and watch in these days of almost zero attendances at local cricket. And yes I am a fairly regular attender at Plunket Shield matches at the Basin Reserve, along with about a dozen or 20 other viewers on a good day.

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                                            • Stargazer
                                              Stargazer @Higgins last edited by

                                              @higgins Yeah, there were only expensive hospitality packages available.

                                              It's strange. Last year, when there were also crowd restrictions, they still let in plenty of spectators during our NPC games. Maybe that was the HBRU's work, I don't know. The same crowd restrictions apply now (with vaccine pass), but it seems they (NZ Cricket?) can't be bothered.

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                                              • Higgins
                                                Higgins @Stargazer last edited by Higgins

                                                @stargazer Not for the BoP game they didn't, although it was noted there was a more than a fair share of away supporters present to see their team's demise.

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                                                • JK
                                                  JK last edited by

                                                  280/8 - decent total after not the best start. Bracewell 127 no

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                                                  • MN5
                                                    MN5 last edited by

                                                    Is this actually the Black Caps or a “NZ XI”

                                                    Nothing about this on cricinfo at all.

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                                                    • Canes4life
                                                      Canes4life @MN5 last edited by

                                                      @mn5 it's an NZ A side.

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                                                      • JK
                                                        JK @MN5 last edited by

                                                        @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                        Is this actually the Black Caps or a “NZ XI”

                                                        Nothing about this on cricinfo at all.

                                                        can follow on https://scoring.nzc.nz/#m8fcb1187-2f16-4e39-b95e-21bd369a238e for scorecard or youtube

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                                                        • MN5
                                                          MN5 @Canes4life last edited by

                                                          @canes4life said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                          @mn5 it's an NZ A side.

                                                          Ah that explains that.

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                                                          • JK
                                                            JK last edited by JK

                                                            Covers on and hoodies up so might be raining a bit

                                                            edit - covers off 3.25 - good to go

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                                                            • Rapido
                                                              Rapido @JK last edited by

                                                              @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                              Is this actually the Black Caps or a “NZ XI”

                                                              Nothing about this on cricinfo at all.

                                                              It's an NZ XI. No NZ A.

                                                              Not even a List A match status (although it should be, if it isn't going to be 12-a-side), let alone an ODI.

                                                              Basically a collection of youngsters who aren't in the provincial teams for plunket shield, plus some of the squad who will play the lone T20I; Cleaver, Sears (although he's 12th man today). Plus M Bracewell to captain them

                                                              Although Josh Clarkson would be NZ A level in this format.

                                                              https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/taylor-headlines-nz-xi-to-face-netherlands-in-napier-bj-watling-on-coaching-staff

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                                                              • get stuffed
                                                                get stuffed Banned @Canes4life last edited by

                                                                @canes4life said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                                @bovidae awesome to see Michael Bracewell get the nod, he has been Mr consistent for Wellington for a long time. Well deserved.

                                                                Yeah, really glad he's getting a crack, very powerful striker of the ball.

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                                                                • Higgins
                                                                  Higgins last edited by Higgins

                                                                  The traditional Hawkes Bay drought breaking rain (albeit only light drizzle at this stage) has arrived so highly unlikely today's T20 match between the Dutchies and the NZ XI will take place. Wouldn't be surprised if the teams even bother going to the ground let alone tossing the coin. Looks like the Cricket HB 500 Championships will be taking place!

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                                                                  • shark
                                                                    shark last edited by

                                                                    How's it looking for tonight?

                                                                    I like that we're donning the teal and black for this game (maybe the ODIs as well?) Aside from anything else it's a clash of two of the more recognisable international colour schemes.

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                                                                    • Rapido
                                                                      Rapido last edited by

                                                                      No game in Napier will happen. Lucky its only 1. That low ain't moving.

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                                                                      • KiwiMurph
                                                                        KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                        What's the saying? If you want to break a drought in Napier schedule a cricket match?

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                                                                        • Number 10
                                                                          Number 10 @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                          @kiwimurph

                                                                          Can confirm you won’t get a game of cricket here tonight, even from this far out.

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                                                                          • shark
                                                                            shark last edited by

                                                                            Fucking Napier and cricket. If it's not raining, it's a sun strike delay. The only thing that vanue has been good for historically is stat-padding for batsmen. In fact if the region didn't produce some stonking chardonnay it could just fuck right off into Hawkes Bay and no-one would miss it.

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                                                                            • mariner4life
                                                                              mariner4life @shark last edited by

                                                                              @shark said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                                              Fucking Napier and cricket. If it's not raining, it's a sun strike delay. The only thing that vanue has been good for historically is stat-padding for batsmen. In fact if the region didn't produce some stonking chardonnay it could just fuck right off into Hawkes Bay and no-one would miss it.

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                                                                              • MN5
                                                                                MN5 @shark last edited by

                                                                                @shark said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                                                Fucking Napier and cricket. If it's not raining, it's a sun strike delay. The only thing that vanue has been good for historically is stat-padding for batsmen. In fact if the region didn't produce some stonking chardonnay it could just fuck right off into Hawkes Bay and no-one would miss it.

                                                                                Wow, I’m glad @Nepia isn’t a cricket fan. A post like this would break his heart.

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                                                                                • Nepia
                                                                                  Nepia @MN5 last edited by

                                                                                  @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                                                  @shark said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                                                  Fucking Napier and cricket. If it's not raining, it's a sun strike delay. The only thing that vanue has been good for historically is stat-padding for batsmen. In fact if the region didn't produce some stonking chardonnay it could just fuck right off into Hawkes Bay and no-one would miss it.

                                                                                  Wow, I’m glad @Nepia isn’t a cricket fan. A post like this would break his heart.

                                                                                  Jesus, that was confusing, seeing a notification for a cricket thread.

                                                                                  Anyway, I like a good @shark hissy fit, his Chiefs ones back in the day were epic and he's been a bit quiet of late.

                                                                                  Also, I have to fact check him, the bay we would fuck right off into is called Hawke Bay, the province Hawkes Bay.

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                                                                                  • mariner4life
                                                                                    mariner4life @Nepia last edited by

                                                                                    @nepia said in Black Caps vs Netherlands:

                                                                                    the bay we would fuck right off into is called Hawke Bay, the province Hawkes Bay

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