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    • Duluth
      Duluth last edited by

      Any updates on the Blues injuries?

      So Nock will probably be out? Is Christie back?

      I don't think they said why Sullivan wasn't available last weekend? His kicking game at fullback would be useful

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      • nzzp
        nzzp last edited by

        Not a lot of downside for me in this game. The big win was Saturday against the Chiefs. Now there is daylight between the Crusaders/Blues and the rest of the NZ sides.

        The only thing in this comp is to get to the final. Ideally hosting it, but get to teh final must be the drive. After that, it's on. So a win would be nice, but more important is winning all the Australian games and building into the finals series.

        Blues massive underdogs with all the injuries

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        • Chris
          Chris @nzzp last edited by

          @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

          Not a lot of downside for me in this game. The big win was Saturday against the Chiefs. Now there is daylight between the Crusaders/Blues and the rest of the NZ sides.

          The only thing in this comp is to get to the final. Ideally hosting it, but get to teh final must be the drive. After that, it's on. So a win would be nice, but more important is winning all the Australian games and building into the finals series.

          Blues massive underdogs with all the injuries

          Not sure about underdogs.Nice try though.
          We have 3 locks now out,2 hookers from the original squad out.
          Still won't have Goodhue yet.
          Matera and Jager injured not sure if they are back this week though.

          Scamble on for underdog status.

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          • Bovidae
            Bovidae last edited by

            A 14-game losing streak for the Blues. Every other NZ team has beaten the Crusaders at least twice during that period.

            This week is as good as any to break that with the momentum behind them.

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            • KiwiMurph
              KiwiMurph @Chris last edited by

              @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

              Not sure about underdogs.Nice try though.

              Blues haven't won in Christchurch since 2004. Haven't beaten Crusaders at all since 2014.

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              • Chris
                Chris @KiwiMurph last edited by Chris

                @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                Not sure about underdogs.Nice try though.

                Blues haven't won in Christchurch since 2004. Haven't beaten Crusaders at all since 2014.

                Oh really I didn't know that.
                Ireland had never beaten the AB's until recently,they have now twice.

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                • KiwiMurph
                  KiwiMurph @Chris last edited by

                  @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                  @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                  @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                  Not sure about underdogs.Nice try though.

                  Blues haven't won in Christchurch since 2004. Haven't beaten Crusaders at all since 2014.

                  Oh really I didn't know that.
                  Ireland had never beaten the AB's until recently,they have now twice.

                  True. But going into Chicago Ireland would have been underdogs 😉

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                  • nzzp
                    nzzp @KiwiMurph last edited by

                    @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                    @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                    @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                    @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                    Not sure about underdogs.Nice try though.

                    Blues haven't won in Christchurch since 2004. Haven't beaten Crusaders at all since 2014.

                    Oh really I didn't know that.
                    Ireland had never beaten the AB's until recently,they have now twice.

                    True. But going into Chicago Ireland would have been underdogs 😉

                    we took them so easily we played Kaino at lock. Seemed a reasonable assumption at the time 🙂

                    Back to back to back champions Crusaders trying to claim underdog status ... quality effort lads

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                    • Chris
                      Chris @KiwiMurph last edited by

                      @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                      @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                      @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                      @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                      Not sure about underdogs.Nice try though.

                      Blues haven't won in Christchurch since 2004. Haven't beaten Crusaders at all since 2014.

                      Oh really I didn't know that.
                      Ireland had never beaten the AB's until recently,they have now twice.

                      True. But going into Chicago Ireland would have been underdogs 😉

                      But you now have a 100 + Plus Game Crusaders coaching you,Cantabs like Romano and Darry in the team you must be favourites.

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                      • Chris
                        Chris @nzzp last edited by

                        @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        Not sure about underdogs.Nice try though.

                        Blues haven't won in Christchurch since 2004. Haven't beaten Crusaders at all since 2014.

                        Oh really I didn't know that.
                        Ireland had never beaten the AB's until recently,they have now twice.

                        True. But going into Chicago Ireland would have been underdogs 😉

                        we took them so easily we played Kaino at lock. Seemed a reasonable assumption at the time 🙂

                        Back to back to back champions Crusaders trying to claim underdog status ... quality effort lads

                        Hang on didn't you win the last title 🤨

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                        • KiwiMurph
                          KiwiMurph last edited by

                          Be ironic if Simon Hickey is involved in this game - he was at 10 the last time Blues beat Crusaders.

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                            nzzp @Chris last edited by

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                            • Duluth
                              Duluth @KiwiMurph last edited by

                              @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Blues:

                              Be ironic if Simon Hickey is involved in this game - he was at 10 the last time Blues beat Crusaders.

                              Sam Whitelock the only player from that match that's still with the same squad

                              Nepo & Romano have moved to the Blues

                              Hickey & Hall moved to the Crusaders

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                                  george33 last edited by

                                  @duluth Sullivan had slight ankle injury will b available and rts think he will b available,as for Christie he looks ok and akira?,and karl tuinakafe should at least b bench that's what I herd just couple hours ago,nothing about Nock

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                                  • kiwi_expat
                                    kiwi_expat @nzzp last edited by kiwi_expat

                                    @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                    Not a lot of downside for me in this game. The big win was Saturday against the Chiefs. Now there is daylight between the Crusaders/Blues and the rest of the NZ sides.

                                    The only thing in this comp is to get to the final. Ideally hosting it, but get to teh final must be the drive. After that, it's on. So a win would be nice, but more important is winning all the Australian games and building into the finals series.

                                    Blues massive underdogs with all the injuries

                                    Crusaders are also without Matera, Goodhue, Whitelock, Strange, Dunshea, McAlister & Klein.

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                                    • nzzp
                                      nzzp @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                      @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                      @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                      Not a lot of downside for me in this game. The big win was Saturday against the Chiefs. Now there is daylight between the Crusaders/Blues and the rest of the NZ sides.

                                      The only thing in this comp is to get to the final. Ideally hosting it, but get to teh final must be the drive. After that, it's on. So a win would be nice, but more important is winning all the Australian games and building into the finals series.

                                      Blues massive underdogs with all the injuries

                                      Crusaders are also without Matera, Goodhue, Whitelock, Strange, Dunshea, McAlister & Klein.

                                      good luck! We're completely underdone; haven't had a preseason, didn't play NPC last year, and so ravaged with injuries it's amazing we can fill the coaches box, let alone field a 23.

                                      Tongue slightly in cheek, though, it'll be a crackign top of the table clash. Can't wait.

                                      Last year after the Crusaders got up, they drew with the Canes and then dropped the game after that. Peaked, but it took its toll I reckon.

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                                      • Tim
                                        Tim last edited by

                                        Largely unchanged team to be expected, aside from halfbacks.

                                        Might see Lam start, with Tu'inukuafe on the bench?

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                                        • Kirwan
                                          Kirwan @nzzp last edited by

                                          @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          Not a lot of downside for me in this game. The big win was Saturday against the Chiefs. Now there is daylight between the Crusaders/Blues and the rest of the NZ sides.

                                          The only thing in this comp is to get to the final. Ideally hosting it, but get to teh final must be the drive. After that, it's on. So a win would be nice, but more important is winning all the Australian games and building into the finals series.

                                          Blues massive underdogs with all the injuries

                                          Crusaders are also without Matera, Goodhue, Whitelock, Strange, Dunshea, McAlister & Klein.

                                          good luck! We're completely underdone; haven't had a preseason, didn't play NPC last year, and so ravaged with injuries it's amazing we can fill the coaches box, let alone field a 23.

                                          Tongue slightly in cheek, though, it'll be a crackign top of the table clash. Can't wait.

                                          Last year after the Crusaders got up, they drew with the Canes and then dropped the game after that. Peaked, but it took its toll I reckon.

                                          And haven't won in Christchurch since the 20th century. Crusaders to lose 🙂

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                                          • Duluth
                                            Duluth @Tim last edited by

                                            @tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                            Largely unchanged team to be expected, aside from halfbacks.

                                            Might see Lam start, with Tu'inukuafe on the bench?

                                            @Nogusta was hinting that Evans would be involved. Would be a massive call to start him so I assume he'll be on the bench

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                                              • KiwiMurph
                                                KiwiMurph @Duluth last edited by

                                                @duluth said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                @tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                Largely unchanged team to be expected, aside from halfbacks.

                                                Might see Lam start, with Tu'inukuafe on the bench?

                                                @Nogusta was hinting that Evans would be involved. Would be a massive call to start him so I assume he'll be on the bench

                                                I wonder if that means they hold RTS for one more week as it would be a big call to start RTS in this game.

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                                                • Stargazer
                                                  Stargazer @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                  @kiwimurph Probably the same with Goodhue for the Crusaders?

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                                                  • Machpants
                                                    Machpants @Stargazer last edited by

                                                    @stargazer said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                    @kiwimurph Probably the same with Goodhue for the Crusaders?

                                                    If either start it will be a positive for the other team, goodhue hasn't played in years, RTS is still very new. The game should be thumping intense, at least I hope so

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                                                    • nzzp
                                                      nzzp @Machpants last edited by

                                                      @machpants I reckon the win against the Chiefs will take it's toll. Crusaders by a thowwwsand

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                                                        george33 @nzzp last edited by

                                                        @nzzp go back to sleep

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                                                        • nzzp
                                                          nzzp @george33 last edited by

                                                          @george33 said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                          @nzzp go back to sleep

                                                          so what's your pick then?

                                                          If the Blues play to tehir potential, they should win. Haven't been able to say that for some time, feels good. BUT - I'm not confident of our ability to back up two weeks in a row... hence my comment above. If we do, happy days, but if we don't then it's a flat performance and another loss down south.

                                                          The last time we were down there we went out to a really solid lead, and Mo'unga absolutely arced up and destroyed us in the last quarter. It was ridiculous. But -- we were dominant up to that point. Reassert that, and don't choke, and we're on ... going to be an absolute cracker.I hope

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                                                          • gt12
                                                            gt12 last edited by

                                                            I feel that the Saders are there for the taking this year, but it won’t be this week.

                                                            My feeling is that after that performance against the chiefs, the Blues will get a negative rebound.

                                                            I hope that doesn’t happen, but I cant see them beating the Saders.

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                                                            • KiwiMurph
                                                              KiwiMurph @gt12 last edited by

                                                              @gt12 yeah I was hoping Blues would be able to fly under the radar a little bit going into this clash but last weekend put paid to that.

                                                              Given Crusaders haven't exactly been on fire lately I can see Razor gearing them up for a huge performance.

                                                              Blues will have to clear the mental hurdle of beating the Crusaders which i'm not sure they are quite up to yet (especially in Christchurch).

                                                              For Blues to win they'll have to avoid penalties (in general play and at scrum time) that lead to lineout drive opportunities and they'll have to be very tidy under the high ball.

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                                                              • Kirwan
                                                                Kirwan @nzzp last edited by

                                                                @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                @machpants I reckon the win against the Chiefs will take it's toll. Crusaders by a thowwwsand

                                                                And 3 games in 8 days followed by an extremely physical game, hopefully the squad refreshes fast.

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                                                                • Bovidae
                                                                  Bovidae last edited by

                                                                  It will be interesting to see which ref is chosen for this game. O'Keeffe would be the likely person as it can't be Williams or Pickerill (good for everyone). Both teams were very cynical in defending near their goal line in the weekend so we could see more yellow cards.

                                                                  If the Blues forwards play with the same ferocity as they did against the Chiefs then game on. The scrum battle will be intriguing.

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                                                                  • Kirwan
                                                                    Kirwan @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                    @bovidae said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                    It will be interesting to see which ref is chosen for this game. O'Keeffe would be the likely person as it can't be Williams or Pickerill (good for everyone). Both teams were very cynical in defending near their goal line in the weekend so we could see more yellow cards.

                                                                    If the Blues forwards play with the same ferocity as they did against the Chiefs then game on. The scrum battle will be intriguing.

                                                                    If it’s o’Thief then the crusaders have already won.

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                                                                    • Bovidae
                                                                      Bovidae @Kirwan last edited by

                                                                      @kirwan O'Keeffe, Fraser or Doleman are the choices, and one of the latter two could be the ref tomorrow night.

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                                                                      • kiwi_expat
                                                                        kiwi_expat last edited by kiwi_expat

                                                                        Blues record vs Crusaders (Leon 2019-2021): 24-22, 19–11, 25-8, 43-26, 29-6.

                                                                        Good chance of breaking the hoodoo this Friday.

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                                                                        • Bones
                                                                          Bones @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                                                          @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                          Blues record vs Crusaders (Leon 2019-2021): 24-22, 19–11, 25-8, 43-26, 29-6.

                                                                          Good chance of breaking the hoodoo this Friday.

                                                                          Good point, well raised. Blues haven't beaten the Crusaders since they've had a Crusader coach. Tend to struggle against the Chiefs too...

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                                                                          • kiwi_expat
                                                                            kiwi_expat @Bones last edited by kiwi_expat

                                                                            @bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                            @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                            Blues record vs Crusaders (Leon 2019-2021): 24-22, 19–11, 25-8, 43-26, 29-6.

                                                                            Good chance of breaking the hoodoo this Friday.

                                                                            Good point, well raised. Blues haven't beaten the Crusaders since they've had a Crusader coach. Tend to struggle against the Chiefs too...

                                                                            Hurricanes & Chiefs definitely the bogey teams during Razor's time, account for 85% of his defeats as coach.

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                                                                            • booboo
                                                                              booboo @Chris last edited by

                                                                              @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:.

                                                                              Scamble

                                                                              Upvote for new word

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                                                                              • booboo
                                                                                booboo @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                                                                @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                Not a lot of downside for me in this game. The big win was Saturday against the Chiefs. Now there is daylight between the Crusaders/Blues and the rest of the NZ sides.

                                                                                The only thing in this comp is to get to the final. Ideally hosting it, but get to teh final must be the drive. After that, it's on. So a win would be nice, but more important is winning all the Australian games and building into the finals series.

                                                                                Blues massive underdogs with all the s

                                                                                Crusaders are also without Matera, Goodhue, Whitelock, Strange, Dunshea, McAlister & Klein.

                                                                                Apart from Whitelock (And Goodhue but he hardly counts) who of them is in the top XXIII?

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                                                                                • Chris
                                                                                  Chris @booboo last edited by

                                                                                  @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                  @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                  @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                  Not a lot of downside for me in this game. The big win was Saturday against the Chiefs. Now there is daylight between the Crusaders/Blues and the rest of the NZ sides.

                                                                                  The only thing in this comp is to get to the final. Ideally hosting it, but get to teh final must be the drive. After that, it's on. So a win would be nice, but more important is winning all the Australian games and building into the finals series.

                                                                                  Blues massive underdogs with all the s

                                                                                  Crusaders are also without Matera, Goodhue, Whitelock, Strange, Dunshea, McAlister & Klein.

                                                                                  Apart from Whitelock (And Goodhue but he hardly counts) who of them is in the top XXIII?

                                                                                  Matera ,Strange,Whitelock,McAlister. and Goodhue,Would all be in the top 23.

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                                                                                  • booboo
                                                                                    booboo @Chris last edited by

                                                                                    @chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                    @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                    @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                    @nzzp said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                                                                    Not a lot of downside for me in this game. The big win was Saturday against the Chiefs. Now there is daylight between the Crusaders/Blues and the rest of the NZ sides.

                                                                                    The only thing in this comp is to get to the final. Ideally hosting it, but get to teh final must be the drive. After that, it's on. So a win would be nice, but more important is winning all the Australian games and building into the finals series.

                                                                                    Blues massive underdogs with all the s

                                                                                    Crusaders are also without Matera, Goodhue, Whitelock, Strange, Dunshea, McAlister & Klein.

                                                                                    Apart from Whitelock (And Goodhue but he hardly counts) who of them is in the top XXIII?

                                                                                    Matera ,Strange,Whitelock,McAlister. and Goodhue,Would all be in the top 23.

                                                                                    Will give you that, although I don't rate Strange at all.

                                                                                    Given you can't really count Goodhue, (as much as Id like to: huge fanboi) that's a whole one starter.

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