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    • Tim
      Tim last edited by Duluth

      For all the discussion of old squads.

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      • MN5
        MN5 @canefan last edited by

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

        @canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.

        Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games

        Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department

        Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.

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        • canefan
          canefan @MN5 last edited by

          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:

          @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

          @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

          @canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.

          Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games

          Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department

          Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.

          That won't be happening this time

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          • MN5
            MN5 @canefan last edited by

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

            @mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

            @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

            @canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.

            Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games

            Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department

            Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.

            That won't be happening this time

            Exactly. Every rival coach will have been studying every single minute of RTS and how he has gone at Super Rugby so far.

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            • dogmeat
              dogmeat @MN5 last edited by

              @mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

              @canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.

              Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games

              Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department

              Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.

              If you mean Kirwan then I agree his value to the 95 RWC side as a poorly performing utility back for the Auckland Warriors has been long overlooked.

              @canefan We definitely weren't favourites - Oz and SA (as hosts) and France were considered the best chances. Then us.

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              • MN5
                MN5 @dogmeat last edited by

                @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                @mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                @canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.

                Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games

                Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department

                Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.

                If you mean Kirwan then I agree his value to the 95 RWC side as a poorly performing utility back for the Auckland Warriors has been long overlooked.

                @canefan We definitely weren't favourites - Oz and SA (as hosts) and France were considered the best chances. Then us.

                Na the guy who played in the seven jersey after Michael Jones and before Richie McCaw.

                Of course if I were selector another capped AB called JK would be that guy who scored the winner for the saders in 98.

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                • dogmeat
                  dogmeat @MN5 last edited by

                  @mn5 doh The anti nuclear campaigner My bad.

                  Never heard him called JK

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                  • MN5
                    MN5 @dogmeat last edited by

                    @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @mn5 doh The anti nuclear campaigner My bad.

                    Never heard him called JK

                    I remember some promo on the news saying there is a new JK in the ABs. Crikey, 27 years ago !

                    Of course I can’t remember specific moments in AB games as recently as last year so that could be the alzheimers creeping in rapidly.

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                    • canefan
                      canefan last edited by

                      @mn5 said in Old AB teams discussion:

                      @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.

                      Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games

                      Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department

                      Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.

                      If you mean Kirwan then I agree his value to the 95 RWC side as a poorly performing utility back for the Auckland Warriors has been long overlooked.

                      @canefan We definitely weren't favourites - Oz and SA (as hosts) and France were considered the best chances. Then us.

                      Na the guy who played in the seven jersey after Michael Jones and before Richie McCaw.

                      Of course if I were selector another capped AB called JK would be that guy who scored the winner for the saders in 98.

                      James Kerr

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                      • KiwiMurph
                        KiwiMurph last edited by

                        1995 was a really weird year rugby calendar wise for the ABs compared to now.

                        One test vs Canada in April

                        Then RWC in May/June (6 tests)

                        Then 2 test Bledisloe in July

                        Then 3 test tour of Italy France in October/November (plus 5 non-test tour games).

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                        • Nepia
                          Nepia @dogmeat last edited by

                          @dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:

                          a poorly performing utility back for the Auckland Warriors

                          That's some revisionist history. He was actually a pretty good performing wing for the Warriors, especially for an old man.

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                          • booboo
                            booboo @dogmeat last edited by

                            @dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:

                            @mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.

                            Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games

                            Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department

                            Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.

                            If you mean Kirwan then I agree his value to the 95 RWC side as a poorly performing utility back for the Auckland Warriors has been long overlooked.

                            @canefan We definitely weren't favourites - Oz and SA (as hosts) and France were considered the best chances. Then us.

                            And England.

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                            • dogmeat
                              dogmeat @Nepia last edited by

                              @nepia He was clearly signed for the publicity. He did better in 96 but that first year my recollection is he was a bit losyt. Looked it up he had 16 games for 3 tries and is described as a modest performer

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                              • Dan54
                                Dan54 @MN5 last edited by

                                @mn5 said in Old AB teams discussion:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.

                                Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games

                                Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department

                                Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.

                                That won't be happening this time

                                Exactly. Every rival coach will have been studying every single minute of RTS and how he has gone at Super Rugby so far.

                                Hell that won't take long, as he has only played 120 minutes.

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                                • taniwharugby
                                  taniwharugby last edited by

                                  Can't really find a better thread to put this in, but Izzy Dagg tells a great story.

                                  GOOD YARNS | Israel Dagg breaks down his 2010 match winner in South...

                                  GOOD YARNS | Israel Dagg breaks down his 2010 match winner in South...

                                  536K views, 9.4K likes, 1.5K loves, 1K comments, 882 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from All Blacks: Absolute gold from Izzy 😂 Israel Dagg breaks down his 2010 match winner in South Africa.

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                                  • gt12
                                    gt12 @taniwharugby last edited by

                                    @taniwharugby said in Old AB teams discussion:

                                    Can't really find a better thread to put this in, but Izzy Dagg tells a great story.

                                    GOOD YARNS | Israel Dagg breaks down his 2010 match winner in South...

                                    GOOD YARNS | Israel Dagg breaks down his 2010 match winner in South...

                                    536K views, 9.4K likes, 1.5K loves, 1K comments, 882 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from All Blacks: Absolute gold from Izzy 😂 Israel Dagg breaks down his 2010 match winner in South Africa.

                                    Just watched that on FB and came here looking for a place to post it. Love the CJ part at the end.

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                                    • ACT Crusader
                                      ACT Crusader @dogmeat last edited by

                                      @dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:

                                      @nepia He was clearly signed for the publicity. He did better in 96 but that first year my recollection is he was a bit losyt. Looked it up he had 16 games for 3 tries and is described as a modest performer

                                      Plenty were asking the question after 95 if it was just a PR stunt by the Warriors, because he wasn’t great shakes at all.

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                                      • ACT Crusader
                                        ACT Crusader @taniwharugby last edited by

                                        @taniwharugby HE’S GOT DAGG!

                                        Those close test matches (and there were plenty of them back then) didn’t do the heart any great favours.

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                                        • Machpants
                                          Machpants last edited by

                                          I'll never forget that game, Smit getting a 100th test silver boot

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