Old AB teams discussion
-
@mn5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2022:
@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:
@canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.
Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games
Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department
Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.
If you mean Kirwan then I agree his value to the 95 RWC side as a poorly performing utility back for the Auckland Warriors has been long overlooked.
@canefan We definitely weren't favourites - Oz and SA (as hosts) and France were considered the best chances. Then us.
Na the guy who played in the seven jersey after Michael Jones and before Richie McCaw.
Of course if I were selector another capped AB called JK would be that guy who scored the winner for the saders in 98.
James Kerr
-
-
-
@dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2022:
@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:
@canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.
Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games
Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department
Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.
If you mean Kirwan then I agree his value to the 95 RWC side as a poorly performing utility back for the Auckland Warriors has been long overlooked.
@canefan We definitely weren't favourites - Oz and SA (as hosts) and France were considered the best chances. Then us.
And England.
-
-
@mn5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2022:
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2022:
@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2022:
@canefan 95 was nothing like the situation now. We were inconsistent but had beaten the Boks and Lions in the preceding two seasons.
Fozzie's team beat those they should and lose the other games
Yeah my analogy isn't perfect. My recollection was that Laurie only settled on his top lineup just before the tourney, I don't remember us being mentioned as favourites. Right now we look at sea in every department
Some surprise Superstars called Jonah, Oz, JK and Merhts helped too it has to be said.
That won't be happening this time
Exactly. Every rival coach will have been studying every single minute of RTS and how he has gone at Super Rugby so far.
Hell that won't take long, as he has only played 120 minutes.
-
Can't really find a better thread to put this in, but Izzy Dagg tells a great story.
-
@taniwharugby said in Old AB teams discussion:
Can't really find a better thread to put this in, but Izzy Dagg tells a great story.
Just watched that on FB and came here looking for a place to post it. Love the CJ part at the end.
-
@dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:
@nepia He was clearly signed for the publicity. He did better in 96 but that first year my recollection is he was a bit losyt. Looked it up he had 16 games for 3 tries and is described as a modest performer
Plenty were asking the question after 95 if it was just a PR stunt by the Warriors, because he wasn’t great shakes at all.
-
@taniwharugby HE’S GOT DAGG!
Those close test matches (and there were plenty of them back then) didn’t do the heart any great favours.
-
Not specifically ABs but some old time ABs in there (sorry don’t know how to post Facebook things)
-
@ACT-Crusader upvote for Brown at 3.
But Bunce at 12? Wasn't he a centre?
-
@KiwiMurph Topically heard the first half of this while driving this afternoon.
NZ Sporting History: The 1995 RWC Final in South Africa
This week in NZ Sporting history we go back to 1995 when a 36 strong All Black team is in South Africa for the World Cup. It was the first major sporting event in the country since the end of apartheid. Nelson Mandela was president. But things didn't goes as planned for planned for the All Blacks...
Didn't get as far as Suzygate before I reached my destination, but according to Lozza he had a cunning plan all along
-
@nzzp said in Old AB teams discussion:
@ACT-Crusader upvote for Brown at 3.
But Bunce at 12? Wasn't he a centre?
Bunce very first test match for the ABs was at 2nd 5, but all of his other ones were at centre.
-
@ACT-Crusader said in Old AB teams discussion:
@nzzp said in Old AB teams discussion:
@ACT-Crusader upvote for Brown at 3.
But Bunce at 12? Wasn't he a centre?
Bunce very first test match for the ABs was at 2nd 5, but all of his other ones were at centre.
Good old Laurie thinking Little was a centre. No wonder they lost to the World XV.
-
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones The win % says more than the total number of wins.
He's no Laurie Mains, but everyone's gotta have goals.
John Mitchell done so dirty by that graphic
Foster seems like a guy a little out of his depth, Mitchell has always seemed like a KHunt. So not done dirty at all in my book.
At least Foster's players genuinely seem to be fond of him. Not sure any of Mitch's players would lay on a grenade for him. I dislike the man for clear reason. His only redeeming feature is that he has a son that plays cricket for NZ and does it very well
He gave some pretty clear reasons for why he dropped Cullen but by Christ they went down like a shit sandwich.
I guess that comes down to was a case of was a 80% Cullen as good as 100% MacDonald/Blair ?
……so many on here have had a go at Foster for NOT dropping guys that are that tiny bit past it so it kinda proves you can’t win as an AB coach no matter what you do.
-
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones The win % says more than the total number of wins.
He's no Laurie Mains, but everyone's gotta have goals.
John Mitchell done so dirty by that graphic
Foster seems like a guy a little out of his depth, Mitchell has always seemed like a KHunt. So not done dirty at all in my book.
At least Foster's players genuinely seem to be fond of him. Not sure any of Mitch's players would lay on a grenade for him. I dislike the man for clear reason. His only redeeming feature is that he has a son that plays cricket for NZ and does it very well
He gave some pretty clear reasons for why he dropped Cullen but by Christ they went down like a shit sandwich.
I guess that comes down to was a case of was a 80% Cullen as good as 100% MacDonald/Blair ?
……so many on here have had a go at Foster for NOT dropping guys that are that tiny bit past it so it kinda proves you can’t win as an AB coach no matter what you do.
Clear reasons are all well and good as long as they are correct
-
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones The win % says more than the total number of wins.
He's no Laurie Mains, but everyone's gotta have goals.
John Mitchell done so dirty by that graphic
Foster seems like a guy a little out of his depth, Mitchell has always seemed like a KHunt. So not done dirty at all in my book.
At least Foster's players genuinely seem to be fond of him. Not sure any of Mitch's players would lay on a grenade for him. I dislike the man for clear reason. His only redeeming feature is that he has a son that plays cricket for NZ and does it very well
He gave some pretty clear reasons for why he dropped Cullen but by Christ they went down like a shit sandwich.
I guess that comes down to was a case of was a 80% Cullen as good as 100% MacDonald/Blair ?
……so many on here have had a go at Foster for NOT dropping guys that are that tiny bit past it so it kinda proves you can’t win as an AB coach no matter what you do.
Clear reasons are all well and good as long as they are correct
Well Cullen ( and bear in mind I’m talking about a guy who is literally the only choice in an all time XV for me ) had lost some pace after the knee surgeries.
I also found Mitchell somewhat of a weird fellow when interviewed…..but he made a tough call and stuck to it.
