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    replied to Tim on last edited by taniwharugby
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    @Tim 1 from 4 this year alone, will be 1 from 5 after next week.

    Didn't get up for this one, looking at the HT/FT score I don't think I'll bother with the replay, mowing lawns appeals more 🤔

    What other records can we break this year?

    First 4 in a row?
    First 5 in a row?
    Lose Bledisloe?
    Lose at Eden Park?
    Lose to Wales?
    Lose to Scotland?

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Rinse and repeat, 2004 - 2011 Chiefs fans.

    He'll have to be sacked because he lacks the insight or courage to ever step down.

    He may well want the pay day, I wonder if even the WRU would hire him now.

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Tim 1 from 4 this year alone, will be 1 from 5 after next week.

    Didn't get up for this one, looking at the HT/FT score I don't think I'll bother with the replay, mowing lawns appeals more 🤔

    What other records can we break this year?

    First 4 in a row?
    First 5 in a row?
    Lose Bledisloe?
    Lose at Eden Park?
    Lose to Wales?
    Lose to Scotland?

    We lost 6 in a row in 98, I think Edit nope 5, Samoa got a spanking in the sixth game haha

    But the next 4 are totally on the cards if Foster stays in.

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by taniwharugby
    #1894

    @Machpants looks like 5 in 1998, beat england before that run but drew with England in last match of 1997.

    So worst run this century...

    The hits keep coming!

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    Aww hey guys, but what about the players

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    @Bones we need them to play...we could still play without a coach...

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    @Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    Aww hey guys, but what about the players

    Refer: the Chiefs transition from 2011 to 2012…

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    @Donsteppa said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    Aww hey guys, but what about the players

    Refer: the Chiefs transition from 2011 to 2012…

    But we should talk about the players when the coaching is clearly defunct. Because they're playing shit in his team but not other teams.

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    @Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Donsteppa said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    Aww hey guys, but what about the players

    Refer: the Chiefs transition from 2011 to 2012…

    But we should talk about the players when the coaching is clearly defunct. Because they're playing shit in his team but not other teams.

    I have wondered how much of it may be game plan, v perhaps not being willing to vary or ‘go against’ a game plan once on the field. The kicking tactics early against Ireland spring to mind from players normally much better. Selections and combinations from the coach also in the mix.

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    @Bones Your right when you say players are accountable too. But let's look at the facts. Nothing changed tactically between the 2nd and 3rd Irish Tests. Now we go to South Africa and can't handle there aerial bombardment, a tactic they've used on us before. Same Cane said it was a game of margains. He's right bloody big ones. They were men, we were boys. We once again got our arse handed to us on a plate. Foster said he saw improvement, oh good, then maybe in sometime this year we'll win another test. NO. Sorry Foster your time is up and you just simply have to go. No ifs buts or maybes. You are not up to this, now do the decent thing.

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Tim 1 from 4 this year alone, will be 1 from 5 after next week.

    Didn't get up for this one, looking at the HT/FT score I don't think I'll bother with the replay, mowing lawns appeals more 🤔

    What other records can we break this year?

    First 4 in a row?
    First 5 in a row?
    Lose Bledisloe?
    Lose at Eden Park?
    Lose to Wales?
    Lose to Scotland?

    Sigh, if only

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    @Donsteppa and then the uncharacteristic errors, sure the pressure does that too, but if you aren't clear on what you and the guys either side of you are meant to be doing, where you are going, that split second of indecision can be huge.

    There has been zero improvement in 5 years, sure that's not all on Foster, but if he was a good coach he'd have recognised some of the issues earlier and put plans in motion to rectify.

    From what I hear about Razor, it's his meticulous preparation and planning that sets him apart, not necessarily HIS coaching abilities, but the fact he gets everyone on the same page, unlike now as I'm not sure all our guys are even reading the same book...

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    Two decades of Foster's coaching surely tell only one story. It doesn't matter how many variables you try and explain or excuse it away with, you just do not get high performance results with this guy in charge of a rugby team.

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    I don't want ill on anyone but Foster and the PR team are having a mare atm! Does he not know who he is talking to and the history of the team? To come out and say that is the best performance of the season, a game in which we did not look like manufacturing a try (and only scored one of an individual linebreak) just is terrible play. It was an improvement no doubt and boys showed way more heart but if that performance is a bottom line we are f=*ked.
    Speak from the heart, that's what I enjoy about Ryan, have some passion, it rubs off on players!!

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Donsteppa and then the uncharacteristic errors, sure the pressure does that too, but if you aren't clear on what you and the guys either side of you are meant to be doing, where you are going, that split second of indecision can be huge.

    There has been zero improvement in 5 years, sure that's not all on Foster, but if he was a good coach he'd have recognised some of the issues earlier and put plans in motion to rectify.

    From what I hear about Razor, it's his meticulous preparation and planning that sets him apart, not necessarily HIS coaching abilities, but the fact he gets everyone on the same page, unlike now as I'm not sure all our guys are even reading the same book...

    I can understand why Razor might want to stay out of it right now. It appears we have so much to do to clean out the rot from 2019. But I wish he'd take up the challenge and I'd accept the consequences and not blame him if we don't have a miraculous turnaround

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    @canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Donsteppa and then the uncharacteristic errors, sure the pressure does that too, but if you aren't clear on what you and the guys either side of you are meant to be doing, where you are going, that split second of indecision can be huge.

    There has been zero improvement in 5 years, sure that's not all on Foster, but if he was a good coach he'd have recognised some of the issues earlier and put plans in motion to rectify.

    From what I hear about Razor, it's his meticulous preparation and planning that sets him apart, not necessarily HIS coaching abilities, but the fact he gets everyone on the same page, unlike now as I'm not sure all our guys are even reading the same book...

    I can understand why Razor might want to stay out of it right now. It appears we have so much to do to clean out the rot from 2019. But I wish he'd take up the challenge and I'd accept the consequences and not blame him if we don't have a miraculous turnaround

    Will it be any better next year after the RWC?

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    @stodders said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Donsteppa and then the uncharacteristic errors, sure the pressure does that too, but if you aren't clear on what you and the guys either side of you are meant to be doing, where you are going, that split second of indecision can be huge.

    There has been zero improvement in 5 years, sure that's not all on Foster, but if he was a good coach he'd have recognised some of the issues earlier and put plans in motion to rectify.

    From what I hear about Razor, it's his meticulous preparation and planning that sets him apart, not necessarily HIS coaching abilities, but the fact he gets everyone on the same page, unlike now as I'm not sure all our guys are even reading the same book...

    I can understand why Razor might want to stay out of it right now. It appears we have so much to do to clean out the rot from 2019. But I wish he'd take up the challenge and I'd accept the consequences and not blame him if we don't have a miraculous turnaround

    Will it be any better next year after the RWC?

    I guess he could start from scratch and pick his team after SR with time to set up his systems

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    @Billsy111 sorry, I was taking the piss. The buck stops at the coaching, all aspects.

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    @canefan well I think EOYT would be a better opportunity, maybe NZR give him control of picking the other nz 15 too, so he can pick his AB and 2nd 15, plus it will allow him to get any npc players that catch his eye

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    @Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

    @Billsy111 sorry, I was taking the piss. The buck stops at the coaching, all aspects.

    I was too sleep deprived to figure it out. But it did allow a few more swats at Ferret Foster for the sake of BoP Mafia nostalgia...

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