England v Argentina
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Eddie's new (not) look England side to start off the Autumn International series against the Island Stealers.
England team to face Argentina: Steward; Nowell, Tuilagi, Farrell (c), Cokanasiga; Smith, Youngs; Genge, Cowan-Dickie, Sinckler, Coles, Hill, Itoje, Curry, B Vunipola.
Replacements: Singleton, M Vunipola, Heyes, Ribbans, Simmonds, Willis, Van Poortvliet, Slade
I'm really not happy with bringing in Coles and shunting Itoje to 6. Willis is a better flanker than Maro so IMO it weakens us at both second and back row. Line out option maybe? But Curry's athleticism makes him a viable option and one that has been used quite a bit.
The midfield also looks unbalanced due I feel to Eddie desperately wanting to shoe-horn both Farrell and Tuilagi in the team. I really think that Farrell is the fly in the ointment here. Tuilagi at 12 and Slade at 13 has a better balance. If you want Farrell in there then play him at 10 with Smith on the bench (though I'd have them the other way around).
Lastly, Ben Youngs and his zimmer frame at 9 - just why? By all means have him on the bench to come on if Van Poortvliet buggers things up but JvP is the incumbent and played well in Aus and of course is very much the future.
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@Catogrande said in England V Argentina:
Eddie's new (not) look England side to start off the Autumn International series against the Island Stealers.
England team to face Argentina: Steward; Nowell, Tuilagi, Farrell (c), Cokanasiga; Smith, Youngs; Genge, Cowan-Dickie, Sinckler, Coles, Hill, Itoje, Curry, B Vunipola.
Replacements: Singleton, M Vunipola, Heyes, Ribbans, Simmonds, Willis, Van Poortvliet, Slade
I'm really not happy with bringing in Coles and shunting Itoje to 6. Willis is a better flanker than Maro so IMO it weakens us at both second and back row. Line out option maybe? But Curry's athleticism makes him a viable option and one that has been used quite a bit.
The midfield also looks unbalanced due I feel to Eddie desperately wanting to shoe-horn both Farrell and Tuilagi in the team. I really think that Farrell is the fly in the ointment here. Tuilagi at 12 and Slade at 13 has a better balance. If you want Farrell in there then play him at 10 with Smith on the bench (though I'd have them the other way around).
Lastly, Ben Youngs and his zimmer frame at 9 - just why? By all means have him on the bench to come on if Van Poortvliet buggers things up but JvP is the incumbent and played well in Aus and of course is very much the future.
Smacks of a win at all costs
England to strangle until the Argies tap out
Eddie seeing if Tuilagi can go a match without breaking?
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More smacks of a FFS don't lose. Like watching an England cricket team selection from the 90s.
It seems daft to me to have the bench stacked with forwards and still have starters playing out of position.
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Argentina: 15 Juan Cruz Mallia, 14 Mateo Carreras, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Jeronimo de la Fuente, 11 Emiliano Boffelli, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Pablo Matera, 7 Marcos Kremer, 6 Juan Martín González, 5 Tomás Lavanini, 4 Matías Alemanno, 3 Francisco Gómez Kodela, 2 Julián Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
Replacements: 16 Ignacio Ruiz, 17 Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Lucas Paulos, 20 Facundo Isa, 21 Eliseo Morales, 22 Tomás Albornoz, 23 Matías OrlandoCheering for Los Pumas but an England win could be good for the ABs.
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Fucken hell, the douche runs strong in that England tight 5. Imagine if Greening/Thomson were still playing.
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@Frye said in England V Argentina:
Argentina: 15 Juan Cruz Mallia, 14 Mateo Carreras, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Jeronimo de la Fuente, 11 Emiliano Boffelli, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Pablo Matera, 7 Marcos Kremer, 6 Juan Martín González, 5 Tomás Lavanini, 4 Matías Alemanno, 3 Francisco Gómez Kodela, 2 Julián Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
Replacements: 16 Ignacio Ruiz, 17 Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Lucas Paulos, 20 Facundo Isa, 21 Eliseo Morales, 22 Tomás Albornoz, 23 Matías OrlandoCheering for Los Pumas but an England win could be good for the ABs.
So hope Argie 12 scores
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@Bones said in England V Argentina:
Fucken hell, the douche runs strong in that England tight 5. Imagine if Greening/Thomson were still playing.
Or Cockerill\West. I don't know much about Alex Coles though. Itoje is at 6.
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Incredibly wet here. Don’t expect much.
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When do we think Lavanini will get his red card?
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Boring Boring England
Shit penalty there
Youngs was massaging that ball for ages
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Hometown or incompetent refereeing ?
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How Sinckler was not penalized in that scrum ?
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How was that not a penalty?
Smith never let him get up -
Can't think what those England jerseys today remind me of?
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@MiketheSnow Also Smith offside?
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Good try. Cokanasiga hard to stop from close range.
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Nice hands from Youngs
Solid carry for Cok
England 10-6 Argentina
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England leading 10-6. Lots of big runners in their backline.
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@sparky said in England v Argentina:
Can't think what those England jerseys today remind me of?
Argentina's dark blue away strip...
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A smash em bro from Tuilagi.
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Steward was not trying to catch that. With no opposition he goes flying past.
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Mr Touchline is a popular player today
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Argentina kick a penalty. 10-9.
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England win a penalty. The ref calls Itoje out from gloating about it.
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Farrell kicks the penalty. 13-9
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Boring game so far.
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Itoje just cost his team another silly penalty, no need to rush up like that.
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England defence flies up. Soft penalty. 13-12. Not really a looker this one.
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You’re being kind
Shithouse
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England asking their tighties to do a lot of hard graft.
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England celebrating winning that penalty like it's a grand slam.
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@sparky said in England v Argentina:
England celebrating winning that penalty like it's a grand slam.
I daresay Phil Vickery would very much fucking not like that abysmal display of shouty nonsense.
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Argie mucking about with the ball, too slow, England counter & win penalty, and act like they've won the WC
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16-12 to England at the break. Boring as hell. I'm not going to bother with the second half.
The game's going to be dead in 20 years if teams are as unadventurous as this.
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Pretty uninspiring all round. Not a great advert for the game.
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Mate at the game just texted. Says it's not a great game to be at and the crowd atmos is really flat.
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Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown might fancy their team's chances next week.
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Itpje is such a twat
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Slick move by the Argies. Great try.
