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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Poll closes automatically at kickoff

    All RWC voting is being counted in a half arsed tipping competition.

    1 point for correct result, 3 points for a correct result and margin. No points for a draw

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    Boks to run away with it

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    Boks to run away with it

    Agreed.

    But Ireland will beat the Boks….then Scotland will beat Ireland.

    ……and less deserving shit teams from the other side of the draw will get through to the quarters.

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    It's been said.

    I'll say it again ...

    1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 all on the same side of the draw.

    Screenshot_20230904_181903_Chrome.jpg

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    @booboo havent WR already said they will do it different next time, or did I imagine that?

    If they havent, this will highlight how ridiculous the current way is.

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    @booboo havent WR already said they will do it different next time, or did I imagine that?

    If they havent, this will highlight how ridiculous the current way is.

    Dunno. Haven't seen anything, nit that I'm looking ... but they royally fucked this one up huh?

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    Gilpin has acknowledged there needs to be a change in the timing of the draw.

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    @booboo said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    It's been said.

    I'll say it again ...

    1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 all on the same side of the draw.

    Screenshot_20230904_181903_Chrome.jpg

    Oh give it up for fuck's sake

    No one complained in 2019

    Serves Scotland for not making it out of the pool in 2019; and Ireland and France for both failing at the QF stage

    The Scots will gurn if they don't get out of the pool this time round, blaming it on the draw

    Well fuck me they had a dream draw in 2019 and shit the bed against Japan

    Substitute SA for France and the NZ pool looks pretty much the same

    England's pool was the toughest on paper and Argentina went home

    And the Wales pool is practically the same

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    @booboo said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    It's been said.

    I'll say it again ...

    1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 all on the same side of the draw.

    Screenshot_20230904_181903_Chrome.jpg

    Oh give it up for fuck's sake

    No one complained in 2019

    Serves Scotland for not making it out of the pool in 2019; and Ireland and France for both failing at the QF stage

    The Scots will gurn if they don't get out of the pool this time round, blaming it on the draw

    Well fuck me they had a dream draw in 2019 and shit the bed against Japan

    Substitute SA for France and the NZ pool looks pretty much the same

    England's pool was the toughest on paper and Argentina went home

    And the Wales pool is practically the same

    Not sure the relevance of any of that to how silly the draw looks now.

    In theory the seeded/semi randomised draw is a good thing to incentivise and reward play outside World Cups. Yes there's always a risk of a slightly lopsided pool when grouping in bands of four.

    But I'll continue to complain that this was done waaay too early when so much could still change in the way of rankings, and when the effect of double points at RWC is still artificially affecting rankings.

    What's the point of the double points? To make the RWC important? How is it not already the biggest thing going?

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    @MiketheSnow pretty sure people have pointed out how silly it is doing it so early and based on previous rankings in previous cups too.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    I’m happy with the draw. Gives the Scots a valid excuse to whinge about instead of weather related gripes in the 2019 RWC

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    Yes they are changing it for the next one.
    World Rugby will hold the pool draws for future Rugby World Cups at a later date, closer to the kick-off of upcoming tournaments

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @booboo said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    @booboo said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    It's been said.

    I'll say it again ...

    1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 all on the same side of the draw.

    Screenshot_20230904_181903_Chrome.jpg

    Oh give it up for fuck's sake

    No one complained in 2019

    Serves Scotland for not making it out of the pool in 2019; and Ireland and France for both failing at the QF stage

    The Scots will gurn if they don't get out of the pool this time round, blaming it on the draw

    Well fuck me they had a dream draw in 2019 and shit the bed against Japan

    Substitute SA for France and the NZ pool looks pretty much the same

    England's pool was the toughest on paper and Argentina went home

    And the Wales pool is practically the same

    Not sure the relevance of any of that to how silly the draw looks now.

    In theory the seeded/semi randomised draw is a good thing to incentivise and reward play outside World Cups. Yes there's always a risk of a slightly lopsided pool when grouping in bands of four.

    But I'll continue to complain that this was done waaay too early when so much could still change in the way of rankings, and when the effect of double points at RWC is still artificially affecting rankings.

    What's the point of the double points? To make the RWC important? How is it not already the biggest thing going?

    I don't mind having the super strong pools like this (although it sucks to be Scotland), they just need to send the 2nd placed team to the other side at the Quarter final stage. We also need to mix things up a bit - Wales, Fiji and Australia seem to be in the same pool as of right.

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    I like the way Richie ( mccaw ) simplified it when the draw came up on the latest podcast ,

    Not word for word because i listened a few days ago ,

    He said something like , end of the day its the same as any other wc , qualify , then win 3 big games in a row.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    OK to put it another way, which team(s) is this draw actually fucking up / unfair to?

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    OK to put it another way, which team(s) is this draw actually fucking up / unfair to?

    I think if one of the top 4 contenders was on the easy side of the draw then we could say , thats not fair, look at their run, but the top sides are all in a similar scenario, so at least that part is even

    ive come around a bit , it is what it is , at least we have some great match ups in pool play for viewing,

    I remember in 15 , Aus , England and Wales in the same pool was entertaining.

    But the worst part living in Australia , we could get knocked out in the quarters and the aussies make a semi, and the casuals will think they are better than us, I can see that coming 😧

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    the draw only looks silly because the ended up all on the same side by random chance. If they were all going up different sides no one would care.

    It's fucking great, and i hope to shit one of Argentina or Fiji go a long way.

    I also hope the Scots push the Irish out because the lols will be endless

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Also i think South Africa win this but i doubt there is much in it. Ireland v Scotland will be huge

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    'Our game plan was set for South Africa': Fully-fit Scotland squad ready to go

    'Our game plan was set for South Africa': Fully-fit Scotland squad ready to go

    Concern had surrounded Darcy Graham and Blair Kinghorn.

    At least the Scots have a fit squad to pick from

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    The draw discussion continues here:
    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5838/rugby-world-cup-news/582

    That might go on longer than this match thread

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