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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @mn5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    The headline was Emmy award winner slams Lorde, which probably got a few clicking to see who it was then they changed it to Rosanne Barr slams Lorde now they’ve got it all in there.
    Lordes addiction to Botox and fillers is making her resemble Lady Penelope from Thunderbirds more and more.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11966035

    She looks about my age. Hard to believe she's in her early 20s.

    When she first came on the scene with that video that shows her square on my apprentice fell in love with her based on that very well shot video .
    Because I am a prick I started sending him things like this

    Older Black People who Look Younger Than Lorde

    Older Black People who Look Younger Than Lorde

    I provide scientific proof that we, black people, have in fact found the fountain of youth.

    I appreciate Racharl Dolezal being first on the list.

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    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    Because I am a prick I started sending him things like this

    That is not being a prick. It's informative, and a young apprentice should be open to new concepts that broaden / change their mind as you see fit as the employer.

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    @jegga I think exams suck, most unrealistic situation you will ever find yourself in

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    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga I think exams suck, most unrealistic situation you will ever find yourself in

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    @canefan seriously though, how often are you in a situation where you need to know a calculation, fact, how to do something, check with a co-worker/peer or anything really and everyone around you is not allowed to talk to you, nor are you allowed to ask Uncle Google or consult a handbook/instructions etc

    BTW, I passed all the exams I sat form School C onwards, I just hate them!

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    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan seriously though, how often are you in a situation where you need to know a calculation, fact, how to do something, check with a co-worker/peer or anything really and everyone around you is not allowed to talk to you, nor are you allowed to ask Uncle Google or consult a handbook/instructions etc.

    Not very often for most people - but in time critical jobs, all of the things that you mention can cost lives. Pilots, surgeons, police, firefighters, etc. They need immediate knowledge, no time to google "how do I land this thing when the wheels won't come down?" Admittedly discussion might be allowed, but someone has to know. It's not always possible, with pilots and emergency services anyway.

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    @snowy appreciate that, but how often will you not have a co-pilot, or have your computers to assist etc...yes there are always situations where you are required to make a decision, but in many situations you still have a colleague or peer to at least try to offload blame...surgeons are surrounded by a team, ultimately the buck stops with them, but if a nurse sees him/her doing somethign not quite right, they will (or should) question it, firefighters will often do things in pairs or teams, so again always someone to with you to before you make a decision that could result in loss of life.

    People who become surgeons, pilots are often fairly high up in thier field anyway, people like cops and fire fighters are special kinds of people as well.

    Yes there are exceptions, but I just feel that exams are nothing like the majority of situations the majority of people find themselves in.

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    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @snowy appreciate that, but how often will you not have a co-pilot, or have your computers to assist etc...yes there are always situations where you are required to make a decision, but in many situations you still have a colleague or peer to at least try to offload blame...

    I'll only comment on the pilot comments. Yes you will have a co pilot who blames the Captain - who does the Captain blame?
    Communication in time critical situations is erratic at best. Ever used an oxygen mask and intercom at the same time in a smoke filled cockpit? It's two blind Darth Vaders in a seriously stressful situation trying to fix things in a team environment where you can't actually get that much through to each other.

    You both need to know your shit and be able to do it. To prove it you need to sit exams.

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    @snowy ha, yes, but again, how often...how many of those scenarios play out vs how many times every thing is awesome 🙂 and you also learn from these situations.

    As I said, I get where you are coming from, but feel is is only applicable to a small % of people and situations, and even then, some people who might have a photographic memory and get 100% in every exam might simply panic in situations as you describe.

    Anywhoo, just my opinion 🤔

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    I still think there is a place for good old fashion tests. In life you don't get a prize just for turning up. If it's good enough for our sports heroes to be tested week in week out it should be ok for our kids to be put to the test

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    A higher level of base skill? So they allow text speak in exam essays? Yeah, that's a great way to set them up for careers.

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    @canefan not saying you dont have to work for your results, quals, to make the team or whatever, just a one off exam is rarely a reflection of someones true ability (one poor game/throw/ride/swim etc is not a reflection of a poor sportsperson)

    sure there are certain fields and professions where exams are important to put people under pressure to rely on knowledge and instincts, but for the majority it is unrealistic

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    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan not saying you dont have to work for your results, quals, to make the team or whatever, just a one off exam is rarely a reflection of someones true ability (one poor game/throw/ride/swim etc is not a reflection of a poor sportsperson)

    I'm not fussed on a one off winner take all exam. But internal assessment can be easily manipulated and won't pit you against the field in the way that an external examination does. Even if a course has for example a 50% external exam component it gives you a better idea where you stand

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    @canefan how is that any different to the real world? Plenty of plebs blunder thier way into top jobs/roles that they are unsuited for, some get found out, others fake it till they make it...

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    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan how is that any different to the real world? Plenty of plebs blunder thier way into top jobs/roles that they are unsuited for, some get found out, others fake it till they make it...

    Yeah, no system is perfect I guess. I just don't like the idea that the system encourages kids to stop once they have their points. I'd expect there are plenty of kids who try to strive to be the best they can be. But if NCEA was so good why do some schools go looking for external learning exams like Cambridge

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    @canefan many have been unhappy with NCEA for years havent they?

    Thats the crux, no system is perfect, everyone learns differently.

    I managed to get high results in English exams due to my memory, whereas I was scared shitless of math, so always just scraped in, until I got a teacher who showed me another way of doing things, nek minut, maths wasnt so scary!

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    Finally, I’m sure you’ve all been waiting for this as much as me

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11946342

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    @tim I was working with a weirdo that wouldn’t join any sort of forum , social media or do any sort of survey because he didn’t want the man getting ahold of his secrets. Needless to say he had a smartphone so all his paranoia was a waste of time, anyway this clown bought his girlfriend who he was having a long distance relationship with one of these and was forever bragging about it.

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    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    Finally, I’m sure you’ve all been waiting for this as much as me

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11946342

    What the actual fuck????

    How is this airhead getting coverage?

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