Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA
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@MN5 said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@Virgil said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@MN5 said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
Great win BCs. Super stuff seeing them chase down another big total.
Really good seeing Conway get a chunk of the runs, unlucky to miss the ton.
KW class as he tends to be.
Hopefully Latham had a good game with the gloves
His last 4 ODI scores to date.. 0 0 0 1
That innings of 1 is something to build on.
Let’s not forget he brings ‘experience’
Well hes only score 1 more run then i have from the last 4 ODI's played and i have no experience.
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@Virgil said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@MN5 said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@Virgil said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@MN5 said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
Great win BCs. Super stuff seeing them chase down another big total.
Really good seeing Conway get a chunk of the runs, unlucky to miss the ton.
KW class as he tends to be.
Hopefully Latham had a good game with the gloves
His last 4 ODI scores to date.. 0 0 0 1
That innings of 1 is something to build on.
Let’s not forget he brings ‘experience’
Well hes only score 1 more run then i have from the last 4 ODI's played and i have no experience.
Yeah but I bet you’re a shit wicket keeper
Latham knew he was struggling for form so heroically went out first ball so as Philips could come in, if that's not a team man I don't know what is.
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@Cyclops said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
Kane the second fastest ever to 7000 ODI runs - quicker than Kohli. Slightly surprised by that as ODIs always felt like the weaker format for him.
Took Kane 14 years to reach this mark, Kohli did it in 7...
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@Virgil said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@Cyclops said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
Kane the second fastest ever to 7000 ODI runs - quicker than Kohli. Slightly surprised by that as ODIs always felt like the weaker format for him.
Took Kane 14 years to reach this mark, Kohli did it in 7...
159 innings in those 14 years vs 161 innings for Kohli in those 7. Another indicator of how much less cricket we play though.
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Looking to the Champions Trophy, who's our starting side based on these games? I'm tempted to open with Ravindra and Conway. Drop the out of form Latham and move Young down to four. Conway can keep. Or move Conway down to four so we open with a right hand / left hand combination.
We should go with the below.
- Conway (WK)
- Ravindra
- Williamson
- Young
- Mitchell
- Phillips
- Bracewell
- Santner
- Henry
- Sears
- O'Rourke
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@Canes4life said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
Looking to the Champions Trophy, who's our starting side based on these games? I'm tempted to open with Ravindra and Conway. Drop the out of form Latham and move Young down to four. Conway can keep. Or move Conway down to four so we open with a right hand / left hand combination.
We should go with the below.
- Conway (WK)
- Ravindra
- Williamson
- Young
- Mitchell
- Phillips
- Bracewell
- Santner
- Henry
- Sears
- O'Rourke
Looks good aside from what I’ve bolded. He’s just got his first decent score in yonks. Do we want to put that burden on him too ?
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@MN5 said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@Canes4life said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
Looking to the Champions Trophy, who's our starting side based on these games? I'm tempted to open with Ravindra and Conway. Drop the out of form Latham and move Young down to four. Conway can keep. Or move Conway down to four so we open with a right hand / left hand combination.
We should go with the below.
- Conway (WK)
- Ravindra
- Williamson
- Young
- Mitchell
- Phillips
- Bracewell
- Santner
- Henry
- Sears
- O'Rourke
Looks good aside from what I’ve bolded. He’s just got his first decent score in yonks. Do we want to put that burden on him too ?
It's either include him as a batsman/keeper, or drop him/Young and keep Latham.
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@Canes4life said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@MN5 said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
@Canes4life said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
Looking to the Champions Trophy, who's our starting side based on these games? I'm tempted to open with Ravindra and Conway. Drop the out of form Latham and move Young down to four. Conway can keep. Or move Conway down to four so we open with a right hand / left hand combination.
We should go with the below.
- Conway (WK)
- Ravindra
- Williamson
- Young
- Mitchell
- Phillips
- Bracewell
- Santner
- Henry
- Sears
- O'Rourke
Looks good aside from what I’ve bolded. He’s just got his first decent score in yonks. Do we want to put that burden on him too ?
It's either include him as a batsman/keeper, or drop him/Young and keep Latham.
Yeah when those are the alternatives perhaps you have a point.
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How long is Ravindra injured for? Conway was at his worst once he hit 70ish whether it was nerves approaching 100 or he realized his appalling calling almost got Kane out, his nerves came back. Looked very awkward from then on.
Still better than Latham at the moment. Geez, has anyone done last 10 innings for Latham in all formats, I suspect he doesn't average 10 across them
Latham, hope youre reading this lol
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The last thing NZ should do is give the gloves to Conway,He is just sorting out that footwork and has some runs under his belt.
Throwing 50 overs at him as WK is not what he needs,He needs to build on that innings concentrate on that not drain him in the field for 50 overs in the heat, then expect him to open the batting and score runs.
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@Chris agree completely. He'll never have the footwork of someone like Kane but he was moving his feet more than I have seem him in a long time last night, great to see. I opined when he was selected that hopefully the shorter forms will force him into a more positive mindset and that seemed to be the case, albeit against a pretty poor bowling lineup. But the innings should do him a world of good.
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@Chris said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
The last thing NZ should do is give the gloves to Conway,He is just sorting out that footwork and has some runs under his belt.
Throwing 50 overs at him as WK is not what he needs,He needs to build on that innings concentrate on that not drain him in the field for 50 overs in the heat, then expect him to open the batting and score runs.
That would be a very poor selection.Who keeps then ?
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@bayimports said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
How long is Ravindra injured for? Conway was at his worst once he hit 70ish whether it was nerves approaching 100 or he realized his appalling calling almost got Kane out, his nerves came back. Looked very awkward from then on.
Still better than Latham at the moment. Geez, has anyone done last 10 innings for Latham in all formats, I suspect he doesn't average 10 across them
Latham, hope youre reading this lol
His dismissal was unlucky, he hit the shit out of that cut. Problem was he hit it directly to the fieldsman
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@KiwiMurph said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
It's almost like they should have taken a punt on Hay.....
They've got no choice but to just hope like hell Latham finds form now, omitting Hay was just another stupid, overly conservative decision, very frustrating.
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@Canes4life said in Tri Series PAK/NZ/SA:
Looking to the Champions Trophy, who's our starting side based on these games? I'm tempted to open with Ravindra and Conway. Drop the out of form Latham and move Young down to four. Conway can keep. Or move Conway down to four so we open with a right hand / left hand combination.
We should go with the below.
- Conway (WK)
- Ravindra
- Williamson
- Young
- Mitchell
- Phillips
- Bracewell
- Santner
- Henry
- Sears
- O'Rourke
As honking as Conway taking the gloves is, I'd argue squeezing Young in at 4 and shifting Mitchell down is worse.
That guys is cricket's answer to David Havili. A solid player, able to fill many roles, but ultimately one who goes missing when the heat really comes on.
Across 31 Test Innings against AUS/SA/IND/ENG he has 3 scores above 60
Across 9 ODI Innings against AUS/SA/IND/ENG he has a high score of 33 -
@Virgil you definitely gain confidence just by staying in the middle, but often in games when youre out of form you hit good shots to fielders anyway, I agree just hope he focuses on the earlier part of his innings with him, rather than the end
