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well given she is going up against Cindy who is the kindness queen with the smile wider than her head...
It should be irrelevant, and I dont think it is anything to do with her sex, all about perception, if she never smiles or has her serious face on all the time, people arent going to warm to them as easily.
IMO of course.
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I don't see any issue with talking about a smile, people about Trump and his smirking all the time. Not to mention his hair, his orange skin, his weight, his golf swing. Nobody calls that sexist?
Smiling, along with all other mannerisms form effective communication tools. Crucial for a politician.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@voodoo said in NZ Politics:
Crucial for a politician
Yeah. Nah.
Almost missed the intent here. Poor form of me to let that through
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@voodoo said in NZ Politics:
Crucial for a politician
Yeah. Nah.
ideally maybe not but a lot of people look for "good" people as their leaders and friendly is commonly associated with "good", a professional politician should realise you have to win before anything before you can make the changes you think are needed
This is also more at play than elsewhere, National and labour are much closer than the right and left parties in other countries so when policies arent a million miles away from each other likable comes in to play
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@Kiwiwomble I think he was having a dig at my poor wording that appeared to suggest our much-loved political agitator and combatant to Winger, @Crucial run for office...
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
well given she is going up against Cindy who is the kindness queen with the smile wider than her head...
It should be irrelevant, and I dont think it is anything to do with her sex, all about perception, if she never smiles or has her serious face on all the time, people arent going to warm to them as easily.
IMO of course.
Aunty Helen learned the hard way that you need to have a believable smile
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@voodoo said in NZ Politics:
I don't see any issue with talking about a smile, people about Trump and his smirking all the time. Not to mention his hair, his orange skin, his weight, his golf swing. Nobody calls that sexist?
Smiling, along with all other mannerisms form effective communication tools. Crucial for a politician.
Not withstanding the fact he's a colossal dickwad Trump is apparently allowed to be mocked cos he's white and successful whereas anything even remotely derogatory towards the other side is racist/homophobic/sexist/bigotted/transphobic/fat shaming/ageist etc.
The double standards are what I hate about the extreme left.
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@MN5 said in NZ Politics:
@voodoo said in NZ Politics:
I don't see any issue with talking about a smile, people about Trump and his smirking all the time. Not to mention his hair, his orange skin, his weight, his golf swing. Nobody calls that sexist?
Smiling, along with all other mannerisms form effective communication tools. Crucial for a politician.
Not withstanding the fact he's a colossal dickwad Trump is apparently allowed to be mocked cos he's white and successful whereas anything even remotely derogatory towards the other side is racist/homophobic/sexist/bigotted/transphobic/fat shaming/ageist etc.
The double standards are what I hate about the extreme left.
I don't think it's a left right thing. All people are judgemental about a person's appearance, just in different ways for men and women
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@MN5 said in NZ Politics:
@voodoo said in NZ Politics:
I don't see any issue with talking about a smile, people about Trump and his smirking all the time. Not to mention his hair, his orange skin, his weight, his golf swing. Nobody calls that sexist?
Smiling, along with all other mannerisms form effective communication tools. Crucial for a politician.
Not withstanding the fact he's a colossal dickwad Trump is apparently allowed to be mocked cos he's white and successful whereas anything even remotely derogatory towards the other side is racist/homophobic/sexist/bigotted/transphobic/fat shaming/ageist etc.
The double standards are what I hate about the extreme left.
I don't think it's a left right thing. All people are judgemental about a person's appearance, just in different ways for men and women
Oh undoubtedly but it’s the extreme left that cry foul if someone makes an observation.
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@MN5 said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@MN5 said in NZ Politics:
@voodoo said in NZ Politics:
I don't see any issue with talking about a smile, people about Trump and his smirking all the time. Not to mention his hair, his orange skin, his weight, his golf swing. Nobody calls that sexist?
Smiling, along with all other mannerisms form effective communication tools. Crucial for a politician.
Not withstanding the fact he's a colossal dickwad Trump is apparently allowed to be mocked cos he's white and successful whereas anything even remotely derogatory towards the other side is racist/homophobic/sexist/bigotted/transphobic/fat shaming/ageist etc.
The double standards are what I hate about the extreme left.
I don't think it's a left right thing. All people are judgemental about a person's appearance, just in different ways for men and women
Oh undoubtedly but it’s the extreme left that cry foul if someone makes an observation.
Most likely if it's a woman. Helen Clark used to get lots of shit for her appearance, she publicly used to ignore it. But I remember her losing her first election as opposition leader, next time she had upped her PR in the looks and demeanour department considerably
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@MN5 said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@MN5 said in NZ Politics:
@voodoo said in NZ Politics:
I don't see any issue with talking about a smile, people about Trump and his smirking all the time. Not to mention his hair, his orange skin, his weight, his golf swing. Nobody calls that sexist?
Smiling, along with all other mannerisms form effective communication tools. Crucial for a politician.
Not withstanding the fact he's a colossal dickwad Trump is apparently allowed to be mocked cos he's white and successful whereas anything even remotely derogatory towards the other side is racist/homophobic/sexist/bigotted/transphobic/fat shaming/ageist etc.
The double standards are what I hate about the extreme left.
I don't think it's a left right thing. All people are judgemental about a person's appearance, just in different ways for men and women
Oh undoubtedly but it’s the extreme left that cry foul if someone makes an observation.
Most likely if it's a woman. Helen Clark used to get lots of shit for her appearance, she publicly used to ignore it. But I remember her losing her first election as opposition leader, next time she had upped her PR in the looks and demeanour department considerably
The old saying about polishing a turd comes to mind
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Judith shows the other lot how to deal with a scandal. Woodhouse is demoted and Dr Shane Reti made Minister of Health within 15 hours of her assuming power
An intelligent appointment (who knows why he wasn't installed before), Dr Reti would appear to tick a lot of boxes
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@Mokey said in NZ Politics:
Don't recall anyone fapping on about Muller's smile. Or boy wonder Luxon, whoever he is.
I did see several comments about him being bald though. Sure the same will be true for Luxon. It is a distinct disadvantage neither can do a great deal about.
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@Mokey Maggie Thatcher said she had to change her voice in order to win the leadership battle so I don't think the comments are that out of order.
And as we saw with Simon Bridges your cadence and accent is all a part of the package.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
RNZ is reporting that Nikki Kaye will announce today that she is stepping down from politics and will not stand in Akl Central.
Man wouldn't mind having the National Party's signwriting contract.
Deputy Leader to gone in 72 hrs.
Sounds like Amy Adams will leave too
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