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  • MN5M Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="604317" data-time="1470730044">
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    <p>you have an issue with Water Polo but not synchronised swimming....wonder why</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Plenty of sports, hobbies or past times have a required skill level and some form of reasonable physical involvement and there are plenty of sports I dont think should be at the games, but there will be plenty who disagree.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Surely we can all agree Poker is not a sport, I mean they play it on the sports channel so someone is confused enough to think it it one! </p>
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    <p>ESPN played some college spelling bee on sky sports once. No shit. Fucken exciting it was too, the nerdy white kid with glasses beat the nerdy Asian kid with glasses. Thank goodness it wasn't a maths event.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="604303" data-time="1470728060"><p>The issue with allowing them back on is: where?</p></blockquote><br>The issue is where the mandated penalty is 10% of the game time in a final and instead it turned into a 20% penalty.<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><p>A sport like AFL with an interchange bench has strict rules around where a player may enter or leave the field of play for interchange. They don't have an offside line, or a sin bin/card system. The game continues.<br><br>League sides only do interchange when they have the ball, because they're unlikely to suffer a change of possession in the meantime. Again, this is interchange, not yellow card.</p></blockquote><br>We aren't talking about interchange.<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><p>With rugby, allowing a player back on the field without the consent of the referee - who is the sole judge of law in the game - has to have pretty tight restrictions placed around it.<br><br>Firstly, the referee's often take a moment to address the player to reinforce the admonishment, though that is less so in 7s.<br><br>Secondly, they can't come back from an offside position :think: maybe only from in-goal? Then an official has to monitor that as well.</p></blockquote><br>You can run on from the sideline regardless because the ball is dead as per Law 3.13<br><br>It's a simple amendment for 7s to make that the player can come back on in an onside position as long as the timekeeper responsible for the yellow card is happy the penalty has been served.

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    Can we put the fucking rugby laws discussion on its own fucking thread.<br><br>
    Olympics: every 4 years.<br><br>
    Rugby law conundrum; every fucking ruck, maul, scrum, card of every fucking game, every season.

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    Abby Erceg had her red card rescinded so she's available for the white ferns in their crucial game against France. Great result

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    <p>I reckon Archery should take over from Darts. Archers at the back of the hall shooting over the heads of beer swilling fans underneath. Modify the scoring system a little to introduce some of the drama of darts, sets that finish with a "double". Loud music. Darts would be history in no time.</p>

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    <p>And on the Sevens - Aussies now the team to beat in Women's 7s after NZ dominated for a few years. Women's team seems to be modelled on the Men's without out and out speedsters but with everyone having pace and power. The game has come on a bit in recent years with more competitive teams and the defence ramping up - good to see. Looked like NZ needed one more game breaker out there, it was Kayla and Portia and if they don't do it then nobody will. What happened to Honey Hireme (Honey Bill)?</p>
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    <p>And I only listened on the radio but even I was urging them to kick it out when they were on attack with 6 players. They just had to avoid conceding until they were back to 7.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Immenso Rapido" data-cid="604323" data-time="1470731541">
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    <p>Can we put the fucking rugby laws discussion on its own fucking thread.<br><br>
    Olympics: every 4 years.<br><br>
    Rugby law conundrum; every fucking ruck, maul, scrum, card of every fucking game, every season.</p>
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    <p>Brilliant brief rant and I agree 100%.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="604332" data-time="1470732736">
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    <p>Brilliant brief rant and I agree 100%.</p>
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    <p>Unless you put a pic of a hot female athlete in the post as compensation for the rest of us.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiPie" data-cid="604328" data-time="1470732184"><p>
    I reckon Archery should take over from Darts. Archers at the back of the hall shooting over the heads of beer swilling fans underneath. Modify the scoring system a little to introduce some of the drama of darts, sets that finish with a "double". Loud music. Darts would be history in no time.</p></blockquote>
    The Lamb pub in Devizes, Wiltshire has a shooting gallery in the pub. You can blaze away while sipping on a cold brew.<br><br>
    "At first hearing, the pairing of firearms and alcohol seems a bit unconventional, but the shooting range has lived happily in The Lamb for more than a century, having been introduced, post-Boer War, with a view to improving the marksmanship of the locals ready for the conflicts to come.<br><br>
    Ironic, really, that the authorities should seek to introduce lethal weaponry to an establishment where, traditionally, differences have been resolved peacefully. “We don’t get fights in here,” says Ricky"<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/9489794/Pint-to-Pint-The-Lamb-Inn-Devizes-Wiltshire.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/9489794/Pint-to-Pint-The-Lamb-Inn-Devizes-Wiltshire.html</a>

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    <p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpXypLwWYAEETnW.jpg" alt="CpXypLwWYAEETnW.jpg"></p>
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    <p>God, we really do need a new flag. That is ridiculous.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="TeWaio" data-cid="604338" data-time="1470733189">
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    <p>God, we really do need a new flag. That is ridiculous.</p>
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    <p>Lets get some vexillologists onto that, those guys really know their stuff.</p>

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="TeWaio" data-cid="604338" data-time="1470733189"><p>
    God, we really do need a new flag. That is ridiculous.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Stop it ...

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    dingo
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="604342" data-time="1470733668"><p>
    Lets get some vexillologists onto that, those guys really know their stuff.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    As any good vexillologist would know, the NZ ensign became law by act of Parliament in 1902. The Australian in 1903. To avoid confusion, make them pavlova stealing flag copyists in the west island change their Jonny come lately national dish cloth.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Immenso Rapido" data-cid="604323" data-time="1470731541"><p>Can we put the fucking rugby laws discussion on its own fucking thread.<br><br>Olympics: every 4 years.<br><br>Rugby law conundrum; every fucking ruck, maul, scrum, card of every fucking game, every season.</p></blockquote> <br>Sorry to have ruined your Olympic experience.<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="TeWaio" data-cid="604338" data-time="1470733189"><p>God, we really do need a new flag. That is ridiculous.</p></blockquote><br>Maybe one day.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dingo" data-cid="604358" data-time="1470735186">
    <div><br><p>As any good vexillologist would know, the NZ ensign became law by act of Parliament in 1902. The Australian in 1903. To avoid confusion, make them pavlova stealing flag copyists in the west island change their Jonny come lately national dish cloth.</p>
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    <p>Parliament schmarliament.</p>
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    <p>Tasmania produced the dish cloth in <a class="bbc_url" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasian_Anti-Transportation_League_Flag"><span style="color:#0000cd;"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">1849</span></strong></span></a>, as any fule kno.  :gamer:  </p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="604314" data-time="1470729321">
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    <p>Silver was best we could have realistically done. We would beat that Aussie team about once in every 6 or 7.</p>
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    <p>I don't watch a lot of women 7s and I know based on history (and that game) that they are a better side <em>but </em>I don't think the gap is so big that we couldn't have won that game. A few decisions going the other way and that game could been in the balance until the very end.</p>

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    The try that was given and shouldn't, along with Woodman getting stranded on the sideline for an extended period were critical in the end. Not to say we would have won but it was a major turning point

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiPie" data-cid="604331" data-time="1470732711">
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    <p>Looked like NZ needed one more game breaker out there, it was Kayla and Portia and if they don't do it then nobody will. <strong>What happened to Honey Hireme (Honey Bill)?</strong></p>
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    <p>Good question.  Hireme wasn't picked in the team for most of the season so she either made herself unavailable or wasn't selected.  She has size and speed.  Hohepa is another who could have provided some x-factor. </p>
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    <p>I thought Goss was fantastic in the final and she does a power of work at the breakdown, but a failure to secure their own ball from other players was a real weakness in the SF and final.</p>

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    <p>Mahe just won his quarter final. Tight race between him and the Czech Synek for the first 1500m but Synek couldn't keep up and Mahe won by exactly 4 seconds.</p>

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    <br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="604322" data-time="1470731083"><p>
    We aren't talking about interchange.<br></p></blockquote>
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    Yeah thanks - pretty sure I covered that in addressing both those sports and their differences.<br><br>
    And that's exactly why letting someone back out to play doesn't work in rugby without the right restrictions - it's all well and good to say:<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="604322" data-time="1470731083"><p>
    It's a simple amendment for 7s to make that the player can come back on in an onside position as long as the timekeeper responsible for the yellow card is happy the penalty has been served.</p></blockquote>
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    But the onside position can change rapidly. The only guarantee of following this in a fast Games like Sevens is to enter the field where there is NO offside position: in-goal.<br><br>
    Otherwise someone will enter the field in a position that is onside one second and not the next, and officials will be tripping over each other trying to figure out what's right.

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