Olympics Thread
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<p>I've honestly always struggled with the Olympics having subjective sports. Diving, Synchronised Swimming etc where judges decide points etc.</p>
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<p>Fastest, Highest, Strongest was the original motto. I'm happy with that being extended to most goals / points etc. But highest score as decided by judges? </p>
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Jeez - just watched Irish runner, Thomas Barr, steam though his 400m hurdles semi-final to win it. The last time there was an Irish 400m finalist was 84 years ago. And he won the final. <br><br>
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<p>According to Wiki - Hockey is the only Olympic sport India has a good track record in - they've won 11 medals including 8 golds.</p>
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<p>Only other sports they've medaled in are shooting (4 medals, 1 gold), wrestling (4 medals, 0 gold), boxing (2 medals), badminton, weightlifting and tennis (one bronze in each).</p> -
Gotta say Yealden is doing a great job on the RS commentary, making some of these sports sound way more exciting than when I watch them
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="605909" data-time="1471391473"><p>
Is there any chance he's right?</p></blockquote>
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Yes.<br><br>
I posted an article before the games started where a whistle blower outed that it was fixed.<br><br>
AIBA are a captured organisation. <br><br>
I wouldn't bother wasting your time watching any Olympic boxing, until it's at a point where an Azeri, Russian or Venezuelan fighting each other. Then the suspense will last until we find out who's bribe was biggest, or how the horse trading was conducted. -
<p>slow start, but those front two fucked off sharpish for the last lap. Not sure what your coverage was, but mine cut to the pom being overtaken in 3rd and missed the Kenyan's decisive move.</p>
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<p>I've honestly always struggled with the Olympics having subjective sports. Diving, Synchronised Swimming etc where judges decide points etc.</p>
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<p>Fastest, Highest, Strongest was the original motto. I'm happy with that being extended to most goals / points etc. But highest score as decided by judges? </p>
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<p>Just doesn't sit right with me.</p>
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<p>Anything "artistic" can fuck off like the dancing gymnastics or ball-throwing bit. Dressage? Fuck off. Actually scrap everything horse-related because its a crock of shit and nothing to do with "human endeavour". Just rich fluffybunnies.</p>
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<p>Swimming needs to be seriously culled down to 100m, 200m, 400m, 1500m, 10km open water race - fastest wins, whatever stroke you want. If you can beat someone's freestyle using butterfly, go for it.</p>
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<p>Walking? Fuck off. </p>
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<p>Judo is shit to watch. Karate would be better.</p> -
<p>what about gymnastics?</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="605941" data-time="1471398244"><p>Anything "artistic" can fuck off like the dancing gymnastics or ball-throwing bit. Dressage? Fuck off. Actually scrap everything horse-related because its a crock of shit and nothing to do with "human endeavour". Just rich fluffybunnys.<br>
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Swimming needs to be seriously culled down to 100m, 200m, 400m, 1500m, 10km open water race - fastest wins, whatever stroke you want. If you can beat someone's freestyle using butterfly, go for it.<br>
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Walking? Fuck off. <br>
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Judo is shit to watch. Karate would be better.</p></blockquote>
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Pedant note:<br>
Freestyle is exactly what it means. Use whatever style/stroke you want. The front crawl stroke is the one chosen. -
Re-posting the article about AIBA corruption;<br><br><br><br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-2016-olympics-boxing-corruption-allegations'>https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-2016-olympics-boxing-corruption-allegations</a> -
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<p>According to Wiki - Hockey is the only Olympic sport India has a good track record in - they've won 11 medals including 8 golds.</p>
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<p>Only other sports they've medaled in are shooting (4 medals, 1 gold), wrestling (4 medals, 0 gold), boxing (2 medals), badminton, weightlifting and tennis (one bronze in each).</p>
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<p>They used to be untouchable in hockey but then the world caught up and passed them.</p> -
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<p>They used to be untouchable in hockey but then the world caught up and passed them.</p>
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<p>Once the pitches became synthetic, if I'm not wrong. Game became so much faster and they didn't have the facilities to keep up</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Immenso Rapido" data-cid="605944" data-time="1471398748"><p>Re-posting the article about AIBA corruption;<br><a class="bbc_url" href="https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-2016-olympics-boxing-corruption-allegations">https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-2016-olympics-boxing-corruption-allegations</a></p></blockquote>
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Wow! Was not aware of any of that. I'm a bit more tolerant of Conlon's outburst having read that. Demonise and isolate the whistleblowers seems to be the usual tactic in these kind of situations. -
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<p>what about gymnastics?</p>
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<p>Apparatus have stricter rules than the artistic gymnastics, but still have a bit of grey area around things like the landing and how many points that deducts.</p>
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<p>Move to real-time computer judging for those things. Make everyone do the same routine/vault/whatever and let the computer decide.</p> -
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<p>Pedant note:<br>
Freestyle is exactly what it means. Use whatever style/stroke you want. The front crawl stroke is the one chosen.</p>
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<p>There you go then - the other events aren't needed.</p> -
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<p>Great to see so many athletes willing to talk to New Zealand media.</p>
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<p>Probably <strike>think they're</strike> mistook them for Australian media :whistle:</p> -
<p>I see Chris Rattue has done a peice for the Aussie papers.......</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/83268704/rio-olympics-2016-australian-media-hang-chokers-tag-on-their-olympians-after-lean-medal-haul'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/83268704/rio-olympics-2016-australian-media-hang-chokers-tag-on-their-olympians-after-lean-medal-haul</a></p> -
The problem with swimming isn't the 4 different strokes.<br><br>
I'm genuinely impressed that Phelps at times is the worlds best at both butterfly and freestyle.<br><br>
The problem is the proliferation of distances, and relays.<br><br>
Having both a 100 free relay and a 200 relay is a joke. <br><br>
A 100 free relay and a 100 medley relay would make sense.<br><br>
As for the individual events. One of the 100 or 200 needs to go. There is too much crossover of athletes IMO.<br><br>
So in my world remove the 200 from each Stoke, plus the 200 relay.<br><br>
Leaving the 50, 100, 400 and 1500.<br><br>
Plus maybe a 100 and 400 medley.
