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The other "minimisation" tactic used in reporting in the UK is to identify the Islamic terrorist by the widest possible brush - his continental ethnic group. In this most recent instance, the man was described as "Asian", as though there was a 80% chance he was Indian. Associations representing Hindus and Sikhs in the UK tend to get very annoyed about this and rightly so.
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I don't see how ignoring the issue of Islamic terrorism is helping moderate Islam at all, there are millions of Muslims living in the west going about who are as repulsed as the rest of us by this bullshit . pretending there's no issue doesn't help them and only helps the nutters who are insisting there's a conspiracy to suppress the truth about Muslims in the west .
That graph with attached sanctimonious nonsense was pretty selective . Ignores the bombings in the states and what's been happening in the stans and Arab world and Israel completely.
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Well, the Mayor of London is Muslim, he was voted in, and he's proving pretty popular.
I have shifted my stance a bit on Islam recently, almost purely because of him.
The problem is with nutjobs, and I'm sick of them being labelled terrorists. As the old saying goes, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter - what fucking bullshit. These fuckers live in countries with freedom.
Sorry, I know I'm not being logical, but I'm sick to fuck of these guys being given any label other than lunatics who would fuck their own mothers. In my eyes terrorism means using un-necessary violence to fight for a cause. And as far as I'm concerned, these fuckers have no cause. One of their own, is the major of one of the worlds 2 true super cities.
They are fucking nutjobs/lunatics/motherfuckers and they deserve absolutely no other title than that.
(I had a beer at lunch)
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@MajorRage said in Ferners in London:
Well, the Mayor of London is Muslim, he was voted in, and he's proving pretty popular.
I have shifted my stance a bit on Islam recently, almost purely because of him.
The problem is with nutjobs, and I'm sick of them being labelled terrorists. As the old saying goes, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter - what fucking bullshit. These fuckers live in countries with freedom.
Sorry, I know I'm not being logical, but I'm sick to fuck of these guys being given any label other than lunatics who would fuck their own mothers. In my eyes terrorism means using un-necessary violence to fight for a cause. And as far as I'm concerned, these fuckers have no cause. One of their own, is the major of one of the worlds 2 true super cities.
They are fucking nutjobs/lunatics/motherfuckers and they deserve absolutely no other title than that.
(I had a beer at lunch)
Him being Muslim is not a problem. He supports Liverpool AFC, now that's a
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@Tregaskis That might not be the case. They have now issued more details. He was born in Kent and his birth name was Adrian Elms. Doesn't sound too Indian. or Asian come to that.
Still, no doubt more will come out in time.
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Apologies if I'm wrong in this instance. I made my comment based on this picture of the perp being treated (see attached).
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@Tregaskis said in Ferners in London:
Apologies if I'm wrong in this instance. I made my comment based on this picture of the perp being treated (see attached).
Maybe, like other ISIS inspired cretins, he is a recent devout convert?
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@Tregaskis said in Ferners in London:
l'm reading Adrian Russell Ajao, then Adrian Elms, then Khalid Masood.
Yep, same source that described his birthname as Elms now says Ajao and has Elms as an alias.
More to come yet.
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@Tregaskis said in Ferners in London:
The other "minimisation" tactic used in reporting in the UK is to identify the Islamic terrorist by the widest possible brush - his continental ethnic group. In this most recent instance, the man was described as "Asian", as though there was a 80% chance he was Indian. Associations representing Hindus and Sikhs in the UK tend to get very annoyed about this and rightly so.
That's not a minimisation tactic that's just the good old British way. They aren't allowed to call foreigners wogs any more so they have progressed to the next identification stage which is to lump people into a general geographic ethnicity. 'Asian' would cover everyone from Pakistan to Indonesia to Mongolia just as all 'Africans' and 'Arabs' are lumped together. South Sea Islanders covers brown people that are not Antipodeans.
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@Catogrande said in Ferners in London:
@NTA Similarly in the UK. The term Asian when used relating to men is generally a catch all for Indians and Pakistanis. Asian when used for women in the term "Asian Babes" is almost exclusively Chinese.
All very confusing.
So you discriminate against Japanese and Thai women when judging 'babeness'?
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@Crucial said in Ferners in London:
@Catogrande said in Ferners in London:
@NTA Similarly in the UK. The term Asian when used relating to men is generally a catch all for Indians and Pakistanis. Asian when used for women in the term "Asian Babes" is almost exclusively Chinese.
All very confusing.
So you discriminate against Japanese and Thai women when judging 'babeness'?
I'd like to say that I have the option of discriminating, but who would I be kidding?
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@Catogrande said in Ferners in London:
@Crucial said in Ferners in London:
@Catogrande said in Ferners in London:
@NTA Similarly in the UK. The term Asian when used relating to men is generally a catch all for Indians and Pakistanis. Asian when used for women in the term "Asian Babes" is almost exclusively Chinese.
All very confusing.
So you discriminate against Japanese and Thai women when judging 'babeness'?
I'd like to say that I have the option of discriminating, but who would I be kidding?
There is always that internet thing as a substitute
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