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@antipodean said in Syria:
@jegga I call bullshit. North Korea has nukes...
Yep. its just bluster and show. The nukes are bad, but possibly worse is the massed artillery. They don't have to nuke Seoul, they can literally just shell it. There is zero option of a limited attack on NK. Its either every B2 in the air force hitting where they think the nukes are and (literally) everything else hitting the artillery, or its nothing.
Its more likley the Chinese will be trying to engineer a coup of some sort. Tho' its likley they've been half doping that for 20 years.
The real problem with Obama's policy was that he wanted to arm the rebels and I believe his administration tried (but mostly failed) to do so. Trump doesn't want to arm the rebels as far as I know.
John McCain desperately wanted to fund the rebels, went batshit at Obama for not doing so. The same McCain who fully supported Ahmed Chalabi as the US's man in Iraq, at a time when all the middle east knew he was an Iranian agent. The US (and McCain especially) has an abysmal record at picking the right horse in the Middle East. Most of Obamas attempts at arming anyone came after McCain had bitched for a year at least & then got blocked by the GOP who McCain couldn't even swing, then the brits shit on it too.
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@antipodean said in Syria:
@Tim He's clearly suffering from dementia. A clear example of age enforced retirement and term limits. In all his public life he's offered absolutely no benefit.
Enforced retirement, yeah right. The typical US lawmaker's career seems to be 20 horny years of getting his johnnie out whenever he comes within 5 metres of a female, followed by another 20 befuddled years of forgetting to tuck it back into his trou.
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Fucking hell Sean Spicer is just an idiot:
Sean Spicer faces backlash after claim: 'Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons'
The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, was widely condemned on Tuesday after claiming that Adolf Hitler, who gassed millions of Jews during the Holocaust, did not not use chemical weapons.
Comparing the Nazi leader with Syria’s Bashar al-Assad, Spicer told journalists during his regular press briefing at the White House: “We didn’t use chemical weapons in world war two. You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons.”
Asked to clarify the remarks, he added: “I think when you come to sarin gas, he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing.”
A reporter in the room shouted that Jews had been targeted. Stuttering and gesticulating, Spicer stumbled on: “Thank you, I appreciate that. There was not in the – he brought them into the Holocaust centres – I understand that. But I’m saying in the way that Assad used them, where he went into towns, dropped them down into the middle of towns.
“So, the use of it, I appreciate the clarification. That was not the intent.”
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Fucking hell Sean Spicer is just an idiot:
Sean Spicer faces backlash after claim: 'Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons'
The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, was widely condemned on Tuesday after claiming that Adolf Hitler, who gassed millions of Jews during the Holocaust, did not not use chemical weapons.
Comparing the Nazi leader with Syria’s Bashar al-Assad, Spicer told journalists during his regular press briefing at the White House: “We didn’t use chemical weapons in world war two. You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons.”
Asked to clarify the remarks, he added: “I think when you come to sarin gas, he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing.”
A reporter in the room shouted that Jews had been targeted. Stuttering and gesticulating, Spicer stumbled on: “Thank you, I appreciate that. There was not in the – he brought them into the Holocaust centres – I understand that. But I’m saying in the way that Assad used them, where he went into towns, dropped them down into the middle of towns.
“So, the use of it, I appreciate the clarification. That was not the intent.”
He should stick to gum in his mouth instead
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Oh fuck off. It was bloody obvious what he meant. Big deal over nothing from the easily offended competitors in the outrage Olympics.
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I'm not outraged but I do think it was an incredibly stupid thing to say. Nor was it immediately obvious what he meant.
Nazi's did use nerve gas on the Eastern frontWhen was that? I thought they never used gas?
I know they used it in WW1.... Quick net check suggests they did not use. Looks like each side was scared that the other would use
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Syria:
Oh fuck off. It was bloody obvious what he meant.
No, it really fucking wasn't. Stupidity of the highest order to even bring Hitler into the discussion.
Slightly funny of course, because people were comparing Trump to Hitler at one point, which made the rightard snowflakes squeal like stuck pigs about the unfairness of it all.
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I'm not outraged but I do think it was an incredibly stupid thing to say. Nor was it immediately obvious what he meant.
Nazi's did use nerve gas on the Eastern frontNo, actually they didnt. So basically you are just wrong, maybe that explains why you dont get his point.
The whole thing is just pathetic. So typical of the outrage culture, this is s pathetically trivial, that if people want to get outraged, it doesn't even register on my radar. A guy says that Assad did something that even Hitler didnt do to his enemies, i.e use chemical weapons.. and people go mental. It is like people cannot see context or connect dots nowadays, much easier to just rant
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Syria:
Oh fuck off. It was bloody obvious what he meant.
No, it really fucking wasn't. Stupidity of the highest order to even bring Hitler into the discussion.
Slightly funny of course, because people were comparing Trump to Hitler at one point, which made the rightard snowflakes squeal like stuck pigs about the unfairness of it all.
Assad used chemical weapons on civilians,... Trump did what? Comparing Trump to Hitler is patently absurd. Do you think comparing a dictator who uses chemical weapons on civilians is not more comparable?
But I will leave you guys to it for awhile, might take a page or 2 for the foaming at the mouth to stop from you lot.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Syria:
I'm not outraged but I do think it was an incredibly stupid thing to say. Nor was it immediately obvious what he meant.
Nazi's did use nerve gas on the Eastern frontNo, actually they didnt. So basically you are just wrong, maybe that explains why you dont get his point.
The whole thing is just pathetic. So typical of the outrage culture, this is s pathetically trivial, that if people want to get outraged, it doesn't even register on my radar. A guy says that Assad did something that even Hitler didnt do to his enemies, i.e use chemical weapons.. and people go mental.
He said “Someone as despicable as Hitler, who didn't even sink to the, to the, to using chemical weapons”. Only after did he clarify what he meant.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Syria:
The whole thing is just pathetic. So typical of the outrage culture, this is s pathetically trivial, that if people want to get outraged, it doesn't even register on my radar.
And here you are, three posts later...
Spicer probably didn't mean anything by it. He doesn't appear to be bright enough to make those connections, or filter anything in his brain:
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I don't think Spicer is a very good press secretary, but I agree with @Baron-Silas-Greenback complete non-story.
Not talking about people on here but it's interesting that the same people that threw out the name Hitler left right and centre during the election campaign are now outraged when Spicer compares Assad, an actual modern day evil dictator to him.
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@No-Quarter said in Syria:
I don't think Spicer is a very good press secretary, but I agree with @Baron-Silas-Greenback complete non-story.
Not talking about people on here but it's interesting that the same people that threw out the name Hitler left right and centre during the election campaign are now outraged when Spicer compares Assad, an actual modern day evil dictator to him.
How much outrage has there been (legit question)? Surely it can't be as bad as the first couple of weeks post result when people's heads were almost exploding
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