Coronavirus - New Zealand
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A bunch of Auckland schools have been linked to Coronavirus, which is completely unsurprising.
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Looks like we will be effectively shut down as of now. Along with most dental practices in NZ. A big shout out to all of you non-compliant fluffybunnies in the country (none of whom probably read this website), if it wasn't for you all not doing what you were told about self isolation and distancing we'd still be operational.
Don't get toothache for the next couple of weeks to months or you are farked -
Ireland calculated the increase rate as 30 % per day. NZ went from 52 to 66 = roughly 30 % increase. Expect 85 to 90 cases total tomorrow, 115 the day after, 150 the day after that and about 325 after 1 week and 2000 after 2 weeks. Don't think the "level 2" plan will work myself.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Looks like we will be effectively shut down as of now. Along with most dental practices in NZ. A big shout out to all of you non-compliant fluffybunnies in the country (none of whom probably read this website), if it wasn't for you all not doing what you were told about self isolation and distancing we'd still be operational.
Don't get toothache for the next couple of weeks to months or you are farkedThat is actually a big fucking worry. Toothaches are fuckin horrible.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Looks like we will be effectively shut down as of now. Along with most dental practices in NZ. A big shout out to all of you non-compliant fluffybunnies in the country (none of whom probably read this website), if it wasn't for you all not doing what you were told about self isolation and distancing we'd still be operational.
Don't get toothache for the next couple of weeks to months or you are farkedThat is actually a big fucking worry. Toothaches are fuckin horrible.
And infected ones can kill you. Even a chipped tooth rubbing on your tongue gets soul destroying really fast
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12318897
That farken does it, now I'm getting mad!!!!
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@voodoo "It's not hyperbolic to say we have only hours to prevent the inevitable horrors we see in countries that waited too long.
Actually it is hyperbolic
As Kirwan said the government has a difficult (probably impossible) balancing act to try and pull off.
Impossible because not only do they have economic and health issues to deal with but also panic merchants and blasé naysayers.
The people deciding policy at the moment seem to be doing a reasonably good job of trying to do exactly this. I'm pretty sure we will lose control in NZ at some stage because the population won't accept the sort of measures enacted in East Asia (yet) but by and large the government have kept the general population on board.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo "It's not hyperbolic to say we have only hours to prevent the inevitable horrors we see in countries that waited too long.
Actually it is hyperbolic
As Kirwan said the government has a difficult (probably impossible) balancing act to try and pull off.
Impossible because not only do they have economic and health issues to deal with but also panic merchants and blasé naysayers.
The people deciding policy at the moment seem to be doing a reasonably good job of trying to do exactly this. I'm pretty sure we will lose control in NZ at some stage because the population won't accept the sort of measures enacted in East Asia (yet) but by and large the government have kept the general population on board.
The MoH and the NZ Dental Council has strongly recommended that all dental practices in NZ stop routine procedures and anything which creates aerosols. Which is basically everything. This has happened because despite the government asking people to be responsible at our borders and within, to practice self isolation and distancing, we have failed to do so. No one knows how long we will be out but it could be a while. All non essential medical surgeries are being shelved for the foreseeable future. Businesses and schools will soon close. Doctors on the front line are calling for an immediate lockdown. I say it's time to do the hard thing and shut it down. The longer we wait will prolong the pain. People need to be saved from themselves and realise this shit is real
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I was thinking about Dental yesterday. Not surprised by that recommendation based on my experiences with plaque removal
Some Doctors on the front line are calling for an immediate lockdown. Just as many are furious at the petition.
I'm not sure a GP has that much more bonafides than the average joe TBH. Yes they will be far more involved but how current and deep is their understanding of the epidemiology of coronavirus.
Doctors can be spooked just as much as the next toilet roll hoarder
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@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Social media and mainstream media this morning seems to be a contest of who can shout "shut everything down yesterday" the loudest.
I will assume they will also insist that all teachers stay on full pay for the duration and therefore feel no financial pain at all?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Social media and mainstream media this morning seems to be a contest of who can shout "shut everything down yesterday" the loudest.
I will assume they will also insist that all teachers stay on full pay for the duration and therefore feel no financial pain at all?
That was the government measure in the economic package, so presumably. I'd suggest just moving the holidays if closing now, and sorting out online lessons in the time off, and then teaching that way until this blows over.
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Social media and mainstream media this morning seems to be a contest of who can shout "shut everything down yesterday" the loudest.
I will assume they will also insist that all teachers stay on full pay for the duration and therefore feel no financial pain at all?
That was the government measure in the economic package, so presumably. I'd suggest just moving the holidays if closing now, and sorting out online lessons in the time off, and then teaching that way until this blows over.
Cool so the teachers get full pay whilst demanding others (mainly low earners) are financially decimated ASAP. Typical middle class piston wristed gibbons.
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looks like plenty of parents have already taken kids out of school with less kids floating around this morning, roads were like school holidays.
@Baron-Silas-Greenback while on one hand you need money to keep flowing around, I get where you are coming from...I know a couple who are both teachers, so for them, it'll be like extended school holidays.
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Would like to hear from an expert where we cross the line from preventing deaths from the virus, to causing deaths from economic collapse.
I sincerely hope that’s part of the advice the Government is getting because I’m starting to get super worried about “after”.
Lockdown is necessary, but it has to be a lockdown with a plan.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The MoH and the NZ Dental Council has strongly recommended that all dental practices in NZ stop routine procedures and anything which creates aerosols
My mate who is a dentist here in Oz has lost all three of his jobs. He worked at two practices and taught at the dental school. He does the clinic stuff at the school so he's been let go from there whereas most of the others do a mix of lectures and clinic so will still be teaching online.
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True-love got completely cleaned up by one of our horses yesterday, to the point that I thought she had broken her Femur. She refused to go to A&E despite the horrific pain.
That pain, apparently, is less than the pain today where I told her I was working from home for the foreseeable future.
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2 of the ladies form work went to grab coffee from the little shop down the road, they havd to sign in, provide contact details and declare they had been in NZ last 14+ days and to best of knowledge not been in contact with anyone who might be infected.
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@Kirwan yep, I've been pretty worried about this over the last couple of weeks.
My own job is fairly secure for the short and medium term but a lot of my friends and family aren't lucky enough to be in that position.
The potential economic ramifications from this could (if not already) be catastrophic. I would hate to have to be the one to make the decision but when do we make the call to reopen.