Coronavirus - Overall
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@Rapido said in Coronavirus - Overall:
But in saying all that. I do have a hunch that UK counts more vigorously/generously, accurately/inaccurately than it's big western Europe peers of Framce, Spain, Italy.
Who does or doesn't count rest homes, for starters.
Well, they’re already in the departure lounge of God’s waiting room so why bother?
Probably.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Rapido To get a truer picture I’d like to see the graph for number of tests administered overlaid on those figures.
a tidy graph of the 3 countries.
But, is data up to week old. -
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Covid has confirmed one thing. That the current "age" being known as the "information age" is the biggest misdemeanour of our time.
Yes, there is a lot of information. But it seems 90%+ of the information is either bullshit, opinion or statistically misleading. It seems the more we know, the stupider we are.
Misdemeanour? Misnomer? Anyway you are correct. Perhaps "bullshit information age" would be better.
All of the Covid numbers are so distorted by testing ratios and suspect government figures as to be meaningless.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Covid has confirmed one thing. That the current "age" being known as the "information age" is the biggest misdemeanour of our time.
Yes, there is a lot of information. But it seems 90%+ of the information is either bullshit, opinion or statistically misleading. It seems the more we know, the stupider we are.
Misdemeanour? Misnomer? Anyway you are correct. Perhaps "bullshit information age" would be better.
All of the Covid numbers are so distorted by testing ratios and suspect government figures as to be meaningless.
The good thing about this age is we can (still) find this out. Whereas before lies became accepted truths.
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Covid has confirmed one thing. That the current "age" being known as the "information age" is the biggest misdemeanour of our time.
Yes, there is a lot of information. But it seems 90%+ of the information is either bullshit, opinion or statistically misleading. It seems the more we know, the stupider we are.
Misdemeanour? Misnomer? Anyway you are correct. Perhaps "bullshit information age" would be better.
All of the Covid numbers are so distorted by testing ratios and suspect government figures as to be meaningless.
The good thing about this age is we can (still) find this out. Whereas before lies became accepted truths.
You haven't heard of Facebook or Twitter?
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@antipodean The irony was it was @Winger who made that comment
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Maybe Trump was right about hydroxychloroquine. And Fauci and co wrong
But this is the great thing about the information age. People can be exposed to both sides. Sadly many still refuse to embrace the challenge of researching a topic and then thinking for themselves. But more and more are.
The latest international testing of hydroxychloroquine treatment of coronavirus shows countries that had early use of the drug had a 79% lower mortality rate than countries that banned the use of the safe malaria drug. This means that Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, the CDC, the liberal fake news media and the tech giants have been pushing a lie that has had deadly consequences!
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Maybe Trump was right about hydroxychloroquine. And Fauci and co wrong
But this is the great thing about the information age. People can be exposed to both sides. Sadly many still refuse to embrace the challenge of researching a topic and then thinking for themselves. But more and more are.
The latest international testing of hydroxychloroquine treatment of coronavirus shows countries that had early use of the drug had a 79% lower mortality rate than countries that banned the use of the safe malaria drug. This means that Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, the CDC, the liberal fake news media and the tech giants have been pushing a lie that has had deadly consequences!
Can you please at least try to post evidence from a study in a recognized medical journal? Or an article that quotes directly from a recognized journal? I clicked on that link and instantly had one of those roll my eyes moments
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Covid has confirmed one thing. That the current "age" being known as the "information age" is the biggest misdemeanour of our time.
Yes, there is a lot of information. But it seems 90%+ of the information is either bullshit, opinion or statistically misleading. It seems the more we know, the stupider we are.
Misdemeanour? Misnomer? Anyway you are correct. Perhaps "bullshit information age" would be better.
All of the Covid numbers are so distorted by testing ratios and suspect government figures as to be meaningless.
The good thing about this age is we can (still) find this out. Whereas before lies became accepted truths.
Perhaps a better way of putting it would be “that we can still keep digging until we find something that agrees with our own view and then present that as evidence”.
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Maybe Trump was right about hydroxychloroquine. And Fauci and co wrong
But this is the great thing about the information age. People can be exposed to both sides. Sadly many still refuse to embrace the challenge of researching a topic and then thinking for themselves. But more and more are.
The latest international testing of hydroxychloroquine treatment of coronavirus shows countries that had early use of the drug had a 79% lower mortality rate than countries that banned the use of the safe malaria drug. This means that Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, the CDC, the liberal fake news media and the tech giants have been pushing a lie that has had deadly consequences!
Can you please explain why anyone would want to bury an effective treatment for a deadly disease?
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo Money and control booboo. Money and control. The sooner you wake up and realise this the better.
Don't be one of the sheeple. Dig deeper, the truth is hidden but its out there
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo Money and control booboo. Money and control. The sooner you wake up and realise this the better.
Don't be one of the sheeple. Dig deeper, the truth is hidden but its out there
You know that. I know that. @booboo needs to educate himself.
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So, this is very topical.
Recount about to happen.Academics found Public Health England's methods meant ministers count victims as anyone who died after ever testing positive for Covid-19 — even if they were hit by a bus after beating the disease months later.
It would've meant that, technically, no-one could ever recover from the virus and all 265,000 of England's confirmed patients would eventually have had their deaths attributed to the disease.
The blunder could see up to 4,000 deaths removed from England's official toll of 41,749, according to reports. One of the leading experts who uncovered the flaw told MailOnline his 'best guess' was that more than 1,000 people have had their deaths wrongly recorded as caused by Covid-19.
Mr Hancock is set to bring the figures in line with Scotland and Northern Ireland, which only attribute deaths to Covid-19 if it occurs within a month of their diagnosis.
The Health Secretary is expected to announce the new measurement by the end of the week following the two-week review into the counting fiasco.
The statistical flaw was uncovered by Oxford University's Professor Carl Heneghan and Dr Yoon Loke, from the University of East Anglia.
Professor Heneghan, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the prestigious university, told the Sun: 'It is a sensible decision. There is no point attributing deaths to Covid 28 days after infection.
So, going back to the conversation a page or so ago. I think I was misunderstanding the 'mentioned on death certificate ' statistics . That stat is more likely covering people presumed to have died of covid but no test done?
Rather than people who have died, who had covid, but covid wasn't cause of death. Which is what I presumed it covered.
Could, look it up I guess ...
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo Money and control booboo. Money and control. The sooner you wake up and realise this the better.
Don't be one of the sheeple. Dig deeper, the truth is hidden but its out there
You know that. I know that. @booboo needs to educate himself.
A cure for a deadly disease that people will make money out of?
Nup. Still don't get it.
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo Money and control booboo. Money and control. The sooner you wake up and realise this the better.
Don't be one of the sheeple. Dig deeper, the truth is hidden but its out there
You know that. I know that. @booboo needs to educate himself.
A cure for a deadly disease that people will make money out of?
Nup. Still don't get it.
Sharpen up
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo Money and control booboo. Money and control. The sooner you wake up and realise this the better.
Don't be one of the sheeple. Dig deeper, the truth is hidden but its out there
You know that. I know that. @booboo needs to educate himself.
A cure for a deadly disease that people will make money out of?
Nup. Still don't get it.
Sharpen up
Ummm ...