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@NTA said in NZ Politics:
Just saw a clip of someone called Tova O'Brien interview a taking forehead by the name of Jami-Lee* Ross. Christ she didn't miss. Is that common?
*Seriously think that's a stripper name.
Not that common but he has been a festering stain for the last 2 years and is a particularly reviled politician (which is saying something). He deserved everything he got.
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@Smudge said in NZ Politics:
@NTA said in NZ Politics:
Just saw a clip of someone called Tova O'Brien interview a taking forehead by the name of Jami-Lee* Ross. Christ she didn't miss. Is that common?
*Seriously think that's a stripper name.
Not that common but he has been a festering stain for the last 2 years and is a particularly reviled politician (which is saying something). He deserved everything he got.
She seemed pretty amused.
I assume he's a conservative so would be loved by our Murdoch media.
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Really interested in the make-up of the Labour cabinet.
Without in any way buying into National's "Great Team" strategy I do think Labour's 17-20 caucus was light on talent and Cindy seemed to only trust 3-4 to do the heavy lifting. I appreciate every government has an inner sanctum of trusted lieutenants but this seemed particularly true of the last three years.
Asking a lot for a brand new politician to step up into a cabinet post but what alternatives are there? Some positions for Greens under a supply and confidence agreement? @Godder ??
Going to be a very interesting three years. Hope Labour really intend to be transformational and don't do a John Key and avoid doing anything that might be in any way unpopular. Lots of MP's to keep happy after the initial euphoria wears off. How will National rebuild? Can Seymour control a caucus especially a caucus that have differing agendas? How will Rawiri Taititi go as a lone MP (assuming Debbie Rawera-Packer doesn't make it) Fascinating stuff
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Hope Labour really intend to be transformational and don't do a John Key and avoid doing anything that might be in any way unpopular.
MMP drives incrementalism, and not being wedded to any particular action, particularly unpopular ones. You saw that with Key's National - anything that started to get a groundswell of opposition got ditched... mining on conservation land springs to mind.
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@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Hope Labour really intend to be transformational and don't do a John Key and avoid doing anything that might be in any way unpopular.
MMP drives incrementalism, and not being wedded to any particular action, particularly unpopular ones. You saw that with Key's National - anything that started to get a groundswell of opposition got ditched... mining on conservation land springs to mind.
Which is why I cant understand the doom and gloom from some.
A big majority may provide a feeling of mandate but the reality is that there's no difference in having a 20 seat majority to a 5 seat one. -
Now if Labour really do want to 'govern for all of NZ' they would immediately set up a think tank group with all parties to gather ideas and preferences before making decisions that affect us all.
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@NTA he was a bully and got embroiled in trying to blackmail the then leader of his party. I can't trust someone who has been in local council or national office since he left high school
Should have stuck to being a stripper.
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@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Hope Labour really intend to be transformational and don't do a John Key and avoid doing anything that might be in any way unpopular.
MMP drives incrementalism, and not being wedded to any particular action, particularly unpopular ones. You saw that with Key's National - anything that started to get a groundswell of opposition got ditched... mining on conservation land springs to mind.
Which is why I cant understand the doom and gloom from some.
A big majority may provide a feeling of mandate but the reality is that there's no difference in having a 20 seat majority to a 5 seat one.I'm not sure about the doom and gloom level. People just seem to be getting on now. It will be quite the contrast to the fall out either way in the US presidential election
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@NTA said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@NTA he was a bully and got embroiled in trying to blackmail the then leader of his party. I can't trust someone who has been in local council or national office since he left high school
Should have stuck to being a stripper.
His final move was to join an antivaxxer and conspiracy theory party. If I didn't know better Jamie Lee could be @winger.....
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@NTA said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
Jamie Lee
ahem Jami-Lee please. Let's observe strip club ethics.
He was MP in the electorate where I work. Something about the name never really felt right. And the fact that he looked like a big ogre
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The way the Internet (and Americans) are jizzing over that interview is actually making me nauseous. I find JLR repulsive in every way, but come on, Tova was Ali fighting a great grandpa with two hip replacements and a glass eye.
I'll sit up and take note when she interviews someone in Parliament for the next three years like that. Someone she needs access to. Someone with actual power, rather than a chump with legal issues.
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@Mokey from memory she has had her moments with Winnie.
He deserved to be eviscerated imo. Absolutely made a calculated decision to latch on to Advance and give them oxygen - and he no more believes the shit they peddle than most of us do.
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@Paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@Mokey from memory she has had her moments with Winnie.
He deserved to be eviscerated imo. Absolutely made a calculated decision to latch on to Advance and give them oxygen - and he no more believes the shit they peddle than most of us do.
Had a fun little interview with Brownlee yesterday too. Was all in fun, she seems pretty sharp anyways
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Forgot to congratulate you all on locking in economic decline and poor public policy for the foreseeable future. Well done.
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@antipodean said in NZ Politics:
Forgot to congratulate you all on locking in economic decline and poor public policy for the foreseeable future. Well done.
Don't thank me!!!!!!!!!!!
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@antipodean said in NZ Politics:
Forgot to congratulate you all on locking in economic decline and poor public policy for the foreseeable future. Well done.
see you back here in 3 years - if Labour deliver anything other than moderate, incremental changes I shall be flabbergasted. What we have is continuity and a clear mandate to keep moving forward (oof)
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@antipodean continuing on with what has served us so well for sixty years now....
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