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@Crucial said in US Politics:
Just watched that press conference. If nothing else it shows why the man is not fit for office.
To stand there as the 'leader of the free world' and tell a pack of lies (not even couched in terms of possibility) that undermines the faith and standing the country as protectors of democracy is just mind boggling.
After 4 years I still can't make my mind up how much is deliberte and how much is because he is thick and fails to even try and understand basic information.The examples he used were extremes and most of his statements were clear lies that won't even pass the sniff test of going to court.
That’s what we get for having an “outsider” President. As crazy as his talk is, guaranteed large swathes of this country literally believe everything that comes out of his mouth. He has damaged the democratic process for decades to come.
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@ACT-Crusader said in US Politics:
Why, so Twitter and Facebook can ‘censure’ them?
More in terms of the conduct of the Trump family and cronies now versus litigation they may face once he's out of office.
Not that I think much will come of it, as the rich tend to get away with stuff, and he's banked a fair bit since Trump Resorts became the venue-of-choice for government shindigs.
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@Rapido said in US Politics:
But, thinking it is bad precedent, to chase those too hard after they leave office. In case it incentives someone one day to decide they wont leave office, if it is safer for them and family to stay in at all costs.
I don't think anyone can overturn the 2-term maximum but who knows?
Your point is valid tho, in terms of prosecution post-office. That seems unlikely as the GOP will still hold a fair bit of power and might make that a negotiating point with the Dems.
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@DMX said in US Politics:
That’s what we get for having an “outsider” President. As crazy as his talk is, guaranteed large swathes of this country literally believe everything that comes out of his mouth. He has damaged the democratic process for decades to come.
It is basically a win-win for Trump. Even if ardent supporters find themselves no better off under him than Obama, he's got a conga line of targets for them to blame. Mexicans, immigrants, Muslims, Democrats.... Immigrant Mexican Muslim Democrats...
Yuge.
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@NTA said in US Politics:
@ACT-Crusader said in US Politics:
Why, so Twitter and Facebook can ‘censure’ them?
More in terms of the conduct of the Trump family and cronies now versus litigation they may face once he's out of office.
Not that I think much will come of it, as the rich tend to get away with stuff, and he's banked a fair bit since Trump Resorts became the venue-of-choice for government shindigs.
I recall reading somewhere that while some Trump Resort revenues had increased others had taken big hits and were effectively being subsidised. Overall picture is another Trump business failure that will be great for tax purposes but not so much for empire building.
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@NTA said in US Politics:
@DMX said in US Politics:
That’s what we get for having an “outsider” President. As crazy as his talk is, guaranteed large swathes of this country literally believe everything that comes out of his mouth. He has damaged the democratic process for decades to come.
It is basically a win-win for Trump. Even if ardent supporters find themselves no better off under him than Obama, he's got a conga line of targets for them to blame. Mexicans, immigrants, Muslims, Democrats.... Immigrant Mexican Muslim Democrats...
Yuge.
Not to mention people that had the audacity to not see how great he is and voted for that other guy. They're the worst. Some say the worst ever.
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@NTA said in US Politics:
@Rapido said in US Politics:
But, thinking it is bad precedent, to chase those too hard after they leave office. In case it incentives someone one day to decide they wont leave office, if it is safer for them and family to stay in at all costs.
I don't think anyone can overturn the 2-term maximum but who knows?
Your point is valid tho, in terms of prosecution post-office. That seems unlikely as the GOP will still hold a fair bit of power and might make that a negotiating point with the Dems.
I can't see the term limits being changed, constitutional amendments are very difficult to pass as they require 3/4 of state legislatures to vote in favour.
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@Crucial said in US Politics:
In PA Trumps lead has shrunk further but I'm expecting him to just scrape in with Biden being 10k short.
Trump must have cheated I guess.Actually I may have miscalculated here. According to the numbers I am looking at Biden will make the deficit in Philly alone. He has plenty to come from Delaware County (currently 67%)
Maybe he was the cheat? To hard to tell.
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@Crucial Yeah Biden is going to win PA, if the current trends continue:
If Biden continues to take 76% of the mail-in votes, he will poll about 160,000 of the remaining 215,000, which will give him more than enough to erase the 53,000 vote deficit.
And there seems to be other votes from Philly and surrounds still to come in, too.
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@Virgil said in US Politics:
More and more are calling out the fact that most of the mail in votes are Dems because Trump told his followers over and over and over not to vote that way.
At a loss to how anyone can defend his actions at the moment.
And the fact that the Dems clearly were much more concerned about the pandemic and as such avoided in-person voting in favour of a mail-in option. A small child can see why things are unfolding the way they are.
If the outstanding states counted their votes like Florida (pre the closing of polls on Tuesday) then this would all look very different.
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@Virgil said in US Politics:
I see here in little ole NZ after the final counts and tallies that Labour have gained 2 seats off National
I’m expecting Judith to do a press conference very soon where she declares it’s all been one big fraud and the Nats were cheated out of a winThere's a bit of chatter about it on social media unfortunately, has been since election day.
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