50 Years of Star Trek - RIP



  • Happy anniversary, fellas.

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  • They've been playing the movies all week here. Not sure which is my favourite, Khan or The Undiscovered Country



  • Khan fo sho



  • What a bunch of geeks you all are, I'll tell you now you won't catch me obsessing over sci fi like you virgins.



  • I take a break as you boys are all too busy smashing BOD for nothing in particular and I come back to see you are talking about Star Trek.

    Lost. For. Words.



  • @MajorRage all?

    Star Trek suuucks!



  • Star Trek's goofy charm > wannabe pom BOD/Stephen Jones apologists.

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  • I watched about as much of the original Trek movie as I could stomach last night. It was just as I remembered it.

    A director getting all jismy over long lingering pan shots of his kitset plastic USS Enterprise for the first ten minutes of the movie didn't do it for me 36 years ago and the passage of time has only made it worse.

    Still not as portentous as that other space opera franchise though.

    Always have preferred the TV series. Stretching the format to 90-100 minutes is a parsec too far I reckon.



  • Like TNG, the movies got a lot better once Roddenberry lost control. He was much better at world building than drama.



  • I thought the problem was Shatner's direction?



  • @dogmeat said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    I watched about as much of the original Trek movie as I could stomach last night. It was just as I remembered it.

    A director getting all jismy over long lingering pan shots of his kitset plastic USS Enterprise for the first ten minutes of the movie didn't do it for me 36 years ago and the passage of time has only made it worse.

    Still not as portentous as that other space opera franchise though.

    Always have preferred the TV series. Stretching the format to 90-100 minutes is a parsec too far I reckon.

    It was really just a pilot for a new TV show that they converted to a feature - so that probably explains the long pan shots as trying to fill up time.

    Anyway, best to pretend is doesn't exist and just start from Khan.



  • @antipodean said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    I thought the problem was Shatner's direction?

    That was - shudders - V: The Final Frontier. Shatner insisted that he direct one, because Nimoy had already done so.



  • Shatners direction was fine, he just ran out of money.

    And I really enjoyed the first movie, was a great sci fi story. It badly needed editing, but if I remember correctly they got the special effects late so just chucked them all in as they got them. That's why there was all those long never ending shots.



  • Remind me again, is Star Trek the one where they wear their pyjamas?



  • What do the hardcore Trekkies think of the new films? When I saw the 2nd new film I could just imagine the screams when the dude announced his name was Khan.

    When I was a kid I had the Wrath of Khan on one of those book + cassette things (when you hear this sound turn the page). Must have listened/read it dozens of times, but never actually saw the film.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    What do the hardcore Trekkies think of the new films? When I saw the 2nd new film I could just imagine the screams when the dude announced his name was Khan.

    When I was a kid I had the Wrath of Khan on one of those book + cassette things (when you hear this sound turn the page). Must have listened/read it dozens of times, but never actually saw the film.

    They are disposable garbage. Shit.

    Apparently the latest one is OK, but I would doubt it.



  • @Tim

    Ha ha. Thought as much. I guess you can at least be thankful they didn't remake Captain Kirk into a girl or Spock as a transgender person.



  • @Nepia said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    @dogmeat said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    I watched about as much of the original Trek movie as I could stomach last night. It was just as I remembered it.

    A director getting all jismy over long lingering pan shots of his kitset plastic USS Enterprise for the first ten minutes of the movie didn't do it for me 36 years ago and the passage of time has only made it worse.

    Still not as portentous as that other space opera franchise though.

    Always have preferred the TV series. Stretching the format to 90-100 minutes is a parsec too far I reckon.

    It was really just a pilot for a new TV show that they converted to a feature - so that probably explains the long pan shots as trying to fill up time.

    Anyway, best to pretend is doesn't exist and just start from Khan.

    The long pan shot was a pathetic attempt to emulate the classic opening to SW. When SW came out in the 70s that was the most amazing thing seen. I still remember the whole cinema making incremental gasps of excitement as that star destroyer grew and grew.







  • @Crucial I must have gone to a different session coz all I remember is laughing my arse off at the tweeness of it all



  • Bryan Fuller Stepping Back From Showrunner Role on ‘Star Trek: Discovery’

    Bryan Fuller is stepping back from the showrunner role of CBS’ “Star Trek: Discovery” as he juggles production responsibilities on two other series, Variety has learned exclusively.

    The decision was made late last week to hand the day-to-day showrunning reins to “Star Trek” exec producers Gretchen Berg and Aaron Harberts as “Discovery” gears up for the start of filming next month and a May 2017 premiere date. Fuller, who will remain an executive producer, will still be involved in breaking stories, and the show will continue to follow his vision for the universe that this latest “Trek” series will inhabit. Writer-director Akiva Goldsman is also expected to join “Discovery” in a top creative role. He’s envisioned as serving as producing support for Berg and Harberts, Fuller and exec producer Alex Kurtzman as they juggle the demands of the series that CBS is counting on to be the marquee selling point for subscriptions to its CBS All Access SVOD service.

    Sources said there had been some strain between “Star Trek” producer CBS Television Studios and Fuller over the progress of production on the show, as Fuller is also juggling the final weeks of shooting and post-production duties on Starz’s upcoming drama “American Gods” and prepping a reboot of “Amazing Stories” for NBC. Fuller has penned the first two scripts for “Discovery” and has hammered out the broader story arc and mythology for the new “Trek” realm. But it became clear that he couldn’t devote the amount of time needed for “Discovery” to make its premiere date and with production scheduled to start in Toronto next month. In September, CBS pushed the “Discovery” premiere back from January to May in order to give the team more time to work out stories and ensure sufficient time for production of visual effects.

    Fuller had also confirmed during the press tour session that the lead character of “Discovery” would be a woman. Although no casting has been announced, sources say most of the other roles on the show have been filled. The lead character has proven a far tougher assignment.

    Air date for the pilot delayed three months. Production begins next month and they haven't cast the lead actor. Now the showrunner is out. Sounds pretty, pretty bad for this production.

    No wonder there haven't been the usual "leaks" and teasers to keep the hype going.



  • Something similar happened on Voyager too, the original captain filmed one episode and they canned her and re-cast.



  • Yeah, Genevieve Bujold. Good actress, but miscast.

    Didn't turn out well for Voyager though. The two seasons were mostly unwatchable, and Mulgrew was pretty bad.



  • @Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    Yeah, Genevieve Bujold. Good actress, but miscast.

    Didn't turn out well for Voyager though. The two seasons were mostly unwatchable, and Mulgrew was pretty bad.

    It was a weird show, for sure. But I didn't like DS9 either.



  • @Kirwan You should give DS9 another shot. The first season is a bit rough, but the series is probably the best of the Treks.



  • @Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    @Kirwan You should give DS9 another shot. The first season is a bit rough, but the series is probably the best of the Treks.

    I dipped in and out of it. I never liked the idea of it being on a space station, not much of a "trek" there. That's what disappointed me about the last film, they skipped over the five year mission! That's what I wanted to see.



  • They actually do quite a bit of exploring eventually, and get the federation into a lot of trouble.



  • @Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    They actually do quite a bit of exploring eventually, and get the federation into a lot of trouble.

    One of things that always amused me is the compulsory casting in those Star Trek spinoffs of actors from Benson.

    How's that for "you're old" reference?



  • @Tim I really enjoyed it - apart from the shapeshifting sheriff dude and the attendant mysticism

    Quite a bit darker than other Trek series and examines deeper themes. Lots of politics, betrayals plus some kick arse adversaries.



  • Michelle Yeoh has joined the cast of Star Trek Discovery.

    http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/788489-michelle-yeoh-star-trek-discovery



  • @Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    @Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    They actually do quite a bit of exploring eventually, and get the federation into a lot of trouble.

    One of things that always amused me is the compulsory casting in those Star Trek spinoffs of actors from Benson.

    How's that for "you're old" reference?

    27 days late but..
    I felt the same about DS9 ...i got the same vibe as you. but a couple of seasons in and it became one of my favorite in the series. It really has a quality big 'arc'



  • Trailers for the new TV show are out. Looks like it will be following the fine Trek tradition of taking a couple of seasons to find its feet ...

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  • @Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:

    Trailers for the new TV show are out. Looks like it will be following the fine Trek tradition of taking a couple of seasons to find its feet ...

    US trailer:

    UK trailer:

    Looks like they are trying to tick all of the social justice boxes.





  • Dissapointed that the Klingons look like the STNG version, not the version from the original series

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  • Haven't read the entire thread (or remember it) so if anyone has posted this apologies for the re-post.


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