Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......



  • Unsure if it deserves its own thread and whether it has been discussed already, but does the Fern think his chances are of being good enough to be picked and Hansen picking him.



  • He only has to be better than SBW in my opinion.... csnt be too hard



  • He sure as hell is a nice insurance policy.
    If you did a risk log on the RWC you would have both SBW and Crotty as high likelihood, medium impact red risks of not making it through injury. Mitigation is Nonu.



  • Hard to say when most of us haven't seen him play yet this year. But if he still has it and is one of the top four centres in NZ, then he absolutely has to be selected.



  • @Crucial said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    He sure as hell is a nice insurance policy.
    If you did a risk log on the RWC you would have both SBW and Crotty as high likelihood, medium impact red risks of not making it through injury. Mitigation is Nonu.

    Yep, at any given time one of those two will be out. Be good to have another senior guy who could just step in at a RWC if needed (assuming his form is good of course).



  • Im tipping his super rugby form will cause all sorts of debate in regards to his selection ,

    remembering his super rugby form used to be a massive talking point during his peak



  • Let's hope that the Blues 9 & 10 can get him some ball to see how he's going.

    Having SBW and Nonu both available will cause some headaches selection wise though as you don't want to keep playing mix and match in the centres.



  • It's tough to say because injuries will likely play a big part in the selection in the midfield.

    Assuming everyone is fit I think he needs to either SBW or Crotty's spot.



  • The Blues have co-captains (Gibson and Tuipulotu) and they also have a vice captain in the backs - SBW

    Thats suggests MacDonald is planning on picking SBW when everyone is available



  • If Nonu still has wheels at 37 then it will come down to the service from Aaron & Beauden.

    Ma’a ma’a black streak have you any ball?



  • I'm pleased that he has the ABs as a goal, he might put in an effort for the Blues this time. I can't see him making it though. Surely at 37 he'll be as injury prone as SBE or Crotty?


  • Banned

    How well has he been playing in France?



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel never heard any negatives and those team owners aren't shy expressing dissatisfaction with their star imports. Also caught reports that he's in awesome shape so that's a really good sign. Maybe all that yoga paid off!!
    The thing I like the most is that he knows his rep ain't enough, well at least to snare a starting spot. I don't see him wanting to diminish his AB legacy by getting in without compelling form and kicking ass on the way.
    Hope this lights a fire for SBW and others in the mix. On for young and old(er)!!!


  • Banned

    @Paekakboyz said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel never heard any negatives and those team owners aren't shy expressing dissatisfaction with their star imports. Also caught reports that he's in awesome shape so that's a really good sign. Maybe all that yoga paid off!!
    The thing I like the most is that he knows his rep ain't enough, well at least to snare a starting spot. I don't see him wanting to diminish his AB legacy by getting in without compelling form and kicking ass on the way.
    Hope this lights a fire for SBW and others in the mix. On for young and old(er)!!!

    Yeah I hope his mere presence in NZ will make a difference. That is often lamented as the one thing NZ has lost with players going overseas, i. e. the wise old heads imparting their knowledge on the youngsters. Personally I'd prefer to cast 2015 Nonu in stone, but if he's still got it then it would be great to have him. The midfield is a huge concern.



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  • I’m more interested in how much time he’ll get at the Blues. I see him as a bench option that has the odd start here or there.

    If he plays the impact player role then that might be attractive to the ABs, but then again I reckon ALB plays that part pretty well.



  • @ACT-Crusader said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    I’m more interested in how much time he’ll get at the Blues. I see him as a bench option that has the odd start here or there.

    If he plays the impact player role then that might be attractive to the ABs, but then again I reckon ALB plays that part pretty well.

    cough shouldbestarting cough



  • @ACT-Crusader said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    I’m more interested in how much time he’ll get at the Blues. I see him as a bench option that has the odd start here or there.

    If he plays the impact player role then that might be attractive to the ABs, but then again I reckon ALB plays that part pretty well.

    Nonu might well be seeing plenty of time at 13 for the Blues - there's not a lot of 13 experience for the Blues when you factor in that they are committing to playing Rieko on the wing. Nonu, Aumua and Tele'a look to be the 13 options with the latter two having limited to zero Super Rugby experience.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    The midfield is a huge concern.

    it fucking wouldn't be if the coaches picked the two best guys and played them more.

    or, you know, we could keep chopping and changing every test, and keep trying to start two guys who can't string 2 halves of rugby together, let alone two consecutive games.

    And that's before you start talking about the game management from 10...



  • @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    The midfield is a huge concern.

    it fucking wouldn't be if the coaches picked the two best guys and played them more.

    or, you know, we could keep chopping and changing every test, and keep trying to start two guys who can't string 2 halves of rugby together, let alone two consecutive games.

    And that's before you start talking about the game management from 10...

    As long as SBW takes all the time he needs to get back to form and fitness we'll be fine.



  • @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    The midfield is a huge concern.

    it fucking wouldn't be if the coaches picked the two best guys and played them more.

    or, you know, we could keep chopping and changing every test, and keep trying to start two guys who can't string 2 halves of rugby together, let alone two consecutive games.

    And that's before you start talking about the game management from 10...

    Let's not go blaming the backs for the inability of the forwards to set a reasonable platform.



  • @mariner4life it does suck that Crotty is so brittle, as when he's healthy he's bloody good. But I like ALB paired with goodhue, they just haven't had enough time together imo. Laumape will have to show a lot of development to push for more starting minutes, then there's SBW as incumbent (actually is it crotty?). BB will be our starter unless some real shit goes down this season, so that adds some spice around the mix of skills they want at 12.


  • Banned

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    The midfield is a huge concern.

    it fucking wouldn't be if the coaches picked the two best guys and played them more.

    or, you know, we could keep chopping and changing every test, and keep trying to start two guys who can't string 2 halves of rugby together, let alone two consecutive games.

    And that's before you start talking about the game management from 10...

    10 is fine. Just need a settled midfield. Problem is Crotty is always injured, SBW is now pretty shit and ALB runs hot and cold. They should go with the outstanding midfield combo that won the Mitre 10 Cup in 2016.



  • lets hope history is repeating itself...we chopped and changed our mid-field so much before we settled on Ma'a and Conrad



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    10 is fine. Just need a settled midfield. Problem is Crotty is always injured, SBW is now pretty shit and ALB runs hot and cold

    pfft hahaha classic.

    It's great how blindly entrenched you are

    (and yes, i am completely aware of the enormous irony in that statement, my initial comment was blatant Rancid bait anyway)

    ALB gets marked so much harder than all those other midfielders by the way. His hot and cold is way more hot than cold. And it's not like any of the others are consistently outstanding. A bit of consistency of selection might actually help.

    But no, we need to see if SBW and Crotty can get through a test...


  • Banned

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    10 is fine. Just need a settled midfield. Problem is Crotty is always injured, SBW is now pretty shit and ALB runs hot and cold

    pfft hahaha classic.

    It's great how blindly entrenched you are

    (and yes, i am completely aware of the enormous irony in that statement, my initial comment was blatant Rancid bait anyway)

    ALB gets marked so much harder than all those other midfielders by the way. His hot and cold is way more hot than cold. And it's not like any of the others are consistently outstanding. A bit of consistency of selection might actually help.

    But no, we need to see if SBW and Crotty can get through a test...

    I suppose you at least admit to that being the most blatant example of pot-kettle-black.

    I think Laumapi is a better bet than ALB. He's definitely developed his game well and we'll need a battering ram in the RWC.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    10 is fine. Just need a settled midfield. Problem is Crotty is always injured, SBW is now pretty shit and ALB runs hot and cold

    pfft hahaha classic.

    It's great how blindly entrenched you are

    (and yes, i am completely aware of the enormous irony in that statement, my initial comment was blatant Rancid bait anyway)

    ALB gets marked so much harder than all those other midfielders by the way. His hot and cold is way more hot than cold. And it's not like any of the others are consistently outstanding. A bit of consistency of selection might actually help.

    But no, we need to see if SBW and Crotty can get through a test...

    I suppose you at least admit to that being the most blatant example of pot-kettle-black.

    I think Laumapa is a better bet than ALB. He's definitely developed his game well and we'll need a battering ram in the RWC.

    you Hurricanes trolls are the worst

    Give me ACTC's AB team predictions every day



  • @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    10 is fine. Just need a settled midfield. Problem is Crotty is always injured, SBW is now pretty shit and ALB runs hot and cold

    pfft hahaha classic.

    It's great how blindly entrenched you are

    (and yes, i am completely aware of the enormous irony in that statement, my initial comment was blatant Rancid bait anyway)

    ALB gets marked so much harder than all those other midfielders by the way. His hot and cold is way more hot than cold. And it's not like any of the others are consistently outstanding. A bit of consistency of selection might actually help.

    But no, we need to see if SBW and Crotty can get through a test...

    I suppose you at least admit to that being the most blatant example of pot-kettle-black.

    I think Laumapa is a better bet than ALB. He's definitely developed his game well and we'll need a battering ram in the RWC.

    you Hurricanes trolls are the worst

    Give me ACTC's AB team predictions every day

    I don't think Laumape being from the canes has any thing to do with old mates rancids endorsement, he's just talking up a good player.



  • @MN5 said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    10 is fine. Just need a settled midfield. Problem is Crotty is always injured, SBW is now pretty shit and ALB runs hot and cold

    pfft hahaha classic.

    It's great how blindly entrenched you are

    (and yes, i am completely aware of the enormous irony in that statement, my initial comment was blatant Rancid bait anyway)

    ALB gets marked so much harder than all those other midfielders by the way. His hot and cold is way more hot than cold. And it's not like any of the others are consistently outstanding. A bit of consistency of selection might actually help.

    But no, we need to see if SBW and Crotty can get through a test...

    I suppose you at least admit to that being the most blatant example of pot-kettle-black.

    I think Laumapa is a better bet than ALB. He's definitely developed his game well and we'll need a battering ram in the RWC.

    you Hurricanes trolls are the worst

    Give me ACTC's AB team predictions every day

    I don't think Laumape being from the canes has any thing to do with old mates rancids endorsement, he's just talking up a good player.

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  • Arguing over who should play midfield in a world cup year because it isnt settled yet

    last time that happened was 2007



  • @kiwiinmelb said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    Arguing over who should play midfield in a world cup year because it isnt settled yet

    last time that happened was 2007

    I know! Isn't it exciting!

    Ben Smith is going to carve up at centre in October.


  • Banned

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    10 is fine. Just need a settled midfield. Problem is Crotty is always injured, SBW is now pretty shit and ALB runs hot and cold

    pfft hahaha classic.

    It's great how blindly entrenched you are

    (and yes, i am completely aware of the enormous irony in that statement, my initial comment was blatant Rancid bait anyway)

    ALB gets marked so much harder than all those other midfielders by the way. His hot and cold is way more hot than cold. And it's not like any of the others are consistently outstanding. A bit of consistency of selection might actually help.

    But no, we need to see if SBW and Crotty can get through a test...

    I suppose you at least admit to that being the most blatant example of pot-kettle-black.

    I think Laumapa is a better bet than ALB. He's definitely developed his game well and we'll need a battering ram in the RWC.

    you Hurricanes trolls are the worst

    Give me ACTC's AB team predictions every day

    Oh kindly fark off you dildo-in-mouth, Lycra-wearing twat.

    Liverpool will choke 🖕



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @mariner4life said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    10 is fine. Just need a settled midfield. Problem is Crotty is always injured, SBW is now pretty shit and ALB runs hot and cold

    pfft hahaha classic.

    It's great how blindly entrenched you are

    (and yes, i am completely aware of the enormous irony in that statement, my initial comment was blatant Rancid bait anyway)

    ALB gets marked so much harder than all those other midfielders by the way. His hot and cold is way more hot than cold. And it's not like any of the others are consistently outstanding. A bit of consistency of selection might actually help.

    But no, we need to see if SBW and Crotty can get through a test...

    I suppose you at least admit to that being the most blatant example of pot-kettle-black.

    I think Laumapa is a better bet than ALB. He's definitely developed his game well and we'll need a battering ram in the RWC.

    you Hurricanes trolls are the worst

    Give me ACTC's AB team predictions every day

    Oh kindly fark off you dildo-in-mouth, Lycra-wearing twat.

    Liverpool will choke 🖕

    Better Lycra than some of the bow ties I see him wearing in his fb pics



  • The only guys that can provide real punch in the midfield are Laumape and SBW. So it depends how important we think that is - I'd say Beauden would quite like a reliable bail-out option. But Laumape doesn't offer much else and SBW will break again.

    What we really need is a bloke that can provide that punch but also posses vision for his outsides, a great passing game including a leathal bullet cut-out pass, can kick when required, and absolutely smash fluffybunnies on defense.

    So yeah, if Nonu shows form he's a no brainer.



  • @No-Quarter said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    What we really need is a bloke that can provide that punch but also posses vision for his outsides, a great passing game including a leathal bullet cut-out pass, can kick when required, and absolutely smash fluffybunnies on defense.

    just got a wee chubby reading this. Fark yeah, arguably our greatest 12 ever



  • @No-Quarter it's funny I don't see Nonu as a battering ram type player, I don't think he's been that in a long time, it doesn't seem a stand out of his play compared to others. Outstanding silky handling, vision and sweet feet are what put him a long way above his peers.



  • @Bones Carter always said he liked having Nonu outside him as a bail-out option. I agree the other parts of his game overshadowed that aspect but the ability to punch up the middle was always there. An absolute nightmare to defend against.



  • @No-Quarter said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Bones Carter always said he liked having Nonu outside him as a bail-out option. I agree the other parts of his game overshadowed that aspect but the ability to punch up the middle was always there. An absolute nightmare to defend against.

    Hmmm....when did he say that?



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    How well has he been playing in France?

    Well, it depended if he looked interested or not. He used to be outstanding when it mattered and his distribution was always superb. A few brain explosions (late and high tackles), which is surprising for a guy with plenty of experience.



  • @Bones said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @No-Quarter said in Ma'a Nonu for the World Cup......:

    @Bones Carter always said he liked having Nonu outside him as a bail-out option. I agree the other parts of his game overshadowed that aspect but the ability to punch up the middle was always there. An absolute nightmare to defend against.

    Hmmm....when did he say that?

    Oh gezz you want me to back up a claim with evidence? You know where you are posting right?

    I often heard him talk about how good it was to have someone who can reliably get front-foot ball outside him, I guess I could try and dig up some quotes...


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