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    I loved the article last night with his views on a topic that we otherwise have to be very careful on commenting about.

    One sporting autobiography that I might actually buy for once (or drop hints at for a Birthday/Christmas prezzie...)

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    And I'm just about dancing round the office remembering this game:

    I never thought I'd hear a roar like the one Eden Park delivered when Kane finished off the Aussies with a six, but this is at least its equal. Everyone goes nuts.

    In the bowels of the stadium, the two Indian caterers - I wish I knew their names - jump on me and the three of us dance round the dunnies together, then I rush through to the dressing room and out to the front. The boys are ecstatic, but out in the middle, Grant is perhaps the only one who's still composed. After a huge victory pump and a hug with Dan, he bends down to a shattered Dale Steyn and offers him a hand up.

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    Self righteous piston wristed gibbon.

    One of the excerpts on stuff about the Cairns trial finishes with the words "Jesus Wept"

    Can't stand McCullum and his holier than thou attitude.

    Vincent lied about everything, his wife was pissed as fuck. If that's 2 of the only 3 witnesses then be prepared to get called out. The judge was just summarising the facts

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    Some one is a Cairns fan/relative.....

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    He let the BC's down in the 2015 CWC final though with his irresponsible batting. Had the talent but never had the brains.

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    @SammyC http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/10/face-of-the-day-1131/

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    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    He let the BC's down in the 2015 CWC final though with his irresponsible batting. Had the talent but never had the brains.

    My argument to that is that is the way he has always batted in the tournament and ODI's. I think people would have been more critical had he changed his style and went cheaply. You can't win with people like you that celebrate victories purely because of his style and then bemoan failures becasue of his style.

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    @Hooroo said in Brendon McCullum:

    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    He let the BC's down in the 2015 CWC final though with his irresponsible batting. Had the talent but never had the brains.

    My argument to that is that is the way he has always batted in the tournament and ODI's. I think people would have been more critical had he changed his style and went cheaply. You can't win with people like you that celebrate victories purely because of his style and then bemoan failures becasue of his style.

    BS. He was up against Starc who had the ball moving around like Wasim Akram and had just beaten McCullum with two in swinging balls just before Brendan decided to play the hero. Play your natural game by all means, but at least have the brains to do it against the other Aussie bowlers, not an in form Starc. FYI, I was very critical of him in the semi against SA as well. He got them off to a fantastic start and the responsible thing to have done was to be a bit more cautious, bat through the innings and see them through comfortably, and not carry on charging every second ball.

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    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    @Hooroo said in Brendon McCullum:

    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    He let the BC's down in the 2015 CWC final though with his irresponsible batting. Had the talent but never had the brains.

    My argument to that is that is the way he has always batted in the tournament and ODI's. I think people would have been more critical had he changed his style and went cheaply. You can't win with people like you that celebrate victories purely because of his style and then bemoan failures becasue of his style.

    BS. He was up against Starc who had the ball moving around like Wasim Akram and had just beaten McCullum with two in swinging balls just before Brendan decided to play the hero. Play your natural game by all means, but at least have the brains to do it against the other Aussie bowlers, not an in form Starc. FYI, I was very critical of him in the semi against SA as well. He got them off to a fantastic start and the responsible thing to have done was to be a bit more cautious, bat through the innings and see them through comfortably, and not carry on charging every second ball.

    Or just bat Starc out of the attack.

    Didn't work but could of. That is the risks he always took.

    People like you are always highlighting error and silent on success. Good for you mate

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    @Hooroo said in Brendon McCullum:

    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    @Hooroo said in Brendon McCullum:

    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    He let the BC's down in the 2015 CWC final though with his irresponsible batting. Had the talent but never had the brains.

    My argument to that is that is the way he has always batted in the tournament and ODI's. I think people would have been more critical had he changed his style and went cheaply. You can't win with people like you that celebrate victories purely because of his style and then bemoan failures becasue of his style.

    BS. He was up against Starc who had the ball moving around like Wasim Akram and had just beaten McCullum with two in swinging balls just before Brendan decided to play the hero. Play your natural game by all means, but at least have the brains to do it against the other Aussie bowlers, not an in form Starc. FYI, I was very critical of him in the semi against SA as well. He got them off to a fantastic start and the responsible thing to have done was to be a bit more cautious, bat through the innings and see them through comfortably, and not carry on charging every second ball.

    Or just bat Starc out of the attack.

    Didn't work but could of. That is the risks he always took.

    People like you are always highlighting error and silent on success. Good for you mate

    And people like you failing to be critical just because he is one of NZ's sporting darlings. FYI, I am not the only one who feels this way.He got a lot of flak at the time from cricket lovers all around the world. You just need to learn to be objective.

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    @Hooroo said in Brendon McCullum:

    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    @Hooroo said in Brendon McCullum:

    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    He let the BC's down in the 2015 CWC final though with his irresponsible batting. Had the talent but never had the brains.

    My argument to that is that is the way he has always batted in the tournament and ODI's. I think people would have been more critical had he changed his style and went cheaply. You can't win with people like you that celebrate victories purely because of his style and then bemoan failures becasue of his style.

    BS. He was up against Starc who had the ball moving around like Wasim Akram and had just beaten McCullum with two in swinging balls just before Brendan decided to play the hero. Play your natural game by all means, but at least have the brains to do it against the other Aussie bowlers, not an in form Starc. FYI, I was very critical of him in the semi against SA as well. He got them off to a fantastic start and the responsible thing to have done was to be a bit more cautious, bat through the innings and see them through comfortably, and not carry on charging every second ball.

    Didn't work but could of. That is the risks he always took

    That there is the crux isn't it, he never changed the way he played, always attacked, he lived and died by that attitude.

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    @taniwharugby That's it. He always played like that but people whine and whine when it doesn't come off but enjoy the spoils of victory when it doesn't.

    Some people are just a bit sad with that sort of thing

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    Does he have a book coming out or something? Seems like an odd number of articles about him today.

    Good captain and player but too often lacked the temperament or attitude to make the most of his talent. The peak of that was probably his dismissal of Martin Crowe's advice, which made him come off like a complete knob. Still, he's the guy who broke the 300 barrier and led the team to NZ's first CWC final, so full credit to him for those achievements.

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    I think commentary on BMac and his batting in the final is overblown. Starc ripped through everyone in that World Cup except for the Sri Lankans in the Group Stages who were chasing a mammoth total anyway. Black Caps were 9 for 140 odd in the Eden Park game v the Aussies too.

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    @jegga said in Brendon McCullum:

    @SammyC http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/10/face-of-the-day-1131/

    Firstly, conflating the captaincy saga and the blithering ineptness of NZC around that time with the court proceedings in the UK alleging perjury is like comparing the local club rugby final with the world cup final. It's possible to believe that neither person is a perfect angel (e.g. Trump vs Clinton) without it completely discrediting the claims one of them make.

    Secondly, two comments under the blog stand out for me...

    It is a clever tactic on the part of Cairns - call up one of his detractors, be polite, provide some evidence of his innocence and discredit one of the key witnesses against him. Reading the comments here, I am surprised at the vitriol being poured on Brendan McCullum. [text not copied just in case] it does make it much harder to prove that match fixing took place, and the whole perjury case hung on that. Cairns was well aware of this. On top of that, elite sportsmen are taught never to give up - they develop a mental toughness that is required both on and off the field. Cairns always knew his chances of walking free were good. After the trial, he set about retrieving his own shattered reputation by damaging the reputation of others. We should not fall for this.

    But most depressingly...

    To be honest, I have no interest in either Cairns or McCullum, or cricket as a whole for that matter. What has been shown over the past few years is cricket is rigged and corrupt at an international level. A lot of sport has become less about the game, and more about the greed.

    I'll never give up on the game, but this stuff gets depressing when you see players who have been found guily of corruption (whether or not it makes you suspect a tip of the iceberg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cricketers_banned_for_corruption (and at a much lower level of proof needed than a perjury trial in the High Court because they were still under ICC jurisdiction).

    Forgetting both Cairns and McCullum for a moment, there's some stuff out there in cricket that does make me happily wish a 'holier than thou Jesus wept' on them. And a whole lot of shit worse...

    It's the distrust that gets brought in around the whole sport that's the killer. If cricket ever ends up like the Tour de France for that...

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    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    And people like you failing to be critical just because he is one of NZ's sporting darlings. FYI, I am not the only one who feels this way. He got a lot of flak at the time from cricket lovers all around the world. You just need to learn to be objective.

    So what? there's a lot of people in NZ who don't like rugby, or in world rugby who think Ritchie McCaw is a cheat. If public opinion is part of learning to be objective, count me out...

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    @Donsteppa said in Brendon McCullum:

    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    And people like you failing to be critical just because he is one of NZ's sporting darlings. FYI, I am not the only one who feels this way. He got a lot of flak at the time from cricket lovers all around the world. You just need to learn to be objective.

    So what? there's a lot of people in NZ who don't like rugby, or in world rugby who think Ritchie McCaw is a cheat. If public opinion is part of learning to be objective, count me out...

    Difference being Brendon was well liked by most of the cricketing world and most neutrals were desperate to see Australia lose that final.

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    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    @Donsteppa said in Brendon McCullum:

    @akan004 said in Brendon McCullum:

    And people like you failing to be critical just because he is one of NZ's sporting darlings. FYI, I am not the only one who feels this way. He got a lot of flak at the time from cricket lovers all around the world. You just need to learn to be objective.

    So what? there's a lot of people in NZ who don't like rugby, or in world rugby who think Ritchie McCaw is a cheat. If public opinion is part of learning to be objective, count me out...

    Difference being Brendon was well liked by most of the cricketing world and most neutrals were desperate to see Australia lose that final.

    And I'd refer them to the post by @KiwiMurph

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    Reading that excerpt, I think I might have to go find the footage and rewatch the semi. Maybe the game against Aussie too.

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    Look, about the CWC final: it wasn't that McCullum was shit. Its just that Starc was so much better than him.

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