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  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/how-a-canadians-mistake-70-years-ago-almost-botched-japans-surrender-document/article26201436/'>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/how-a-canadians-mistake-70-years-ago-almost-botched-japans-surrender-document/article26201436/</a></p>
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Sept. 2 – known to history as VJ Day – marks 70 years since the signing on-board the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay of Japan’s formal surrender. Under the watchful eye of the 31-star American flag that had accompanied Matthew Perry and his Black Ships into that same bay in 1853, the ceremony was brief and solemn as Allied and Japanese representatives signed the two copies of the instrument of surrender.<br><br>
    Amidst the solemnity of the occasion, however, came an unusual historical footnote courtesy of the Canadian representative, Colonel Lawrence Moore Cosgrave. When signing the Japanese copy, Col. Cosgrave – perhaps owing to blindness in one eye – placed his scrawl below the line reserved for the Canadian signature and instead signed on the line of the French representative. In the official timeline of the ceremony, a brief but noticeable delay appears after Col. Cosgrave’s signing – the French delegate no doubt perplexed as to where to place his signature.<br><br>
    Each subsequent delegate eventually signed on the next available – if incorrect – line; the final delegate from New Zealand simply signing his name in a blank space underneath the others, his signature line having been commandeered by the Dutch.<br><br>
    When the Japanese delegation protested – could they accept a botched surrender document? – Douglas MacArthur’s famously brusque chief of staff General Richard Sutherland scratched out the now-incorrect list of Allied delegates and handwrote the correct titles under each signature, adding his initials to each correction to forestall further protest. The Japanese were then dismissed from the USS Missouri with a short “Now it’s all fine” from Gen. Sutherland.<br><br>
    It was a quirky end to an otherwise dark chapter of human history. Canada’s contribution to the historical blooper reel can be seen by the public at Japan’s Edo-Tokyo Museum, where the surrender document remains on display. The Allied copy of the document, it should be noted, was signed without incident.
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  • NTAN Online
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    <p>Pisstake of the century!</p>

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    <p>The French dude should have signed where the Canadian should have and halved the necessary number of corrections.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dogmeat" data-cid="611077" data-time="1472624019">
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    <p>The French dude should have signed where the Canadian should have and halved the necessary number of corrections.</p>
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    <p>Sensitivities around Canada being an ex-colony (except Quebec) of France may have stayed his hand and may have caused the downfall of western society as we know it</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="611041" data-time="1472612991">
    <div>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/how-a-canadians-mistake-70-years-ago-almost-botched-japans-surrender-document/article26201436/'>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/how-a-canadians-mistake-70-years-ago-almost-botched-japans-surrender-document/article26201436/</a></p>
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    <p>I love everything about that.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>That's total surrender for Japanese. You honestly have to live there to understand it.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gt12" data-cid="611177" data-time="1472672744"><p>
    I love everything about that.<br><br>
    That's total surrender for Japanese. You honestly have to live there to understand it.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    They didn't let them actually end the war properly for another six or so years.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="611179" data-time="1472673421">
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    <p>They didn't let them actually end the war properly for another six or so years.</p>
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    <p>I've got some good stories about that.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I used to 'teach' a guy who learned English from GIs who wanted to visit whore houses and buy smokes. At 8 he was a little pimp and smoke master. He was awesome to talk to.</p>
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    <p>On the other hand, you didn't want to to be zainichi - previous Mrs gt12 in training was zainichi - Korean by nationality but only because the Japanese government revoked the citizenship of her family straight after the San Francisco treaty (long story, but basically they were recognized as Japanese while the Yanks were running things but birth-right citizenship was take away).</p>
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    <p>The wikipedia page doesn't make it quite clear how, but basically koreans who had moved to Japan and been 'accepted' as citizens following the war - had it taken away and became kind of countryless post SFT (i.e., owned land, owned businesses, were nothing in a <em>now</em> divided Korea) so she (and her family) is South Korean - even though her family is actually from North Korea and she was born in Japan to parents who were Korean born in Japan, from grandparents who were brought to Japan, then bought land, then got peace, and recognition - only for it to disappear with SFT.</p>
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    <p>It's a complicated topic, so sorry to any Japanese who are reading - I know this is a simplistic summary.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Japan'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Japan</a></p>
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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/birthright-citizenship-other-countries_us_55df2a82e4b08dc0948699f3'>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/birthright-citizenship-other-countries_us_55df2a82e4b08dc0948699f3</a></p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="610787" data-time="1472543430">
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    <p>one of those annoying most amazing things popped up on my FB feed, but something intrigued me, so I clicked...not sure if true, seems legit, no doubt Ferners will let me know if fake, cos I really cant be arsed to check my sources! </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Did you know that between when we first learned about Pluto in 1930 and today, the dwarf planet has not managed to completely circumnavigate the sun once?</p>
    <p>When the last mammoth finally died, the Great Pyramids were already 1,000 years <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://io9.gizmodo.com/5896262/the-last-mammoths-died-out-just-3600-years-agobut-they-should-have-survived'>old</a>.</p>
    <p>And <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/06/30/cleopatra.suicide/'>Cleopatra</a> lived closer in time to the invention of the iPhone than to the construction of those Great Pyramids.</p>
    <p>The Tyrannosaurus rex lived closer in time to humans than it did to the stegosaurus.</p>
    <p>In France, people were still being <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.wired.com/2007/09/dayintech-0910-2/'>executed</a>by guillotine when <i>Star Wars</i> first premiered in movie theaters?</p>
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    <p>That last one sounded too strange. Wiki may be wrong of course but 1977 - really?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>From Wiki: </p>
    <p><b>Hamida Djandoubi</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> (</span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language' title="Arabic language">Arabic</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;">: </span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;">حميدة جندوبي</span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;">‎‎) (September 22, 1949 – September 10, 1977) was the last person to be </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executed' title="Executed">executed</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> in Western Europe</span><sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamida_Djandoubi#cite_note-Zimring2004-1'>[1]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> and the last person executed by </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beheading' title="Beheading">beheading</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> in the Western world. He was a </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Tunisia' title="Demographics of Tunisia">Tunisian</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> agricultural worker who was sentenced to death for the torture and murder of 21-year-old Élisabeth Bousquet in </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marseille,_France' title="Marseille, France">Marseille, France</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;">. </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Chevalier' title="Marcel Chevalier">Marcel Chevalier</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> served as chief executioner.</span><sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamida_Djandoubi#cite_note-isf-2'>[2]</a></sup></p>

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  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
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    V91.07 is the official diagnosis code for an injury caused by "burn due to water-skis on fire".

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    keraunothnetophobia - a fear of falling man-made satellites

    So there is a difference between a fear of man made vs alien satellites?

    How would the diagnosis for something like this go?

    @Snowy that was posted further up this thread, with answers after as well...were interesting facts

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    @Tim said in The thread of learning something new every day:

    V91.07 is the official diagnosis code for an injury caused by "burn due to water-skis on fire".

    I also like V97.33XD - Sucked into jet engine, subsequent encounter.

    Just in case you survived.

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    @Tim Boom!

    http://www.cubebreaker.com/navy-man-sucked-into-jet-engine-and-survives-watch-now/

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    @Hooroo said in The thread of learning something new every day:

    @Tim Boom!

    http://www.cubebreaker.com/navy-man-sucked-into-jet-engine-and-survives-watch-now/

    Christ!!!

    What allowed him to survive was the design of the A-6 engine (the J-52). It has a long protruding ‘bullet’ or cone that extends in front of the first stage fans. When he was sucked in, his arm extended above his head which caused his body to wedge between the bullet and inside wall of the intake. Lucky for him, his cranial and float coat were sucked in first causing the FOD’d engine which prompted the pilot to cut the throttle (commanded by the Shooter who moves into the frame kneeling and moving his wand up and down). It took almost 3 minutes for him to push his way out of the intake after being sucked in.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    Every line you quoted was more remarkable than the previous!!!

    The fact that he can't have been critically injured as he climbed out!

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    @taniwharugby said in The thread of learning something new every day:

    keraunothnetophobia - a fear of falling man-made satellites

    So there is a difference between a fear of man made vs alien satellites?

    How would the diagnosis for something like this go?

    @Snowy that was posted further up this thread, with answers after as well...were interesting facts

    As opposed to natural sattelites I expect, which is restricted to the moon here on earth.

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    @booboo what about Alien spy satellites?

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    @taniwharugby said in The thread of learning something new every day:

    @booboo what about Alien spy satellites?

    I'm pretty afeared of them ...

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    #278

    @booboo but are they real?

    What about Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia?

    I mean being diagnosed for something, with that condition that is the very essence of your fear? ie that is a fear of long words!

    Some very interesting ones!

    The Phobia List
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    #279

    @taniwharugby said in The thread of learning something new every day:

    @booboo but are they real?

    What about Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia?

    I mean being diagnosed for something, with that condition that is the very essence of your fear? ie that is a fear of long words!

    Some very interesting ones!

    The Phobia List

    I bet my one isnt there
    I am scared of being in the middle of a dental visit in an earthquake.... just wandering outside to a devatsted city with all that stuff in your mouth and the injection wearing off....

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    @Baron-Silas-Greenback do you get medication for it?

    Assuming it doesnt have a name, you could name it?

    Mandibularterraemotusphobia?

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