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@Catogrande said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@Catogrande said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@gollum said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@gollum said in US Politics:
Trump is the most on record anti-woman president pretty much ever, confessed to sexual assault
He literally on tape saying he grabs women by the pussy. That's sexual assault. To test, try grabbing a woman by the pussy. There's also the, uh, rape thing re Ivanka... I didn't even bother with the strolling into Miss Teen Americas dressing rooms...
Arf! Its like Kellyanne is right here! Nothing to do with who he owes money to & where his money comes from...or a promise made during the election to release them.
Its because the press would harp on about them distracting from the greatness of America thing.
There are multiple things you can call out Trump for, but claiming he confessed to sexual assault is absolutely ridiculous.
What about his confession to Billy Bush? Does that not count?
Are you for real?
Absolutely. The transcript of that tape is pretty straightforward and is an admission that he has committed sexual assault. Feel free to defend the tape, I'd be interested to see why you think that was not admitting sexual assault. Not specific enough maybe?
You are joking.
Do you also think Eddie Murphy was dropping pussy and picking it up off the street?
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Helpfully its repeated in the article Crucial just linked to...tho they don't call it sexual assault
They call it a sex crime
This bit was interesting -
As Alex Pareene recently argued, with a capable and traditional conservative like Mike Pence waiting in the wings should Trump falter, Republicans would be crazy not to impeach Trump at their earliest convenience and install a more traditional GOP president who could push their party’s agenda forward without the threat of an unhinged pre-dawn Twitter rant hanging over their heads.
The GOP is so disfunctional at at war with itself its not crazy to see a time Trump could be impeached with them knowing Pence is GOP through & through
For me, if he is impeached it'll be for covering up something staggeringly bad his team have done - eg for a tape of Flynn joking with Putin about how to get rid of Ryan by hacking his email. The team around Trump are the ones I'd be looking to go after if I were the CIA / NSA, FBIs because they will 100% do something. Tho' it'll just be Flynn or DeVos who get shitcanned.
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Depends, are you backing a candidate for a carefully laid out set of reasons you throw out the window the second he does?
And no, it wasn't a prediction he would be impeached, it was a prediction that the only way he'd get in trouble would be for something stupid the shysters on his team did.
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@gollum said in US Politics:
Helpfully its repeated in the article Crucial just linked to...tho they don't call it sexual assault
They call it a sex crime
I don't give a flying fuck what GQ calls it. He didn't admit to a sex crime. He said 'when you’re a star, you can do anything'. I've already explained to you the difference between "you can" and "I did". Need Big Bird to help you with this?
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@gollum said in US Politics:
- Depends, are you backing a candidate for a carefully laid out set of reasons you throw out the window the second he does?
- And no, it wasn't a prediction he would be impeached, it was a prediction that the only way he'd get in trouble would be for something stupid the shysters on his team did.
I'm not and I already said this was nothing to do with my support for him.
I was referring to your prediction that - "because they will 100% do something. Tho' it'll just be Flynn or DeVos who get shitcanned." I don't have your depth of political insight to be 100% sure of anything in this area.
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Is big bird your word for part of your body? Because I can see which way you are leaning here & I feel like I might need an adult....
You were one of the few Trump supporters on here to clearly list out why you prefered him, most of those things on the list have already been shit on. EG less likey to go to war, then in his FIRST CIA briefing he mentions going back to war with Iraq... Seriously, first fricking speech at the CIA...
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@Rancid-Schnitzel No, I'm not joking mate. I concede that if you were trying to convict him of committing a sexual assault based on him admitting such, then the evidence would be far too flimsy. But if you think that what he said is anything other than an admission of committing those acts then I would have to say, please believe what you want to believe. And I will do the same.
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@Catogrande before he says anything about grabbing pussy he says "they let you do anything". Let being the important word there. Context: talking about woman that are throwing themselves at him due to his excessive wealth. It's a pretty vulgar thing to say, but claiming that to be an admission of sexual assault is a bit of a stretch.
And before anyone says anything about consent, you don't need express oral consent. Implied consent is enough under the law. Otherwise 99% of sex in the world could be considered sexual assault/rape.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@gollum said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@gollum said in US Politics:
Trump is the most on record anti-woman president pretty much ever, confessed to sexual assault
He literally on tape saying he grabs women by the pussy. That's sexual assault. To test, try grabbing a woman by the pussy. There's also the, uh, rape thing re Ivanka... I didn't even bother with the strolling into Miss Teen Americas dressing rooms...
Arf! Its like Kellyanne is right here! Nothing to do with who he owes money to & where his money comes from...or a promise made during the election to release them.
Its because the press would harp on about them distracting from the greatness of America thing.
There are multiple things you can call out Trump for, but claiming he confessed to sexual assault is absolutely ridiculous.
@gollum said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@gollum said in US Politics:
Trump is the most on record anti-woman president pretty much ever, confessed to sexual assault
He literally on tape saying he grabs women by the pussy. That's sexual assault. To test, try grabbing a woman by the pussy. There's also the, uh, rape thing re Ivanka... I didn't even bother with the strolling into Miss Teen Americas dressing rooms...
Arf! Its like Kellyanne is right here! Nothing to do with who he owes money to & where his money comes from...or a promise made during the election to release them.
Its because the press would harp on about them distracting from the greatness of America thing.
Oh FFS get a grip. There was no sexual assault and the rest are just bullshit and smear. Are those your alternate facts?
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Trump got a lot of women votes, to claim in any way or shape that those marchers represent all women is a nonsense. Those marchers represent salty Clinton voters with waaay to much time on their hands and nothing more.
Just a bunch of sore losers with vaginas having a huge moan over nothing.
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@No-Quarter I hear what you say and kind of take your point, but I guess that we just have different views in this.
No big deal, that's allowed
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
Trump got a lot of women votes, to claim in any way or shape that those marchers represent all women is a nonsense. Those marchers represent salty Clinton voters with waaay to much time on their hands and nothing more.
Just a bunch of sore losers with vaginas having a huge moan over nothing.
Can we have a "Like but not for the right reasons" button?
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@Catogrande said in US Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
Trump got a lot of women votes, to claim in any way or shape that those marchers represent all women is a nonsense. Those marchers represent salty Clinton voters with waaay to much time on their hands and nothing more.
Just a bunch of sore losers with vaginas having a huge moan over nothing.
Can we have a "Like but not for the right reasons" button?
Hey if you want to get excited about a whole bunch of sore loser Clinton supporters wandering about with vaginas on their heads, no problem.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
Trump got a lot of women votes, to claim in any way or shape that those marchers represent all women is a nonsense. Those marchers represent salty Clinton voters with waaay to much time on their hands and nothing more.
Just a bunch of sore losers with vaginas having a huge moan over nothing.
that's what makes me laugh about all these protests, how many of them either didn't vote or still voted for Trump...only thing worse than their seemingly pointless march, is those in other countries protesting too.
Trump has clearly shown he gives less than a f@ck about what anyone thinks, all this was known to voters prior to the election, do they think it will make one bit of difference after?
I appreciate some of those protesting are there for the sexist and derogatory remarks, but at the end of the day, they are marching against Trump.
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That woman is a piece of work eh. It beggars belief that people can take the time out of their day, dress up as a vagina, and go on a big march where they repeat everything some idiot says on a megaphone, without having any idea about who is organising the march and what that persons views on woman's rights are. She doesn't care about woman's rights, she's just anti-America. She can get fucked.
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@gollum said in US Politics:
Its a show of strength to congress as much as anything.
Trump is the most on record anti-woman president pretty much ever, confessed to sexual assault, accused of raping ex wife, wants to defund the no.1 source of womens healthcare in America, wants to stop safe available abortion etc. Nothing in that march will change that, but when it comes to pushing it through congress they will vote less with whats right or their core beliefs, more with what keeps their seat.
Its a play straight out of the Tea Party, who protested Obama a lot - especially on healthcare & tax reform. The TP vocally went to town over Obamacare WAY before most GOP congressmen, those who got on board were fine, those that didn't got thrown out by TP candidates.
If you put aside the silly claims of sexual assault and rape, defunding planned parenthood and stopping abortion aren't necessarily "anti-woman" stances. There are millions of woman in America that are completely on board with both of those. I get that you have your own stance on those issues, and that you are certain in your moral superiority, but calling anyone that disagrees with you "sexist" or any other stupid name does not help the debate one bit.
For what it's worth I think planned parenthood/abortion clinics are an absolute necessity in any country. But if you want to have that debate with people that are against it, you need to put your moral superiority and your petty name calling aside. It's that bullshit attitude that leads to the division and resentment we are seeing today.
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