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An impartial press? I think we'll see Trump turn up with a number one haircut before we ever see that.
News outlets are businesses and have target markets. At the moment they appear to think that Trump supporters are not in those markets.
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@Crucial said in US Politics:
An impartial press? I think we'll see Trump turn up with a number one haircut before we ever see that.
News outlets are businesses and have target markets. At the moment they appear to think that Trump supporters are not in those markets.
They may have to come around if their ability to inform their market is impaired in a battle with the Oval Office, but at the moment both sides think they will win out.I think they are driving the narrative that Trump is unpopular, and have been for a while. They were genuinely confused when Trump kept winning, yet alone when he won the election.
Little to do with target markets, they have built a story and it rates well. Particularly as Trump loves using it to distract everyone from serious stuff.
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@Kirwan said in US Politics:
@Crucial said in US Politics:
An impartial press? I think we'll see Trump turn up with a number one haircut before we ever see that.
News outlets are businesses and have target markets. At the moment they appear to think that Trump supporters are not in those markets.
They may have to come around if their ability to inform their market is impaired in a battle with the Oval Office, but at the moment both sides think they will win out.I think they are driving the narrative that Trump is unpopular, and have been for a while. They were genuinely confused when Trump kept winning, yet alone when he won the election.
Little to do with target markets, they have built a story and it rates well. Particularly as Trump loves using it to distract everyone from serious stuff.
You don't think they recognise that it is their market that doesn't like Trump? This concept that the press is creating a story that isn't there is crazy. The popular vote and the demographics of that vote point to them preaching to the converted (as you say, it rates well).
Yes, they seemed confused about the win but that's because they were listening to their own market without recognising that some unpolled folk had snuck in the back door and ruined the party.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
Just a bunch of sore losers with vaginas having a huge moan over nothing.
Hey if you want to get excited about a whole bunch of sore loser Clinton supporters wandering about with vaginas on their heads, no problem.
I almost like the way you tried to roll that back after Cato called you on it.
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@gollum said in US Politics:
I think we've learned the leson is to maintain eye contact with her. She can fake liking you for as long as you are looking at her
So you would be going missionary all the way? No doggy unless there was a mirror?
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Not sure whether to comment on this here or in the NZ Politics thread but it is tenuously related to Trump.
I guess the NZ Media are frothing at the bung trying to find out how Peter Thiel gained NZ Citizenship. NZ Residency I can understand but apparently he didn't have to go through Overseas Investment hoops for his property purchase because of being a citizen. As far as anyone can see the only way he gained citizenship was through a ministerial exception. -
@gollum said in US Politics:
I think we've learned the leson is to maintain eye contact with her. She can fake liking you for as long as you are looking at her
No the lesson we have learnt here is that some people who distribute videos like that are are still seriously butt hurt that Clinton lost.
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@gollum said in US Politics:
More polls....
Completely and utterly meaningless.. have you learnt nothing?
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@Bones said in US Politics:
I probably shouldn't have googled "butthurt".
I have a therapy session this afternoon. I googled circle jerk because of you bastards so I'm not going near that one.
Someone didn't go to boarding school...
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The opinion polls weren't accurate enough to call a relatively close election. They also weren't out by 25% - 30% either. Perhaps chuck in the actual margin of error from the elections and they're at least somewhere in the ballpark. That's without getting into whether they were closer to the actual tally of votes rather than the Electoral College results too - I wonder whether they modelled for that.
Eventually the better pollsters will figure out how to model and when to apply a Shy Tory/Tom Bradley Effect accurately enough in the Western world, they've had two good looks at it in the last twelve months.
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@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
The opinion polls weren't accurate enough to call a relatively close election. They also weren't out by 25% - 30% either. Perhaps chuck in the actual margin of error from the elections and they're at least somewhere in the ballpark. That's without getting into whether they were closer to the actual tally of votes rather than the Electoral College results too - I wonder whether they modelled for that.
Eventually the better pollsters will figure out how to model and when to apply a Shy Tory/Tom Bradley Effect accurately enough in the Western world, they've had two good looks at it in the last twelve months.
Did you not get the memo? The election race wast even close....
And different polls are showing vastly different thing in relation to Trumps popularity over the last few days.
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