Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles
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@Wurzel said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Foster and Boyd wouldn't fill me with confidence.
Why not?
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@Crucial said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
@jegga said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
@Hooroo said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
I see in the news this morning Smith is pumping Fozzie to take over from Hansen
@Hooroo said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
I see in the news this morning Smith is pumping Fozzie to take over from Hansen
Interesting, he knows what sort of coach he better than any of us but his time at the Chiefs still makes me wonder if he's up to it.
Fozzies biggest problem at the Chiefs was selections. He was so random and tried way to hard to mix it up. It was really baffling at times.
In an ABs set up he won't be the sole selector and will have probably learned a lot over these years. I reckon Shag and Smithie are pretty good judges so if they reckon he's the man then I wouldn't discount that at all.fozzies biggest problem at the chiefs was losing all the damn time.
then rennie took over and won, immediately.
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Hi I'm Chris Boyd, I've been riding Mark Hammett's coat tails for two and a half seasons
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@ACT-Crusader said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Hi I'm Chris Boyd, I've been riding Mark Hammett's coat tails for two and a half seasons
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@mariner4life said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
@Siam Hammett has as much chance of being an All Black coach as Ian fucking Foster
Foster has been part of an unbelievably successful All Blacks team. Wayne Smith thinks highly of him.
@rotated said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Pretty obvious candidate for me that hasn't been mentioned. That former Canterbury coach working in Japan seems like he would be and ideal candidate if he wanted to return to NZ. Clear ties going back with the Hansen, Tew, Shand infrastructure too.
He's burned those bridges. Fuck him.
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@antipodean said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Foster has been part of an unbelievably successful All Blacks team. Wayne Smith thinks highly of him.
Wayne Smith thinks highly of him, but Wayne Smith has never been a world reknowned columnist for the New Zealand Herald.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11860376
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@Salacious-Crumb fair point. Rattue's record of success can't be denied.
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@antipodean said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
He's burned those bridges. Fuck him.
How did he burn any bridges? He went as far as he could NZ without attempting to become an All Black in his mid 40s thus qualifying for a Super Rugby gig.
Penney would be opened back to NZ rugby I believe.
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@rotated said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
@antipodean said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
He's burned those bridges. Fuck him.
How did he burn any bridges? He went as far as he could NZ without attempting to become an All Black in his mid 40s thus qualifying for a Super Rugby gig.
Penney would be opened back to NZ rugby I believe.
We are both talking about Deans, yeah?
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@antipodean said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Foster has been part of an unbelievably successful All Blacks team. Wayne Smith thinks highly of him.
yeeeaaa, I'm going to go ahead and assume you have completely misread that tone of that post
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Key coaches Foster and Cron recommit through to the 2019 Rugby World Cup
http://www.allblacks.com/News/30818/key-coaches-foster-and-cron-recommit-through-to-2019
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when I heard on the radio this morning Foster has been on the AB panel since 2012 I couldn't quite believe it...he is supposed to be shit, but we aren't!
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@taniwharugby said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
when I heard on the radio this morning Foster has been on the AB panel since 2012 I couldn't quite believe it...he is supposed to be shit, but we aren't!
He's not lead the panel though
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@canefan had Hansen?
I think with the systems they have in place, and the fact he would have been working with Smith for 5 years and under Hansen for 7 years by then, don't think it would be an issue, pretty sure if he was rubbish, you'd get exposed in that environment.
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While it's easy to pile on Foster for his time at the Chiefs - it must remembered he was the first Chiefs coach to reach the semi finals in 2004 and then had the Chiefs as the best NZ team in 2009 reaching the Super rugby final. The years he coached the Chiefs the competition was much more competitive and playoff spots were fewer.
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@KiwiMurph said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
While it's easy to pile on Foster for his time at the Chiefs - it must remembered he was the first Chiefs coach to reach the semi finals in 2004 and then had the Chiefs as the best NZ team in 2009 reaching the Super rugby final. The years he coached the Chiefs the competition was much more competitive and playoff spots were fewer.
2004 - 4th
2005 - 6th
2006 - 7th
2007 - 6th
2008 - 7th
2009 - 2nd
2010 - 11th
2011 - 10thRennie:
2012 - 1st
2013 - 1st
2014 - 5th
2015 - 5th
2016 - 4th
2017 - currently 3rd based on points rather than the current stupid system.
playoffs every year.it's not a pile-on, it's just facts. foster's results at the chiefs were substandard, and shown to be that by rennie's subsequent success.
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@reprobate said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
@KiwiMurph said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
While it's easy to pile on Foster for his time at the Chiefs - it must remembered he was the first Chiefs coach to reach the semi finals in 2004 and then had the Chiefs as the best NZ team in 2009 reaching the Super rugby final. The years he coached the Chiefs the competition was much more competitive and playoff spots were fewer.
2004 - 4th
2005 - 6th
2006 - 7th
2007 - 6th
2008 - 7th
2009 - 2nd
2010 - 11th
2011 - 10thRennie:
2012 - 1st
2013 - 1st
2014 - 5th
2015 - 5th
2016 - 4th
2017 - currently 3rd based on points rather than the current stupid system.
playoffs every year.it's not a pile-on, it's just facts. foster's results at the chiefs were substandard, and shown to be that by rennie's subsequent success.
It's irrelevent now as he has learnt the AB way of doing things and Hansen has proved that a smooth transition from a successful coach onto someone in the setup allows minimal disruption. In fact, I would say it improved the team
