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    Virgil
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    We did drop 2 races each to BAR and Artamis so no need to panic.. yet

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    Still seemed like Burling out maneuvered Spithill in almost every phase today and just got unlucky with a dead spot of wind toward the end of race 2 there. Oracle are no doubt quicker than last weekend - but not so quick that ETNZ should not close this out.

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    I need to take a deep breath and remind myself Dean Barker is not involved. That dude's record when it counts is truly awful.

    But holy shit moment - Burling is only 26, and his list of achievements in sailing is pretty phenomenal.

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    Just beautiful start, hook by PB.
    The redemption is huge for me, 14 years after we lost the cup, 16 years after losing another PB, 4 years after we lost in San Fran, we are dominating.
    Redemption feels a little like 2011 and 2015...
    Go NZ!

    In a way, I wish we could have 10 more races to really rub this dominance into Coutts' face, but let's just be pleased with the wins!

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    So, ETNZ are up 6-1 after two wins today, and are now on match point.

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    @Wairau said in Americas Cup:

    Just beautiful start, hook by PB.
    The redemption is huge for me, 14 years after we lost the cup, 16 years after losing another PB, 4 years after we lost in San Fran, we are dominating.
    Redemption feels a little like 2011 and 2015...
    Go NZ!

    In a way, I wish we could have 10 more races to really rub this dominance into Coutts' face, but let's just be pleased with the wins!

    Im sure people were wishing San Fran was first to 7 instead of first to 9..
    But yeah, some great sailing by PB and his team.. Another 100% fly time..

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    Interesting comment i heard this morning about Oracle.

    They have spent the past few years and millions of dollars on tech, development and training for this campaign, yet in 5 days they find more speed.

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    What's the difference between the Skipper and the Helmsman. I assumed it was one of the same thing but I see someone else is skipper on Emirates

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    @Hooroo said in Americas Cup:

    What's the difference between the Skipper and the Helmsman. I assumed it was one of the same thing but I see someone else is skipper on Emirates

    Ashby is TNZ skipper too, not Burling

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    @mimic almost like drugs in most high performance sports!! except they deny that's the case in most instances 🙂

    I can tolerate the spying (just), but the litigation and just outright loading of rules etc to favour the holders really gets me. Sometimes it feels like the sailing is a sideline, then they get on the water and all that extra stuff falls away.

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    gotta say Burling is one cool operator!

    Doesn't give much away.

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    Virgil
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    Any footage yet of Coutts yelling at and abusing Spithill?

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    @Virgil Not yet, we do have Burling waving goodbye to Jimmy
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11881963

    alt text

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    @taniwharugby Apparently they made the boat 100kg lighter by taking bits off it. But presumably those bits were doing something so maybe they sacrificed something else to do it.

    Boats now looking very similar in speed but it doesn't look like Oracle can afford to lose the start. Wonder if the fact that the NZ roles are shared between Burling, Ashby and Tuke means they can react a lot quicker - especially as they all seem to be thinking the same way (given how much time Burling and Tuke have spent sailing together)

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    taniwharugby
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    @KiwiPie even the image in the post before yours, highlights the aerodynamic advantage ETNZ has with the grinders vs cyclists

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    @KiwiPie said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby Apparently they made the boat 100kg lighter by taking bits off it. But presumably those bits were doing something so maybe they sacrificed something else to do it.

    Boats now looking very similar in speed but it doesn't look like Oracle can afford to lose the start. Wonder if the fact that the NZ roles are shared between Burling, Ashby and Tuke means they can react a lot quicker - especially as they all seem to be thinking the same way (given how much time Burling and Tuke have spent sailing together)

    Originally Spithill was sceptical of our division of labour but many of the comms have suggested this is a signicant key to our success. The responsibilities of Spithill and Slingsby have been divided in such a way that they can concentrate on their individual tasks more keenly, ie Ashby and his Xbox and Tuke trimming the foils while riding the bike

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    Will oracle undo some of their upgrades/changes now?
    Sounds like they pretty much have an uncontrollable boat.
    A lot faster but harder to sail and keep stable. If they hadn't fucked up the start and or come off the foils they probably would have cleaned us up.
    Sounds like they are running a V8 engine in a Toyota Vitz body, and run by a pretty clueless crew

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    This cup buts a bit of a different spin on Spithill's career a bit.

    Comprehensively out-sailed by Burling at the starts and many unforced errors under pressure both at the start and in key moments on the water.

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    taniwharugby
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    @rotated whats better, is if we deal to them in the first race tomorrow, he will be stuck on the same wins as Coutts as 'leading AC skipper'

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    @canefan And Ashby can play games/post to Facebook to keep himself occupied while the others steer and pedal

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