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"Western values" and "western culture" is now allegedly shorthand for Nazism. Lots of lunatic liberals saying as much today. Trump Derangement Syndrome now infers Churchill was a Nazi too, you learn something new every day. Charlie Cooke just observed, "The speed with which we move from “he’s destroying Western leadership” to “he’s a Western chauvinist” is remarkable and terrifying."
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Seems CNN intends on beclowning themselves on a daily basis. This is not the actions of a 12 year old, but a reporter from what claims to be a serious news outlet.
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@Salacious-Crumb All very well and yes it is something of a mess but the (much) bigger story should be that three agencies ARE investigating possible foreign interference in the US election. That is yuuuge but seemingly lost in a lot of he said/she said trivial shite.
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@Catogrande Sums up the real issue doesn't it. Media through their own dumb fault are the boy who cried wolf. How long before we get to a point where Trump could do something really wrong and no-one will believe the coverage?..maybe we are at that point now.
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@Rembrandt Agreed and this self inflicted damage that much of MSM has achieved is now becoming THE story. Now it is a story worth coverage and in the long term is pretty damned important but to allow it to deflect from hugely important current affairs is a mistake of monumental proportions.
No matter where the blame might lie.
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the truly bizarre thing to me is that trump is a notorious liar, exaaggerator etc. he just makes shit up, spouts off with no evidence - and is happy as a pig in shit with it. just brushes it off when it is pointed out t be false. eg obama birth, wiretapping, comey tapes, voter fraud, etc etc. he trivialises and ignores serious issues (russia) which don't suit him.
then CNN retracts a story because it turned out false - they ran it on 1 source without confirmation. people get sacked. sure they show bias, as do Fox etc.and you have trump's supporters crying in outrage at the 'fake news', lies of the MSM etc. which is exactly what trump does, all of the time. he has exactly the media he deserves.
the double standard is hilarious, and that is the real trump derangement syndrome right there.
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@reprobate said in US Politics:
the truly bizarre thing to me is that trump is a notorious liar, exaaggerator etc. he just makes shit up, spouts off with no evidence - and is happy as a pig in shit with it. just brushes it off when it is pointed out t be false. eg obama birth, wiretapping, comey tapes, voter fraud, etc etc. he trivialises and ignores serious issues (russia) which don't suit him.
then CNN retracts a story because it turned out false - they ran it on 1 source without confirmation. people get sacked. sure they show bias, as do Fox etc.and you have trump's supporters crying in outrage at the 'fake news', lies of the MSM etc. which is exactly what trump does, all of the time. he has exactly the media he deserves.
the double standard is hilarious, and that is the real trump derangement syndrome right there.
Yeah nah.. except you seem to be working under the assumption this is all about one network and one story.. it isn't. This is about systemic FAR left bias in the MSM.
Which is now finally being exposed.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback yeah nah. he does lie, he does exaggerate, he does make shit up. he does spout off without evidence.
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Theory: This is one of Trump's tactics to play the media.
Tweet below.
He purposely makes the mistake of saying John Podesta was in charge of the DNC, not Debbie Wasserman-Schulz. MSM will jump all over the 'mistake' and say what an idiot he is for not knowing that, inadvertently reporting the real question of the tweet. Without this 'mistake', they will not report it. -
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@Catogrande said in US Politics:
@Salacious-Crumb All very well and yes it is something of a mess but the (much) bigger story should be that three agencies ARE investigating possible foreign interference in the US election. That is yuuuge but seemingly lost in a lot of he said/she said trivial shite.
Yeah, three agencies who can't even agree on an "assessment," and they have ZERO evidence for any of it.
What's yuuuuge is same "hand-picked" intelligence clowns swore to us that not only did Saddam have stockpiles of mushroom clouds but they "we know where they are," with the cute little caveat of "just imagine."
The reason these so-called "investigations" (translations - "fishing expeditions" and "witch-hunts") are even a matter is because the Podesta gang came up with this conspiracy-a-go-go sewer garbage as an excuse within 24 hours of their girl Hillary going catatonic and cowardly unable to give a concession speech to her supporters.
At this point it's entirely politically driven. They can't find ANY evidence so are now proceeding with ridiculous "obstruction" charges despite still not getting DNC and Podesta servers entered as evidence, just the same b.s.
Rooskiegate is the new WMD redux, and a paid third-party Crowdstrike telling us to "Trust us" is the new "Just imagine."
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@Frank said in US Politics:
Theory: This is one of Trump's tactics to play the media.
Tweet below.
He purposely makes the mistake of saying John Podesta was in charge of the DNC, not Debbie Wasserman-Schulz. MSM will jump all over the 'mistake' and say what an idiot he is for not knowing that, inadvertently reporting the real question of the tweet. Without this 'mistake', they will not report it.It is a good trick, but he's conflating the two. It's BOTH the DNC server AND the Podesta server that they are refusing to turn over. The "Resistance" needs to drag this scam out for as long as possible before it gets confirmed as a colossal hoax. Fifteen years ago NYT millionaire columnist Tom Friedman kept giving us what are now called "Friedman Units" about the search for WMD. Oh, they're there, he'd swear, "just give us six more months," rinse-recycle-repeat every six months. That's what Podesta and gang are trying to pull off here. The same six-more-month nonsense, we'll keep deep-sea fishing until we catch a guppy.
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@Salacious-Crumb hang on a sec. All the stuff about the Russians trying to influence the election is a never happened lie, just partisan nonsense from the democrats no? But these are the same people responsible for the WMD stuff with Bush? Didn't realise that one was a democrat conspiracy too.
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@reprobate said in US Politics:
@Salacious-Crumb hang on a sec. All the stuff about the Russians trying to influence the election is a never happened lie, just partisan nonsense from the democrats no? But these are the same people responsible for the WMD stuff with Bush? Didn't realise that one was a democrat conspiracy too.
You've bought into the fake paradigm that pro-war intelligence agencies -- what Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Supreme Commander WW2 and US President during Cold War, warned about the "Military Industrial Complex" -- exclusively wears a red tie or a blue tie. Isn't it possible they might wear both? Or neither?? Trump ran against the Establishment -- including the warmonger globalists in BOTH parties. Same intelligence agencies that swore to us about aluminum tubes and yellowcake and anthrax and Niger forgeries and balsa-wood drones nuking London in 45 minutes and "we know where the WMD are" are the same agencies "assessing" that Rooskies stole emails from a server that John Podesta refuses to turn over to the FBI. Please excuse my deeply-irrational common-sense skepticism.
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