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@MajorRage said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@Hooroo looked st least 22.25 or so! HUGE
22.08 it was recorded at. He has appealed his non throw and could take the medal off Tom
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Heard Seb Coe on radio this morning. Definitely unhappy about Gatlin competing. Made point IAAF had tried first to get a lifetime ban and then an eight year ban but first Gatlin's first ban was watered down and then IAAF bans were overturned.
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@Paekakboyz said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@MajorRage problem for me is that a lot of ped use offers benefits after you've stopped taking them. So those athletes have gained an advantage, and continue to benefit even after they sit out their ban and come back 'clean'. For a guy like Gatland that's been done twice that's just a rort imo.
But the rules let him compete... can't blame Gatland for that.
He deservedly gets boo-ed though!
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Deserved every last boo! twice caught and he expects to be cheered??!
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Having read around the subject, the first ban does seem to have been handled badly.
He and from what I gather others had been on a prescribed ADHD medication which contained a banned substance, namely amphetamine.
Gatlin had been on it since childhood and way before his athletic success. He was banned, others weren't.
However I have no doubt the testosterone cream story was horse shit, and as far as I'm concerned it should be one and done.
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@mikedogz said in iaaf world championships 2017:
Bolt third, New talent Justin Coleman Second and Justin Gatlin First in the mens 100m. In my mind there is an Asterix by Gatlins name because of his drug cheat history.
If Bolt, the greatest of all time, can accept the result and plaudit the winner, I see no reason for anybody else being so churlish, cynical and small-minded as to deny Gatlin his victory. They lined up, they ran, he won. They drug-tested, he passed. Bolt didn't get the win, but he walks away with even more grace and class. Pity his supporters can't follow his lead and do the same.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@mikedogz said in iaaf world championships 2017:
Bolt third, New talent Justin Coleman Second and Justin Gatlin First in the mens 100m. In my mind there is an Asterix by Gatlins name because of his drug cheat history.
If Bolt, the greatest of all time, can accept the result and plaudit the winner, I see no reason for anybody else being so churlish, cynical and small-minded as to deny Gatlin his victory. They lined up, they ran, he won. They drug-tested, he passed. Bolt didn't get the win, but he walks away with even more grace and class. Pity his supporters can't follow his lead and do the same.
Does it really matter what Bolt says in regard to this issue? Sure, he has reacted with grace but you have no idea whether or not he is sincere or playing the game and protecting his image. Also just because he is the greatest of all time does not make his opinion necessarily right.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@mikedogz said in iaaf world championships 2017:
Bolt third, New talent Justin Coleman Second and Justin Gatlin First in the mens 100m. In my mind there is an Asterix by Gatlins name because of his drug cheat history.
If Bolt, the greatest of all time, can accept the result and plaudit the winner, I see no reason for anybody else being so churlish, cynical and small-minded as to deny Gatlin his victory. They lined up, they ran, he won. They drug-tested, he passed. Bolt didn't get the win, but he walks away with even more grace and class. Pity his supporters can't follow his lead and do the same.
Actually, the reason I'm not a supporter of Bolt and am pretty cynical about most sports is precisely because of people like Justin Gatlin. Drug takers have cast a long shadow over sport for their own aggrandizement and enrichment. So fuck those guys.
So I'll certainly wear "cynical" - but I'm inclined not to wear "churlish" and I'm certainly not going to wear "small-minded".
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@Chris-B. said in iaaf world championships 2017:
Actually, the reason I'm not a supporter of Bolt and am pretty cynical about most sports is precisely because of people like Justin Gatlin. Drug takers have cast a long shadow over sport for their own aggrandizement and enrichment. So fuck those guys.
List below of the fastest 100 m times ever. Drug cheats ruled out in red. Basically, you have to believe that Bolt, clean, out-ran everyone else in history by a fair margin (>0.2s), while they were doing drugs.
It's like Lance who was clean when he beat Jan Ullrich, the cyclist of the generation, while Jan was doping. Oh wait, hang on, Lance was juiced as well.
Fark me, I"m getting cynical in my old age.
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Also, this is interesting and seems to sum up where my cynical brain is at.
https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e
PS: stole the list above from Reddit. Fair play to source that shit.
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@Rapido said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@Siam said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@dogmeat I definitely believe he was mate 😊
Fresh Up.
Note to self: Never take Rapido angling
"I see a fish, you want me to throw stones at it so you can see it too?"
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@nzzp said in iaaf world championships 2017:
Also, this is interesting and seems to sum up where my cynical brain is at.
https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e
PS: stole the list above from Reddit. Fair play to source that shit.
Great read, and presented this way it certainly makes you think 'how gullible am I to fall for this again?'
The only thing I'm holding on to is Bolt has had so many winner's tests over a long period of time, with him as an athlete under different training regimes and 'masters', that for only him to slide through undetected seems very implausible.
Or is he 'too big to fail?'
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@MiketheSnow said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@nzzp said in iaaf world championships 2017:
Also, this is interesting and seems to sum up where my cynical brain is at.
https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e
PS: stole the list above from Reddit. Fair play to source that shit.
Great read, and presented this way it certainly makes you think 'how gullible am I to fall for this again?'
The only thing I'm holding on to is Bolt has had so many winner's tests over a long period of time, with him as an athlete under different training regimes and 'masters', that for only him to slide through undetected seems very implausible.
Or is he 'too big to fail?'
That's the worry isn't it? We all want him to be clean so badly. Are there too many vested interests? I really hope this isn't the case. The thing I cling to is that he could have retired after Rio with his position cemented in, why risk things further when he'd already accomplished so much? He didn't look like he was going to break any records again.
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@Catogrande said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@MiketheSnow said in iaaf world championships 2017:
@nzzp said in iaaf world championships 2017:
Also, this is interesting and seems to sum up where my cynical brain is at.
https://medium.com/@tomnew/usain-bolt-lance-armstrong-and-the-duck-test-303b7b891e7e
PS: stole the list above from Reddit. Fair play to source that shit.
Great read, and presented this way it certainly makes you think 'how gullible am I to fall for this again?'
The only thing I'm holding on to is Bolt has had so many winner's tests over a long period of time, with him as an athlete under different training regimes and 'masters', that for only him to slide through undetected seems very implausible.
Or is he 'too big to fail?'
That's the worry isn't it? We all want him to be clean so badly. Are there too many vested interests? I really hope this isn't the case. The thing I cling to is that he could have retired after Rio with his position cemented in, why risk things further when he'd already accomplished so much? He didn't look like he was going to break any records again.
Messiah Complex? Drinking his own Kool-Aid?
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@MiketheSnow Ha! Could be either but he comes across as a bit too grounded. Maybe I'm just looking for reasons to believe he's clean.
