Sky TV
-
<p>Related.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><img src="https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13254575_1096344687091400_7601775431735102178_n.png?oh=3043aefacfba591330c136c38ae0e96e&oe=57D11A06" alt="13254575_1096344687091400_76017754317351"></p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="580546" data-time="1463543056">
<div>
<p>I think there is a severe ignorance from most people about the challenges Sky faces and the benefits it brings to all of us.</p>
<p>NZ sport needs Sky, Skysports is not a standalone entity, it has to be bundled with a basic package, otherwise they either charge a fortune for Sports alone, or they dont get much money.. and therefore cannot afford to sponsor or pay much for sport.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Some of you guys need to be REALLY careful of what you wish for. The online model is fucking horrible for consumers. If you want as direct comparison, look at Netflix, Neon, Lightbox etc etc.. what a bloody horrible system. I like a few shows that each one of those has.. what am i supposed to do? get all 3? pay for all 3? Great.. I am paying $45 a month for ... standard TV.. and we have not even got to Sports yet. </p>
<p>The online crowd that got english soccer this year .. not getting it next year... to expensive. No money in it. But lets say they were breaking even.. another crowd gets golf (already happened), another gets cricket.. a 3rd gets rugby.. a 4th gets league.... and another gets some of the US sports.</p>
<p>I have to subscribe to 6-7 services just to get my sports? Fuck that.. it is expensive and a pain in the ass. And the kicker.... they probably wouldn't support NZ sport as much... no money in college sport. No money in club rugby.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>So lets say I ditch some of the sports I like.. and only pay to watch just Rugby ,cricket.. and some US sports.. probably at least another $40 a month? And what exactly do I have?</p>
<p>Less than I currently do and 6-7 logins and online issues.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I am not as fan of the way things are going, and I think the consumer is going to pay.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I think Sky do an average job of customer relations, but they are convenient as hell, and the cost is very reasonable. Sure I wish I could get just sport for $30 a month.. but I also wish Netflix had every single decent program in the world.. wasn't geo blocked and only cost $8 a month.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p> </p>
<p>This is more or less what happened in the UK.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Used to be able to get Sky Sports 1 & 2 & you had literally all the good sport going.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>People hated that Sky was getting all the good sport. BT got given a leg up by the regulator. So now you can watch cricket & 50% of premership soccer on Sky, if you want to watch British & European club rugby you need BT. Test rugby is still on Sky. And the other 50% of the soccer? on BT. As is the champions league soccer.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>And Sky used to show almost all the top line sport (rugby, soccer cricket) on Sky sports 1 & 2. But then the regulator made them make those available to Virgin. So now the Rugby Championship games are on Sky Sports 4.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>So its a nice competitive market, in which the viewer is fucked. </p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11652781'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11652781</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Sky to buy Vodafone...?</p> -
<p>About to switch Sports back on for the test and Mitre 10 Cup, but thought I'd check out how much Fanpass is - $14.99 for a day, $19.99 per week or $55.99 for a month! </p>
<p> </p>
<p>So 2 months worth of sports on my TV for the same price it costs for a month on Fanpass....wonder if the merger will make that price better? </p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="586119" data-time="1465539842"><p>
About to switch Sports back on for the test and Mitre 10 Cup, but thought I'd check out how much Fanpass is - $14.99 for a day, $19.99 per week or $55.99 for a month! <br><br>
So 2 months worth of sports on my TV for the same price it costs for a month on Fanpass....wonder if the merger will make that price better?</p></blockquote>
<br>
Probably not - the fanpass doesn't require having Sky at all, so if you don't want basic Sky, the fanpass is cheaper than Sky + Sky Sport. They can't make it too much cheaper or people will start cutting the cord. -
Disagree....but anyway, hope fan pass streaming is better than SkyGo....I thought I'd try that last night to free up the main tv...jeez I just as well used one of the free streams you can find. <br><br>
Will this merger fix this issue? -
Big problem with Fanpass is that it only shows events on SS1,2,3 and 4. Anything shown on a pop up channel doesn't come through. Sky tend to put many major events on pop ups now (F1, V8s, Tennis, Euro, Olympics etc)<br>
As for Sky(not)Go, I suspect they are actually using offshore providers to provide the servers for the stream. I am also guessing that they pay by capacity. If they underestimate then it crashes for many users. For NZ rugby games the stream is probably crossing the pacific twice before you get it and they are also possibly paying for bandwidth on the cable as well. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Godder" data-cid="581204" data-time="1463805183"><p>
Allegedly, Tunnelbear is a great VPN - no logging, very simple to use, strong security, mobile options as well.<br><br>
Allegedly Ironsocket is also a great VPN - no logging, strong security, still works with Netflix...<br><br>
Or so I've heard...</p></blockquote>
<br>
Yeah Tunnel bear works for both the website and the (android) app.<br><br>
While you only get 500mb free per month with tunnel bear, one you've logged in to Rugby Pass you can switch off the vpn straight away. So no need to pay for it as well.<br><br>
So my mate says etc etc -
Do they mean night?
-
wonder what thier response will be, put prices up to balance all the customers they lost?
TBF they have my $ through to the end of M10Cup...which I only turned back on at the start of M10 cup
-
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11933728
Sky and Vodafone are outflanking the commerce commission with Vodafone TV. Only a matter of time before we can watch the ABs online with voda or in a strategic partnership with Amazon
-
Sky and Vodafone are outflanking the commerce commission with Vodafone TV. Only a matter of time before we can watch the ABs online with voda or in a strategic partnership with Amazon
That is really good news for me. I still have Sky but at $113 a month (2 rooms, own my own decoders) it is really expensive. Free lightbox and netflix through other providers means there is plenty to watch. I just don't want to lose the sports coverage.
So how do you blokes (in NZ) do it?
-
So how do you blokes (in NZ) do it?
Ditched Sky this January. Don't really miss it much. Go to mates places for big games, or watch on youtube when it's uplaoded a couple of hours afterwards. Occasionally do a dodgy livestream, but the quality is iffy ... you get what you pay for. Ran FanPass for a few months, but dropped it when the price changed.
Would seriously consider a bundle with Fibre and Vodafone when they get into our street early next year ... ubt you need unlimited data to really do video over the net
-
@nzzp Have unlimited data but our new place is rural. I seem to have good download speed up there but unlikely to ever get what city folk get (yes, I have ordered a Banjo).
I really enjoy my sports so need something equivalent to Sky, if that is possible?
-
I have Sky as I cant get Freeview via Digital, I will be turning Sports off (likely on Saturday...) as I only have it for NPC, been a long time since I got up for AB tests in the middle of the night so will likely just watch afternoon replay for EOYT.
There are other options available (apparently not illegal? just dodgy) but are often unreliable.
I barely watch any normal TV, have to convince the wife she doesn't need to watch all her trashy TV stuff and Animal programs so I can ditch it all together...I can see how that will go!
-
@taniwharugby said in Sky TV:
I barely watch any normal TV, have to convince the wife she doesn't need to watch all her trashy TV stuff and Animal programs so I can ditch it all together...I can see how that will go!
I will have that issue. Change is difficult.
So being a lazy shit, and not googling - freeview will get me TV 1,2,3 prime and a couple of others?
I can just get a decoder and I will have those channels? Can I use my existing SKY ones that I own but won't use their feed?
-
@snowy most importantly it has Parliament TV!!
Yeah think Duke, Maori, Choice, the +1 channels as well...We have a Freeview decoder on one of our TVs and I think that's what is on it.
As to the decoder you have, no idea, I guess it would work like a freeview one and just pick up the free channels for you?
-
while I can understand the reasons for this, IMO Sky are doing this for the wrong ones, and as usual the wrong way, although not sure how it would be the right way..
They have a poor platform, limited products and pushing prices up and wonder why consumers are looking for alternatives (legit or not)
