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  • KruseK Offline
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    @crucial said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @mikethesnow said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @crucial said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @taniwharugby said in AB Test Team v France.:

    Not sure who the 2 comms are for Rugby pass, but they are muppets

    Possibly the same ones we are getting in the UK for Premier Sports (which I had to sign up to just for one game, the fuckers).
    For the first 20 minutes we just had the refs mike which was more entertaining

    He sounds posh Welsh

    Any ideas?

    Is there such a thing?

    If you're an 18 year-old girl, with no kids = posh welsh.

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    @pakman said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @booboo said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @tregaskis said in AB Test Team v France.:

    See ya Slimani.

    About here in the thread posters are askjng who the beIN commentators were:

    1. Good question: do we know yet?
    2. I'm pretty sure I heard the antipodean comments dude call Slimani "the best prop in the world". Can those up North or who follow NH footy more than me comment?

    TBF Slimani is usually technically better than any of the British (Isles) THs, with the possible exception of W P Nel. And also one of top two or three in France (not that I get to see enough Top 14 to be able to be sure). I don't think Gardner really knew what was going on. French were trying to tell him that Hames was pushing up and in (he was at 45 degrees in some scrums), which forced Slimani to push down to counter. His usual tactic is to bore in and lift.

    Really? WP Nel has to be one of the most overrated players. And I’d take Irelands Furlong over Slimani any day.

    Gardner was a bit average alright though. Luckily our own kiwi ref had a decent game in Dublin.

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    @bones said in AB Test Team v France.:

    That English fluffybunny commentator. What a grade A fuckwit! Reminded me of those English "fans" that you got popping up around 2003, probably thinks anyone brown in the ABs is poached. Among other doozeys, a couple of standouts for me:

    • Calling for Ofa to be sent off for cleaning out Vaamahina. Ignoring the fact Vaamahina just did the exact same thing.

    • Momentarily starting to ponder who had played well for the ABs when MOM was raised, only to immediately state no it has to go to a French player. They just had their score doubled you dickhead.

    Adding in some pedantic complaints:

    • Mixing up the terms "inside" vs "outside" twice in the same play
    • A moment when they referred to "Read off Barrett", or similar (can't remember the actual players), when it was actually "Barrett off Read"
    • "dark science"... when talking about scrummaging. The term you're looking for is "dark arts", you fucking morons

    And generally, as others have already mentioned

    • A constant flow of bullshit from their mouths, through RugbyPass, into my ears - which started bleeding about 10 minutes in - so I was struggling to hear the ref when he was having an interesting chat with the front rows at some point - due to the shit-and-blood clogging my eardrums
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    @billy-tell said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @pakman said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @booboo said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @tregaskis said in AB Test Team v France.:

    See ya Slimani.

    About here in the thread posters are askjng who the beIN commentators were:

    1. Good question: do we know yet?
    2. I'm pretty sure I heard the antipodean comments dude call Slimani "the best prop in the world". Can those up North or who follow NH footy more than me comment?

    TBF Slimani is usually technically better than any of the British (Isles) THs, with the possible exception of W P Nel. And also one of top two or three in France (not that I get to see enough Top 14 to be able to be sure). I don't think Gardner really knew what was going on. French were trying to tell him that Hames was pushing up and in (he was at 45 degrees in some scrums), which forced Slimani to push down to counter. His usual tactic is to bore in and lift.

    Really? WP Nel has to be one of the most overrated players. And I’d take Irelands Furlong over Slimani any day.

    Gardner was a bit average alright though. Luckily our own kiwi ref had a decent game in Dublin.

    To be clear, I do think Furlong is clearly best (overall) TH in North. But in pure scrummaging terms I'd rate Ryan ahead, and Slimani. W P Nel was voted TH in last RWC XV, but haven't seem him playing in last year or so, much of which he's been injured for. Very much a scrummager, though: not seem too often in loose.

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    @higgins last 9 and 10 was Preston..you mean for ABs? As France had a 9/10 switcher at last RWC I vaguely recall..

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    @canefan said in AB Test Team v France.:

    Sonny is going to cost us a big game some day

    Dont come too much bigger than the second lions test

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    @booboo nah he loves his 1st 15 as he is always going on about MAGS, so it's since he left he was scorned.

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    @arhs there were several kicks they were well in front and that may have been one, harsh rule lesson for SBW.

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    So we went to France and smacked them by 20 points. Not three bad at all!

    Our wingers are really really neat!

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    @hooroo said in AB Test Team v France.:

    So we went to France and smacked them by 20 points. Not three bad at all!

    Our wingers are really really neat!

    Thats the message I was trying to get through amongst the grumbling and crying during the game.

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    I'm curious, anyone know why you cant bat the ball over the dead ball line, what is the point of the rule?

    I mean what if you attempt to catch up, just get a finger to it and it goes dead, same result?

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    @taniwharugby said in AB Test Team v France.:

    I'm curious, anyone know why you cant bat the ball over the dead ball line, what is the point of the rule?

    I mean what if you attempt to catch up, just get a finger to it and it goes dead, same result?

    I had this conversation on here with @antipodean I think. He came up with a reasonable reason I think.

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    @taniwharugby same reason you can't throw the ball out deliberately I guess. So no, accidental is not purposely putting the ball out of bounds.

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    @bones said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @taniwharugby same reason you can't throw the ball out deliberately I guess. So no, accidental is not purposely putting the ball out of bounds.

    Yep. All comes under the same law. Players cannot deliberately make the ball cross a touchline except by kicking it.

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    @crucial said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @bones said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @taniwharugby same reason you can't throw the ball out deliberately I guess. So no, accidental is not purposely putting the ball out of bounds.

    Yep. All comes under the same law. Players cannot deliberately make the ball cross a touchline except by kicking it.

    Que?

    Running out with it?

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    doesn't really answer the question.

    As for it being accidental and deliberate, plenty of other examples where this is purely on the ref (obviously in this, there was no disputing he did it deliberately)

    I mean the only way the Frenchie scores in that game is if SBW isn't there, but he is, he is inches taller than the guy, so SBW was always going to get to the ball, he hasn't impeded the guy, hasn't done anything dangerous, just a mungo moment, making the rule removing him from the equation (which refs don't always apply anyway) just seems daft.

    So the way the rule is written, for this instance (yes I know re-writing a rule for this scenario is daft and wont happen) the penalty is pretty extreme and disproportionate.

    They were saying on the radio this same thing happened in a NZ v Ireland game when an Irishman batted the ball dead and we got the PT....

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    @booboo said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @crucial said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @bones said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @taniwharugby same reason you can't throw the ball out deliberately I guess. So no, accidental is not purposely putting the ball out of bounds.

    Yep. All comes under the same law. Players cannot deliberately make the ball cross a touchline except by kicking it.

    Que?

    Running out with it?

    That's not to say I disagree with the deliberate throw or bat out being a penalty.

    Perhaps you mean "propel"?

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    @bones said in AB Test Team v France.:

    Funny to read people call SBW dumb for not knowing the rules, then immediately in uproar at a penalty try being awarded...is that irony?

    No idea. Will need to call in a foreign irony-assessor consultant. Outside our collective area of expertise.

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    @rapido said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @bones said in AB Test Team v France.:

    Funny to read people call SBW dumb for not knowing the rules, then immediately in uproar at a penalty try being awarded...is that irony?

    No idea. Will need to call in a foreign irony-assessor consultant. Outside our collective area of expertise.

    Yeah. I think that could be irony. It's certainly better than rain on your wedding day or a black fly in your chardonnay.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @booboo said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @booboo said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @crucial said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @bones said in AB Test Team v France.:

    @taniwharugby same reason you can't throw the ball out deliberately I guess. So no, accidental is not purposely putting the ball out of bounds.

    Yep. All comes under the same law. Players cannot deliberately make the ball cross a touchline except by kicking it.

    Que?

    Running out with it?

    That's not to say I disagree with the deliberate throw or bat out being a penalty.

    Perhaps you mean "propel"?

    Sorry, thought that part was obvious.

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