Veitch is done
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@no-quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Veich shouldn't be punished forever for his crimes, but he also needs to be real. A career in the public eye was never going to end well, he needs to just get a job outside of the public eye and everyone will pretty quickly forget all about him.
Yeah I think it's all his triumphant smug attitude on how he's back on radio against the odds that really got up people's noses. We're a great nation of tall poppy bashers ( probably not the best choice of word ) and him mentioning that without acknowledging the ex quite understandably made people think he was a complete self centred fluffybunny.
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@damo said in Veitch is done:
Not before time.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/100074086/tony-veitch-quits-his-radio-show
While I'm happy to see the end of Veitch, I am a little concerned at the plan to replace the sports show with a show focusing on "DIY tips, gardening, cooking, comment and analysis of the week's news and sport,"
I really hope that Radio Sport continue to to have a sports show on the weekend. The Radio Live show on Saturday and Sunday is good, but only runs from 2-6pm.
Fuck him and the horse he rode into town on.
If I miss an AB test which happens more frequently these days I know I have the fern to jump on for about 20 pages of decent analysis.
Where else will I find tips on finding studs in the wall, what time of year to plant my daffodils or how to make the perfect quiche?
This new show sounds awesome.
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@virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Its not like he was universally popular and liked before the abuse came to light either.
Agreed, he’s always been a shouty little Matt Dawson type . The response from his co workers suggests he’s actually more obnoxious than most people already assumed.
It’s kind of odd that such a sports mad country has for the most part pretty ordinary sports media .
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@damo said in Veitch is done:
Not before time.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/100074086/tony-veitch-quits-his-radio-show
While I'm happy to see the end of Veitch, I am a little concerned at the plan to replace the sports show with a show focusing on "DIY tips, gardening, cooking, comment and analysis of the week's news and sport,"
I really hope that Radio Sport continue to to have a sports show on the weekend. The Radio Live show on Saturday and Sunday is good, but only runs from 2-6pm.
I wonder whether this also means they won't be having live commentary for Mitre 10 Cup games anymore. I sometimes listened to radio commentary while watching the game on tv, if Marshall, Lose or Laban were calling the games for Sky.
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@stargazer those are usually done locally, cant see why it might affect them
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@crucial said in Veitch is done:
So he's going to set up his own online sports show? Good luck getting anyone to pay for that.
He does have 200k facebook likes. If you want to reach NZ sports fans, that is a bloody good way to do it. His page is one of the biggest NZ social media pages.
Veitch was very good at what he did. Some of his interviews were excellent and his passion for sport was unmatched. On the other hand, he did sometimes manufacture issues. Obviously the big thing hanging over his head was the violent assault which it never seemed he fully grasped the seriousness of.
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@hydro11 said in Veitch is done:
@crucial said in Veitch is done:
So he's going to set up his own online sports show? Good luck getting anyone to pay for that.
He does have 200k facebook likes. If you want to reach NZ sports fans, that is a bloody good way to do it. His page is one of the biggest NZ social media pages.
Veitch was very good at what he did. Some of his interviews were excellent and his passion for sport was unmatched. On the other hand, he did sometimes manufacture issues. Obviously the big thing hanging over his head was the violent assault which it never seemed he fully grasped the seriousness of.
Half the time he sounded like he wanted to blow his male guests. The fanboy shit was cringeworthy
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The optics of having a broadcaster on-air that everybody knew pig-stomped his partner into a wheelchair, has always been awful. And that he could remain so smug and shit-grinning sure of himself just made him unwatchable. He and his opinions don't deserve my time.
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Ran into him at Lords, he was nearly forcibly dragging around an elderly AB legend, and seemed coked off his tits. But maybe that's just his normal shit-eating self.
Edit:"Good fucking riddance to a piece of human filth", doesn't quite do it justice.
... after reading all the media type people's twitter rejoicing, I felt dirty agreeing with them. So toning this post down a bit. -
@salacious-crumb said in Veitch is done:
He and his opinions don't deserve my time.
Who listened for his opinions? His ability to get high profile, relevant guests on and usually ask a decent slate of questions was why people listened.
I kind of went the other way on Veitch - I think he is a talented broadcaster. His style wasn't always for me - but variety is nice and the first 2-3 hours of the Saturday program leading into a test or the Sunday after was usually decent listening. I might prefer to listen to Devlin, or hate listen to Watson because they might get into things a little deeper or have an interesting take or two - but to be able to produce a mainstream long format show like his isn't something either of them would be capable of.
The domestic violence stuff obviously is the elephant in the room, and his statement this year was ill advised - but if a lot of high profile people who I respect across all areas of sport are happy to appear on his show (I'm not aware of anyone publicly boycotting it as far as I know) then I'm not going to hold myself to some higher moral standard. There is no perfect answer to any of that - I don't know when we can say he has paid his penance - and what platforms he should or shouldn't be given until he has.
I'm not sure Vietch has shown any more/less contrition than most of the ABs who got name suppression throughout the 00's - including one particularly egregious case where he went to play in the RWC that year, then for another 4 years. So who is to say?
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@kruse said in Veitch is done:
Ran into him at Lords, he was nearly forcibly dragging around an elderly AB legend, and seemed coked off his tits. But maybe that's just his normal shit-eating self.
Edit:"Good fucking riddance to a piece of human filth", doesn't quite do it justice.
... after reading all the media type people's twitter rejoicing, I felt dirty agreeing with them. So toning this post down a bit.What's interesting is the rejoicing is related to his workplace behaviour, especially to one or two staff members. It doesn't really have anything to do with his history of domestic violence
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/100077881/sport-journos-respond-to-veitchs-exit
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Sports broadcaster Martin Devlin has slammed his colleagues for celebrating Tony Veitch leaving the NZME network.
Devlin, who has a regular show with the NZME-owned Radio Sport, described their behaviour as "cheap, toady & disappointing".
Numerous sports journalists, including some of Veitch's former colleagues, celebrated on social media on Thursday when the NZME radio network announced Veitch's long-running Newstalk ZB show Veitch on Saturdays would air its last show this weekend.
"I know all these people. And I can only say how cheap, toady & disappointing. So big & brave to fire away now? This only says more about you all than it does the point you're trying to make. I really thought most of you were bigger as people but no," Devlin said.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
"I know all these people. And I can only say how cheap, toady & disappointing. So big & brave to fire away now? This only says more about you all than it does the point you're trying to make. I really thought most of you were bigger as people but no," Devlin said.
Presumably this attitude from Devlin applies to the pile-on for Weinstein and others?
Personally I'm pleased he's gone. I generally chose not to listen to him, and while you can choose to offer him a platform, you can't make people listen. So F U NZME, I voted with my feet.
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