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@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Is Trump still an idiot though?..a meany, a bully, crass, offensive etc I could get on board with, but surely the idiot ship has sailed which what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
The fact actual important news get buried beneath a gossip book is more indicative
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@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Is Trump still an idiot though?..a meany, a bully, crass, offensive etc I could get on board with, but surely the idiot ship has sailed which what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
Yep, always found that odd. Totally buy he's an appalling human being and monumental bullshit artist, but an idiot? If he's an idiot what does that say about the geniuses screaming at the sky and walking around with rubber vaginas on their heads?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in US Politics:
@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Is Trump still an idiot though?..a meany, a bully, crass, offensive etc I could get on board with, but surely the idiot ship has sailed which what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
Yep, always found that odd. Totally buy he's an appalling human being and monumental bullshit artist, but an idiot? If he's an idiot what does that say about the geniuses screaming at the sky and walking around with rubber vaginas on their heads?
More amusing is the unsaid assumption from some that an appalling human being and bullshit artist is nit a common trait in politicians.
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@donsteppa said in US Politics:
Trump has successfully continued a long running trend in the US Labor Maket. Staff around Trump changed their tune completely on what the figures meant before and after his inauguration, but that’s politics...
But we were told the economy would collapse.
Job Totals is one stat, but wages are also up as job growth is slowing due to approaching full employment.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@donsteppa said in US Politics:
Trump has successfully continued a long running trend in the US Labor Maket. Staff around Trump changed their tune completely on what the figures meant before and after his inauguration, but that’s politics...
But we were told the economy would collapse.
Job Totals is one stat, but wages are also up as job growth is slowing due to approaching full employment.
Pretty similar to what’ll happen in the NZ labour market in 2018 (... unless the economy collapses :)).
National can claim most of the credit (for the quarterly headline figures) for about another 3 - 6 months. Not sure what the lag is in the US, but probably shorter for Obama as they have relatively lower costs of hiring and firing.
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@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Is Trump still an idiot though?..a meany, a bully, crass, offensive etc I could get on board with, but surely the idiot ship has sailed which what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
Actual achievements are?
@donsteppa said in US Politics:
Trump has successfully continued a long running trend in the US Labor Maket.
And just how much credit do you give him for this?
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Is Trump still an idiot though?..a meany, a bully, crass, offensive etc I could get on board with, but surely the idiot ship has sailed which what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
Actual achievements are?
@donsteppa said in US Politics:
Trump has successfully continued a long running trend in the US Labor Maket.
And just how much credit do you give him for this?
Are you trolling? You can't think of anything massive Trump has accomplished in the last 2 years?
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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Is Trump still an idiot though?..a meany, a bully, crass, offensive etc I could get on board with, but surely the idiot ship has sailed which what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
Actual achievements are?
@donsteppa said in US Politics:
Trump has successfully continued a long running trend in the US Labor Maket.
And just how much credit do you give him for this?
Are you trolling? You can't think of anything massive Trump has accomplished in the last 2 years?
No, I'm not trolling; it's a genuine question and if he had massive accomplishments, you'd no doubt be able to rattle them off rather than avoiding the question.
He's also been President for less than a year.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Is Trump still an idiot though?..a meany, a bully, crass, offensive etc I could get on board with, but surely the idiot ship has sailed which what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
Actual achievements are?
@donsteppa said in US Politics:
Trump has successfully continued a long running trend in the US Labor Maket.
And just how much credit do you give him for this?
Are you trolling? You can't think of anything massive Trump has accomplished in the last 2 years?
No, I'm not trolling; it's a genuine question and if he had massive accomplishments, you'd no doubt be able to rattle them off rather than avoiding the question.
He's also been President for less than a year.
I am not avoiding the question I am laughing at the absurdity of it.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
Becoming president is not an accomplishment. .. lol
So Trump's accomplishments as President are:
- Becoming President.
Ok.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
Becoming president is not an accomplishment. .. lol
So Trump's accomplishments as President are:
- Becoming President.
Ok.
Where did anyone say accomplishments as president?
Massivly transparent attempt to move the goal posts from you.Stop digging
But anyway.. lets just ignore the absurdity of you not thinking becoming US president is an accomplishment.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
Where did anyone say accomplishments as president?
Massivly transparent attempt to move the goal posts from you.What a predictable response, premised on the pathetic notion we'd be discussing Trump if he didn't become President.
Do you have something that isn't a press release from the Whitehouse?
If these are achievements, you've got a very low bar:
Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority. -
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
Where did anyone say accomplishments as president?
Massivly transparent attempt to move the goal posts from you.What a predictable response, premised on the pathetic notion we'd be discussing Trump if he didn't become President.
Do you have something that isn't a press release from the Whitehouse?
If these are achievements, you've got a very low bar:
Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.lol
It was a point made by Rembrandt about Trump being an idiot. The premise was a discussion on wether Trump is an idiot or not. Whatever tangent you went off on and then could not bail out from is not my concern. What is funny is that you couldnt just man up and admit you got it wrong and just had to keep digging.Low bar? Well you have moved the goal posts again.. now they have to meet your standard? yeah nah.
you asked for a list of accomplishments.. you got them. Now you are whinging because of the source. You are def trolling.
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I’m pretty comfortable finding Trump and the Clintons equally distasteful but don’t see the need to give them an equal amount of attention mostly because H Clinton is circling the bowl as far as history is concerned and Trump is president for the next three years.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
Where did anyone say accomplishments as president?
Massivly transparent attempt to move the goal posts from you.What a predictable response, premised on the pathetic notion we'd be discussing Trump if he didn't become President.
Do you have something that isn't a press release from the Whitehouse?
If these are achievements, you've got a very low bar:
Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.lol
It was a point made by Rembrandt about Trump being an idiot. The premise was a discussion on wether Trump is an idiot or not.the Idiot in power. The power, for anyone with more than a couple of firing synapses, would be political. I'll help you out here; that would be because he's President.
Are we to take your white knighting as a rebuttal that he's a colloquial idiot, simply because he became President?
Whatever tangent you went off on and then could not bail out from is not my concern. What is funny is that you couldnt just man up and admit you got it wrong and just had to keep digging.
More of your fervent imagination again.
Low bar? Well you have moved the goal posts again.. now they have to meet your standard? yeah nah.
They do for me to accept them as achievements.
you asked for a list of accomplishments.. you got them. Now you are whinging because of the source.
I don't consider lobbying without outcome an accomplishment. People who do no doubt have a trophy room for their participation awards.
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Topical extracts from an op-ed by Joe Scarborough:
An email Wolff describes as "purporting to represent the views" of chief economic adviser Gary Cohn neatly summarises what campaign workers and White House staff have been telling me about Trump for two years.
He is an "idiot surrounded by clowns. Trump won't read anything - not one-page memos, not the brief policy papers; nothing. He gets up halfway through meetings with world leaders because he is bored. And his staff is no better."
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But Fire and Fury reveals that White House staff and Cabinet members believed Trump's intellectual challenges went well beyond having a limited reading list: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin called him an "idiot," Cohn dismissed him as "dumb," national security adviser H.R. McMaster considered him a "dope" and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson infamously concluded that the commander in chief was a "moron."
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
Where did anyone say accomplishments as president?
Massivly transparent attempt to move the goal posts from you.What a predictable response, premised on the pathetic notion we'd be discussing Trump if he didn't become President.
Do you have something that isn't a press release from the Whitehouse?
If these are achievements, you've got a very low bar:
Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.lol
It was a point made by Rembrandt about Trump being an idiot. The premise was a discussion on wether Trump is an idiot or not.the Idiot in power. The power, for anyone with more than a couple of firing synapses, would be political. I'll help you out here; that would be because he's President.
Are we to take your white knighting as a rebuttal that he's a colloquial idiot, simply because he became President?
Whatever tangent you went off on and then could not bail out from is not my concern. What is funny is that you couldnt just man up and admit you got it wrong and just had to keep digging.
More of your fervent imagination again.
Low bar? Well you have moved the goal posts again.. now they have to meet your standard? yeah nah.
They do for me to accept them as achievements.
you asked for a list of accomplishments.. you got them. Now you are whinging because of the source.
I don't consider lobbying without outcome an accomplishment. People who do no doubt have a trophy room for their participation awards.
No @Rembrandt made it very clear he was talking about the last 2 years. That was directly in the post you questioned. You decided after your nonsense was called that suddenly we were talking about the last year. You just tried to move the goal posts to cover your own nonsense and complete inability to EVER say you are wrong about anything.
Winning the nomination and winning the election are massive accomplishments. And guess what they were within the last 2 years. -
@antipodean said in US Politics:
Topical extracts from an op-ed by Joe Scarborough:
An email Wolff describes as "purporting to represent the views" of chief economic adviser Gary Cohn neatly summarises what campaign workers and White House staff have been telling me about Trump for two years.
He is an "idiot surrounded by clowns. Trump won't read anything - not one-page memos, not the brief policy papers; nothing. He gets up halfway through meetings with world leaders because he is bored. And his staff is no better."
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But Fire and Fury reveals that White House staff and Cabinet members believed Trump's intellectual challenges went well beyond having a limited reading list: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin called him an "idiot," Cohn dismissed him as "dumb," national security adviser H.R. McMaster considered him a "dope" and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson infamously concluded that the commander in chief was a "moron."
Joe Scarborough.. lol ok...
If you are relying on Wollfe and Scarborough for your Trump analysis.. I can see why you react the way you do. You should watch Rachel Maddow as well.. you would love her. -
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Is Trump still an idiot though?..a meany, a bully, crass, offensive etc I could get on board with, but surely the idiot ship has sailed which what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
Actual achievements are?
From top of my head:
Becoming republican nominee despite almost all media and even the republican establishment
Winning presidency despite all odds
Expertly and accurately dismantling MSM credibility
Eliminating Isis
Record unemployment
Booming stock market
Massive cuts in illegal immigration
Huge regulation cuts
Following through on the promise to recognise Jerusalem the capital of Israel
Delivering promised tax cuts
..and from what I understand from recent events he has also fixed global warming.Sure there's if's ,buts and maybes on all of these but taking into account the fiercely biased media representation of him he really has done incredibly well in my estimation.
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