6N 2018
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It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?
Passes 2 feet overhead, a metre behind, at the feet. It was very rare to see any "bread baskets". They were worse than the ABs last season.
They were tired because they had to play the ABs apparently.
Funny how that is never admitted as a factor when the shoe is on the other foot in the November tests.
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Whilst I'm all for the pile on on Eddie (smarmy prick deserves all he gets) they haven't Lancastered out if the RWC yet. Yet ...
Happy to see him cop a bit of pressure though.
So you beat the Bokke? What else have you achieved? Realy? As a head coach?
Always thought the Poms fucked upby picking him. Thought I was likely to be wrong a week ago last year ... I could still be wrong but would be happy if this trnd continues
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@antipodean said in 6N 2018:
@billy-tell said in 6N 2018:
It wasn’t a clear knock on.
Are you trying to become a TMO?
Nah you come on here saying it was a clear knock on like it’s an undisputed fact. It may have been a knock on. It may have not.
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@billy-tell said in 6N 2018:
@antipodean said in 6N 2018:
@billy-tell said in 6N 2018:
It wasn’t a clear knock on.
Are you trying to become a TMO?
Nah you come on here saying it was a clear knock on like it’s an undisputed fact. It may have been a knock on. It may have not.
I'd suggest watching it again; if you can't see it coming off Kearney's hand and moving towards England's backline, then you're well suited to being a TMO...
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Ok. I’m woke.
Are we still champions.....?
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It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?
Passes 2 feet overhead, a metre behind, at the feet. It was very rare to see any "bread baskets". They were worse than the ABs last season.
The English Lions must have been hanging on Howley's every word last summer
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@pot-hale Nope
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An interesting article on ESPN, Care's comment is what stood out to me
"We are a team that in the last couple of years hasn't had to handle losing," Care said. "It has all been quite rosy and we have got all the 50-50 decisions and bounces of the ball. That is what happens when you are riding the wave. Now we are on the other side of it. We have full confidence that we will bounce back from this."
So dominance is all down to luck. ABs are a very lucky bunch! I'm not saying there isn;t swings and roundabouts on luck/50-50/bounces/ref calls; but that is not what dominance is built on.
Jones must re-energise England before South Africa
England coach Eddie Jones is refusing to panic following his side's third successive defeat but as Sir Clive Woodward has noted his team are "staring down the barrel" as a summer tour to South Africa looms.
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@kiwiinmelb said in 6N 2018:
Fair to say Ireland are the real deal , but most knowledgeable kiwis knew that anyway , so it shouldnt be that much of a surprise .
I think England are probably the bigger story right now ....... more bark than bite ?
Hang on. No one’s mentioned knowledgeable Kiwis before. Do any of them come on here?
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@pot-hale more than sober Irishmen
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Looks like the British press are pushing for Dave Rennie as England Rugby's next saviour.
Good call. They got it right when they pushed for Martin Johnson, Stuart Lancaster, Eddie Jones....
Is there really only one Eddie Jones out there? Is there no one else with the ability to grasp this group of players and give them an edge as the Australian did the Lancaster group? The obvious name to spring to mind is Rob Baxter but perhaps a better bet would be Glasgow’s David Rennie. Formerly of the Chiefs, he has an outstanding record of success and an ability to quickly bring the best from players, something England need. An outside bet to pull together a successful short-term team is Dean Richards.
If Jones ran the RFU, he would sack himself as coach
It seems so long ago. Eddie the saviour. From the dust of England’s World Cup ruins to a phoenix-like resurrection and a grand slam. Perhaps topping it all, there was a 3-0 series win in Australia. It looked as though the northern hemisphere had a team that could live with the traditional southern p
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The press seem to be buying more and more into excusing the 6N because of the Lions tour combined with the demands of the premiership.
There's some truth in that but it isn't as big a factor as they think IMO. The sluggish play isn't due to bieng tired (Eddie reckons they were posting record fitness results) it looks like they lack sharpness because they are over coached. No ability to think for themselves either tactically or as instinct because no room has been left for thinking. -
@crucial Jones is a good coach. No one gets England to win 18 in a row simply by making them fitter, let alone getting Japan to beat South Africa if they're a bad coach.
A lot of these England players are in need of a rest. It's not the only issue, but it's certainly a contributing one. The difference in workload compared to Ireland's centrally contracted players is illuminating. Compare Farrell with Sexton since the Lions Tour for example.
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@antipodean and yet there are some sections of our media (and on here) unhappy with NZR having players in camps instead of playing super rugby, which is all about managing workload as well.
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@antipodean said in 6N 2018:
A lot of these England players are in need of a rest. It's not the only issue, but it's certainly a contributing one. The difference in workload compared to Ireland's centrally contracted players is illuminating. Compare Farrell with Sexton since the Lions Tour for example.
Are there some stats on this? I was wondering myself how the respective gametime compared between English and Irish/Welsh players post Lions tour.
