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  • MN5M Online
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    Another wooden spoon for Italy.

    ....but I'm sure the players are learning lots from the experience and will come back better as they have done for the last 18 years.

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    @mn5 said in 6N 2018:

    @antipodean said in 6N 2018:

    The wheels well and truly falling off the chariot, again.

    Very impressive what effect New Zealanders are having for Irish rugby. Might be time to consider dragging a few home.

    I'm just trying to get my head around the fact that this England team which the press have told us needs to be respected and feared managed a 2-3 record in the tourney.

    Also, childish I know, but I'm really glad BOD isn't around to bask in this latest Irish glory....

    I’m stoked that whinging twat isn’t involved, when he was part of the team they’d be talked up beyond any discernible talent they had, play us and it would end in a leprechaust . Now they actually deliver on their promise which is great because France seem to have no fucks to give about test rugby and South Africa has all sorts of problems. Another genuine rival coming along is great for our game.

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    I just think that coaching in 2018 has moved on and left Eddie Jones behind...

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    It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?

    Passes 2 feet overhead, a metre behind, at the feet. It was very rare to see any "bread baskets". They were worse than the ABs last season.

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    @bones said in 6N 2018:

    It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?

    Passes 2 feet overhead, a metre behind, at the feet. It was very rare to see any "bread baskets". They were worse than the ABs last season.

    They were tired because they had to play the ABs apparently.

    Funny how that is never admitted as a factor when the shoe is on the other foot in the November tests.

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    Whilst I'm all for the pile on on Eddie (smarmy prick deserves all he gets) they haven't Lancastered out if the RWC yet. Yet ...

    Happy to see him cop a bit of pressure though.

    So you beat the Bokke? What else have you achieved? Realy? As a head coach?

    Always thought the Poms fucked upby picking him. Thought I was likely to be wrong a week ago last year ... I could still be wrong but would be happy if this trnd continues 🙂

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    @bones said in 6N 2018:

    It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?

    Eddie is the attack coach. He might have to bring in a specialist.

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    @antipodean said in 6N 2018:

    @billy-tell said in 6N 2018:

    It wasn’t a clear knock on.

    Are you trying to become a TMO?

    Nah you come on here saying it was a clear knock on like it’s an undisputed fact. It may have been a knock on. It may have not.

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    @billy-tell said in 6N 2018:

    @antipodean said in 6N 2018:

    @billy-tell said in 6N 2018:

    It wasn’t a clear knock on.

    Are you trying to become a TMO?

    Nah you come on here saying it was a clear knock on like it’s an undisputed fact. It may have been a knock on. It may have not.

    I'd suggest watching it again; if you can't see it coming off Kearney's hand and moving towards England's backline, then you're well suited to being a TMO...

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    Ok. I’m woke.

    Are we still champions.....?

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    @bones said in 6N 2018:

    It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?

    Passes 2 feet overhead, a metre behind, at the feet. It was very rare to see any "bread baskets". They were worse than the ABs last season.

    The English Lions must have been hanging on Howley's every word last summer

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    @pot-hale Nope

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    😜

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    @booboo said in 6N 2018:

    Whilst I'm all for the pile on on Eddie (smarmy prick deserves all he gets) they haven't Lancastered out if the RWC yet. Yet ...

    We still have that very special pleasure to look forward to... 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    An interesting article on ESPN, Care's comment is what stood out to me

    "We are a team that in the last couple of years hasn't had to handle losing," Care said. "It has all been quite rosy and we have got all the 50-50 decisions and bounces of the ball. That is what happens when you are riding the wave. Now we are on the other side of it. We have full confidence that we will bounce back from this."

    So dominance is all down to luck. ABs are a very lucky bunch! I'm not saying there isn;t swings and roundabouts on luck/50-50/bounces/ref calls; but that is not what dominance is built on.

    Jones must re-energise England before South Africa

    Jones must re-energise England before South Africa

    England coach Eddie Jones is refusing to panic following his side's third successive defeat but as Sir Clive Woodward has noted his team are "staring down the barrel" as a summer tour to South Africa looms.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in 6N 2018:

    Fair to say Ireland are the real deal , but most knowledgeable kiwis knew that anyway , so it shouldnt be that much of a surprise .

    I think England are probably the bigger story right now ....... more bark than bite ?

    Hang on. No one’s mentioned knowledgeable Kiwis before. Do any of them come on here?

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    @pot-hale more than sober Irishmen 🙂

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    @pot-hale said in 6N 2018:

    Hang on. No one’s mentioned knowledgeable Kiwis before. Do any of them come on here?

    No. They are busy coaching Ireland.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    Looks like the British press are pushing for Dave Rennie as England Rugby's next saviour.

    Good call. They got it right when they pushed for Martin Johnson, Stuart Lancaster, Eddie Jones....

    Is there really only one Eddie Jones out there? Is there no one else with the ability to grasp this group of players and give them an edge as the Australian did the Lancaster group? The obvious name to spring to mind is Rob Baxter but perhaps a better bet would be Glasgow’s David Rennie. Formerly of the Chiefs, he has an outstanding record of success and an ability to quickly bring the best from players, something England need. An outside bet to pull together a successful short-term team is Dean Richards.

    Stuart Barnes

    If Jones ran the RFU, he would sack himself as coach

    If Jones ran the RFU, he would sack himself as coach

    It seems so long ago. Eddie the saviour. From the dust of England’s World Cup ruins to a phoenix-like resurrection and a grand slam. Perhaps topping it all, there was a 3-0 series win in Australia. It looked as though the northern hemisphere had a team that could live with the traditional southern p

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    The press seem to be buying more and more into excusing the 6N because of the Lions tour combined with the demands of the premiership.
    There's some truth in that but it isn't as big a factor as they think IMO. The sluggish play isn't due to bieng tired (Eddie reckons they were posting record fitness results) it looks like they lack sharpness because they are over coached. No ability to think for themselves either tactically or as instinct because no room has been left for thinking.

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