Crime and punishment: jailhouse informants
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This was tough reading... (and way too well written for Stuff really)
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@mokey said in Crime and punishment: jailhouse informants:
This was tough reading... (and way too well written for Stuff really)
Committing an indecent act on the day he was released ??
What an absolute scumbag
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Bob Harris was pretty well known around town in Whangarei when I was a young bloke. We knew he was one of the guys to avoid on account of his being thick as fuck, cunning as a rat and missing the empathy that human beings normally have. I see prison hasn't really helped with that.
He shot two people who were ostensibly mates for a few bucks. Truly an oxygen thief. I don't know how you can rehabilitate someone like this, so have to ask myself why we keep him?
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@jc said in Crime and punishment: jailhouse informants:
Bob Harris was pretty well known around town in Whangarei when I was a young bloke. We knew he was one of the guys to avoid on account of his being thick as fuck, cunning as a rat and missing the empathy that human beings normally have. I see prison hasn't really helped with that.
He shot two people who were ostensibly mates for a few bucks. Truly an oxygen thief. I don't know how you can rehabilitate someone like this, so have to ask myself why we keep him?
It's also really pleasing to know how much he's cost the taxpayer to keep him in prison all these years.
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surely now being outed, not only as a snitch, but a lying snitch, he is fucked?
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@taniwharugby When you look at his rap sheet, he's the kind of filth you just want to dump on a remote, rat-infested island.
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It's a sad reflection on the legal profession when jailhouse informants are given much credence at all. Particularly those who are consistently providing evidence. Common sense suggests that word would get out not to open your mouth around such a person.
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@antipodean Yeah, I kind of feel like if that is pretty much all your case has...it's not much of a case.
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@antipodean said in Crime and punishment: jailhouse informants:
It's a sad reflection on the legal profession when jailhouse informants are given much credence at all. Particularly those who are consistently providing evidence. Common sense suggests that word would get out not to open your mouth around such a person.
Any?
I really can't get how a jury can succumb to a jailhouse informant.
The suggestion here (allowing for potential bias in the story) is that they used the witnesses to (further) besmirch Tamihere's character.
You wonder about jury trials being open to manipulation.
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@mokey said in Crime and punishment: jailhouse informants:
@antipodean Yeah, I kind of feel like if that is pretty much all your case has...it's not much of a case.
I think the probability that Tamihere did it is pretty high. He was a known bad bastard (convictions for manslaughter and rape) and he was driving around in the Swedes' car, which he claimed to have stolen - aside from various other evidence. Maybe he's "Shawshank Redemption" unlucky, but I doubt it.
On people like Harris - leave the rats on the island in peace. We should have one jail where the cell door just gets concreted over when the inmate goes in.
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@chris-b said in Crime and punishment: jailhouse informants:
@mokey said in Crime and punishment: jailhouse informants:
@antipodean Yeah, I kind of feel like if that is pretty much all your case has...it's not much of a case.
I think the probability that Tamihere did it is pretty high. He was a known bad bastard (convictions for manslaughter and rape) and he was driving around in the Swedes' car, which he claimed to have stolen - aside from various other evidence. Maybe he's "Shawshank Redemption" unlucky, but I doubt it.
On people like Harris - leave the rats on the island in peace. We should have one jail where the cell door just gets concreted over when the inmate goes in.
I'm all for rehabilitation to some extent. There's plenty of people who've turned their lives around after bad shit in their past but the ones like Harris who are nothing but a drain on society and are absolute no hopers just need to be put down.
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@mn5 I find it hard to disagree with you, but we'll never get that through in our lifetimes - so my plan is the next best thing. My cell would be quite comfortable - a TV, video games, books etc - you just never come out for any reason. You'd also be allowed to keep your belt and shoelaces and it would have a sturdy and handily placed beam...
That "three-strikes" legislation is a good step in the right direction.
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@mokey Agreed.
I tend to think the same about "Jailhouse Justice". The people meting it out are probably equally horrible bastards that I'd like to see on the receiving end.
It is much better if the State draws a hard line on all of these bastards.
