Pre Workout Suggestions
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Curse use to be good before it was reformulated and DMAA removed. Pretty weak nowadays. <br><br><br>
Anyone see the story on pre workouts on 3rd degree tonight? Had the usual media slant on it of course but the reporter girl purchased 3 pre workouts being craze, detonate (both known to include class c amphetamines - refer Jesse Ryder incident and others) and also nar labs xspeed which contains DMAA. Got them all tested and sure enough "shocking" results.<br><br>
Funniest bit was that the reporter girl tried some for herself and took two scoops of craze and then did cardio session with a PT. Firstly she wasn't overly fit and wasn't a regular gym goer but secondly she took two scoops of craze for first time using a pre workout vs the recommended 1/2 to 1 scoop for craze. Asking for trouble! No wonder she couldn't handle it. -
<p>Yeah I saw a clip of that 'report' - love how they ignore the instructions and then have a whinge about the outcome. If you were a gym newbie and unfit why on earth would you OD on pre-workout and expect a good result! </p>
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<p>Curse use to be good before it was reformulated and DMAA removed. Pretty weak nowadays.<br><br><br>
Anyone see the story on pre workouts on 3rd degree tonight? Had the usual media slant on it of course but the reporter girl purchased 3 pre workouts being craze, detonate (both known to include class c amphetamines - refer Jesse Ryder incident and others) and also nar labs xspeed which contains DMAA. Got them all tested and sure enough "shocking" results.<br><br>
Funniest bit was that the reporter girl tried some for herself and took two scoops of craze and then did cardio session with a PT. Firstly she wasn't overly fit and wasn't a regular gym goer but secondly she took two scoops of craze for first time using a pre workout vs the recommended 1/2 to 1 scoop for craze. Asking for trouble! No wonder she couldn't handle it.</p>
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<p>Sensationalism aside though the fact remains that these products contain undeclared substances. If you are happy to take amphetamines then fine, but if you don't want to you should at least be given that knowledge to work with.</p>
<p>I take your point about the reporter's testing but isn't it a bit gung-ho to put the problem down to 'couldn't handle it'.</p>
<p>I don't take these things personally but my sons does. He also tries hard to keep abreast of products and what they contain aside from the listed ingredients and is very fit. Even with that knowledge (and taking recommended doses or less) he was suffering from bouts of 'crashing' and feeling really tired which disrupted sleep patterns etc. In the end he stopped using them as it was likely to be an amphetamine crash.</p>
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<p>I'm not suggesting they shouldn't be taken if you have no side effects, but the main point of that TV story still holds up in that you should be able to tell what you are taking from the labelling and testing.</p>
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<p>Fully agree about the issue of non-listed ingredients Crucial. If they'd made that the focus it could have been a good piece to watch - and highly topical given issues with party pills and the legislation around them. Food, drink or supplements (of any kind) should be clearly labelled so we know what we are eating/taking.</p>
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<p>I don't think JK was taking the gung-ho stance - more like a facepalm about the reporter not following the clear instructions on the product... especially for people who are new to pre-workout products. They chose to purposely abuse the product and then make a big deal about how 'spaced out' she was. Wonder if the workout alone would have had her spinning...</p>
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<p>As usual the efforts to sensationalise the report just made it seem lame and poorly planned (imo).</p> -
<p>That's just the beta alanine MN5. Its not a bad thing.</p>
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<p>And yeah wasn't trying to take a gung ho stance, just really puzzled why someone would take double to recommended dose as a test of the product. If a user doesnt read the directions to start off with 1/2 to 1 serving then its unlikely they were read the ingredients either. Agree it would be shit house to get pulled up or lose a job due to coming up positive for a substance you never knew you were using. That simply isn't on and its exactly what happened to Jesse Ryder.</p> -
<p>hhmmm, Am thinking maybe I need to start thinking about looking at supplements?</p>
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<p>Havent used anything since the mid-90's when creatine was all the rage!</p> -
Creatine is still probably the number 1 supplement out. It's got a history of proven results when it comes to assisting with lean muscle gain. <br><br>
Proteins the other big one but you can get sufficient protein from your diet if its well planned enough.<br><br>
Pre workouts are nice but not required. Good way of making sure you really push yourself in your workouts but a strong coffee will get you most the way there for a fraction of the price. I like pre workouts though. Just don't become reliant on them. -
<p>Yeah I make sure I cycle through using detonate - it does make a difference in workout intensity. Just have to make sure you stay hydrated.</p>
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<p>I went off the other pre-workouts a bit, found I was getting a bit bloated. But SuperPump was definitely the supp I had the best results from. Can't remember the name but one sample JK sent me was gnarly! No way you could take it and NOT lift weights. You'd be benching workmates or randoms on the street! </p>
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<p>Also good to check how you hit your max weights without any pre-workout as well. Helps you scope how much boost you get from them I reckon. Plus it's awesome when you see clear improvement lifting 'clean' rather than on a pre-workout.</p> -
<p>Yeah that shiz had my number bro. I was getting almost too amped to lift, and a bit distracted. But you know it's a guaranteed workout once you have it.</p>
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<p>Detonate is pretty close in terms of buzz. But I get way more focused which is good for training tempo. </p>
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<p>Forget Fluoride, just whack some hyper fx in the water supply and watch the obesity crisis melt away!</p>
