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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @oleoleole said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    I think part of the issue is the massive debt the WRU still has which dates back to the Super Rugby contracting switch. This limits the ability to contract players thus it becomes a recruitment and retention problem. It also limits the investments the WRU can make in other areas

    It seems Waikato has been turning around it's financial performance in the last couple of years. However as you mentioned they've had to squeeze in some important areas

    This from the Deloitte report:

    Waikato had the greatest decrease in growing the game expenditure, dropping $0.3m from FY16. Reviewing Waikato’s financials it is reasonable to determine that the union needed to secure its own financial position before investing back into the community, which demonstrates the tough decisions our game’s treasurers have

    There's a thread on the Deloitte report here https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/2542/deloitte-state-of-unions-report

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    @duluth I had heard (unsubstantiated) that Waikato senior rugby is struggling for numbers in terms of putting out Seniors and Reserves week in week out. Now I know most Unions have this issue and I discussed it in the last round of our club season, but from what I have heard is the Waikato Union is at one of its lowest points...which is a viscious circle.

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    @oleoleole said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    I think part of the issue is the massive debt the WRU still has which dates back to the Super Rugby contracting switch.

    The historical debt was in excess of $1M, a lot of which was owed to the HCC for rental of Waikato Stadium.

    I couldn't watch the second half last night.

    I lasted 60 mins.

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    @crucial said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    @duluth said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    2016 u19’s champs
    2017 u19’s runners up

    Nowadays NPC teams are players in their early 20’s plus a handful of veterans. You would expect the u19 results to be translating into an ok NPC side

    As long as these young players don't suddenly find a 'free' education at Lincoln dangled under their noses 😉

    ALB, McKenzie, Tucker....

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    @shark said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    @crucial said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    @duluth said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    2016 u19’s champs
    2017 u19’s runners up

    Nowadays NPC teams are players in their early 20’s plus a handful of veterans. You would expect the u19 results to be translating into an ok NPC side

    As long as these young players don't suddenly find a 'free' education at Lincoln dangled under their noses 😉

    ALB, McKenzie, Tucker....

    Yeah, keep your hands off our poaches!

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    Tough draw coming up for Waikato. Two games against first division teams with a quick turnaround

    vs Wellington (Hamilton) on Wednesday
    vs Taranaki (New Plymouth) four days later

    Then another four day turnaround and they have Hawkes Bay in Hamilton

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    @duluth said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    Tough draw coming up for Waikato. Two games against first division teams with a quick turnaround

    vs Wellington (Hamilton) on Wednesday
    vs Taranaki (New Plymouth) four days later

    Then another four day turnaround and they have Hawkes Bay in Hamilton

    That smells of Hawkes Bay getting the Shield then.....

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    Waikato can just write this year off no matter what. Gibbes didn't want to be there in the first place and is only there a year! Solid management there thinking he would do a good job!!!

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    @hooroo said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    @duluth said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    Tough draw coming up for Waikato. Two games against first division teams with a quick turnaround

    vs Wellington (Hamilton) on Wednesday
    vs Taranaki (New Plymouth) four days later

    Then another four day turnaround and they have Hawkes Bay in Hamilton

    That smells of Hawkes Bay getting the Shield then.....

    haha, love the optimism and pessimism all in one small post!

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    Chiefs suck.

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    @shark said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    Chiefs suck.

    Don't know why that made me laugh but it did.

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    The last time Waikato went to New Plymouth for a RS challenge we had absolutely no expectations and won it!

    I'd just settle for a win regardless who the opposition is. 🙂

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    @hooroo said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    @shark said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    Chiefs suck.

    Don't know why that made me laugh but it did.

    It just occurred to me that I read it as if Adam Sandler was saying it

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    @hooroo said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    @hooroo said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    @shark said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:

    Chiefs suck.

    Don't know why that made me laugh but it did.

    It just occurred to me that I read it as if Adam Sandler was saying it

    Was supposed to be like the "you can do it!" guy

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    The bench hooker for Waikato, have you seen the state of him?

    There are some horrible hair do’s in the NPC, but this guy wins that competition by a considerable margin.
    In fact he might be one of the extras from the pub scene in One Were Warriors.

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    Looks like this was the thread to get Waikato rugby back on track.

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    @african-monkey Not if you're looking for anything but total apathy from their supporters!

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    I've just got back from the game. How's that for apathy? 😂

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    What's happened to Waikato Rugby?

    Well, they won back the Ranfurly Shield from the Naki, then defended it against championship top of the table Hawkes Bay with a bonus point win.

    The kids are all right.

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    Awesome. Very promising young centre pairing - Tupaea and Sweeney - where have these young bucks been hiding? And a rejuvenated Tucker and a deserved opportunity for Fletcher Smith to shine, along with Sevu Reece. Amazing!

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