Cricket 2018/19
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an interesting take here
still reading it, but the dude writes well
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@majorrage said in Cricket 2018/19:
On the flip side though, those saying he deserves more retribution before playing for England again seem a bit silly. He already missed an Ashes tour. Surely for an England cricketer, that's punishment enough.
Playing on that tour would have been a greater punishment.
@kiwipie said in Cricket 2018/19:
I'm not sure the Ashes ban will be considered sufficient - basically he was suspended "indefinitely" pending a police investigation - but it wasn't a fixed suspension based on his behaviour. And then they brought him back anyway without the situation being resolved. They could have banned him for 6/12 months or life based purely on that indiscretion and then that would have been an end to it.
I don't see how a potential life ban (or a 1 year ban for that matter) would be appropriate for this. If you dish out a life ban surely you are setting a precedent that will quickly become very uncomfortable.
Dumb, dangerous and certainly looks ugly on camera without any context (biggest factor in this incident relative to others). But I don't see how you could give a lifetime ban to this and not a "standard" athlete drink driving conviction.
Contrasts with Ryder and Bracewell and their unwritten "3 strikes and you're out". Stokes has had quite a few incidents in the past and nothing to suggest there won't be another in the future.
What are you counting as strikes? At the time of the incident he was vice captain of the side and held in high standing. A couple of speeding tickets and breaking curfew in 2015? Hope the Gary Stead is running NZTA history checks on the squad his first week in the job in that case.
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@rotated said in Cricket 2018/19:
I don't see how a potential life ban (or a 1 year ban for that matter) would be appropriate for this. If you dish out a life ban surely you are setting a precedent that will quickly become very uncomfortable.
Dumb, dangerous and certainly looks ugly on camera without any context (biggest factor in this incident relative to others). But I don't see how you could give a lifetime ban to this and not a "standard" athlete drink driving conviction.Obviously I wasn't stating he should get a life ban - obviously. I would say it goes without saying but obviously it doesn't.
If you can get a 1 year ban for presiding over ball tampering (not actually tampering) when previous offences have been a 1 game ban or less then what's your point on precedents?
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@nzzp said in Cricket 2018/19:
an interesting take here
still reading it, but the dude writes well
That was informative - read it earlier on.
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@kiwipie important to note that Sutherland and cricket Aus came up with the 1 year ban in a virtue signalling context. I think the ICC ruled 2 match suspension which seemed pretty consistent with similar rulings.
Just pointing out that the sandpaper incident doesn't necessarily provide a suitable precedent, as you alluded to
Personally I think the court ruling and historic loss of income or status is enough justice. It was just a fight outside a nightclub, similar to thousands of such incidents every weekend.
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Hahaha who is this Bumrah fluffybunny bowling for India??
It's the most B-Grade club action i have ever seen
Walk walk skip skip round arm medium pace around the wicket
I'm surprised he's not bowling in black Nike runners
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Cracker of a series too. A wee shame this last one was a dead rubber.
The 4 live games featured teams batting for about a day each. The ball swung and seamed but good batting was rewarded and every session seemed intense and worth watching. Games ebbed and flowed throughout and the upper hand basically turned in 30 to 60 minute intervals, constantly.Greenish wickets, dukes balls, fast outfields and bowlers wrist positions on release (seriously) made for great viewing.
Oh and none of the players fucken cried or sobbed in front of media 😗
Cook has been pretty cool throughout his whole career
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Check out that Australian test squad to play Pakistan. It's a veritable "who's that?" of Australian cricket.
If that's what follows dominant eras, then I shudder to think what the All Blacks are going to look like in 15 years.
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@mariner4life yes however will we replace Luke Whitelock.....
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@kiwimurph said in Cricket 2018/19:
@mariner4life yes however will we replace Luke Whitelock.....
If this is the standard, Luke Whitelock will be the star player.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket 2018/19:
Check out that Australian test squad to play Pakistan. It's a veritable "who's that?" of Australian cricket.
If that's what follows dominant eras, then I shudder to think what the All Blacks are going to look like in 15 years.
Comedy Squad: Tim Paine (capt, wk), Ashton Agar, Brendan Doggett, Aaron Finch, Travis Head, Jon Holland, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Shaun Marsh, Michael Neser, Matthew Renshaw, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Starc
Out: Joe Burns, Glenn Maxwell, Peter Handscomb, Jhye Richardson -
@hooroo said in Cricket 2018/19:
@mariner4life said in Cricket 2018/19:
Check out that Australian test squad to play Pakistan. It's a veritable "who's that?" of Australian cricket.
If that's what follows dominant eras, then I shudder to think what the All Blacks are going to look like in 15 years.
Comedy Squad: Tim Paine (capt, wk), Ashton Agar, Brendan Doggett, Aaron Finch, Travis Head, Jon Holland, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Shaun Marsh, Michael Neser, Matthew Renshaw, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Starc
Out: Joe Burns, Glenn Maxwell, Peter Handscomb, Jhye RichardsonShit @mariner4life wasn’t telling porkies was he?
4 blokes I’ve genuinely never heard of and couple of pyjama specialists.
Khawaja the most experienced batsmen (?) hasn’t even played that many himself, will have to hold the batting together.
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India tours to caughtcheating land (oh fuck yes, this cow's worth milking for another year at least!🤣) this summer, first test on Dec 6
Kohli's team is different from others. They don't seem so temperamental and look definitely more professional. Not so much bundle dropping anymore and 4-1 vs England doesn't tell a true story. They took 2 tests to suss out batting in England and the poms got real value from Broad, Anderson, and Butler.
But finally the Indians have quicks that can bowl spells. 4th test, India had 4 seamers and 1 spinner, England had 4 and 2 and the Indian batsmen lost that game.
So, for perhaps the first time the injuns go to sandpaper-alia without a reliance on spin and packing seamers for hope. India relied on their pacemen in England so they're quite well conditioned.
Imagine the ovation Kohli would get back home with a series win in the Confederated States of "We know where the line is", then wonder of his motivation
Aussies never lose easy at home mind you, it usually takes a preceding calamity 😉
Nah, that series will be a cracker
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