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  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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    Baron Silas Greenback
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    #335

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/tennis/107077580/czech-star-shoots-down-serena-williams-claims-of-tennis-sexism-and-blasts-her-attitude

    This matches up with what I have been hearing. Most players in the pro circuit got sick of Seranas antics a looooong time ago.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
    wrote on last edited by
    #336

    This statement:

    "Williams received wide support in her claims after a series of code violations issued by umpire Carlos Ramos saw her attack the man in the chair as she lost the US Open final to Japan's Naomi Osaka in New York last weekend."

    Is just not true. On every form of media open to the public I have seen probably a 85/15 split on people calling Serena out on her bullshit. Just because some left leaning MSM outlets ran puff pieces on her doesn't mean she had anything like wide support. This has tainted her image big time.

    I saw a similar thing about the cartoon on One News, stating the cartoonist "bad been condemned for his racist depiction of Serena". Again, the vast majority of people had no issue with the cartoon, but they language they use suggests otherwise.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    taniwharugby
    replied to No Quarter on last edited by
    #337

    @no-quarter thing was in that cartoon, how exactly was it racist?

    Cartoon depictions or people are always exaggerated versions, her cartoon was her with big lips (check) frizzy hair (check) big bottom (check)...oh wait, it's cos she is black right?

    Cartoons of white folk exaggerating thier same physical traits would be racist too right?

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
    wrote on last edited by No Quarter
    #338

    @taniwharugby yeah, it's just race baiters searching for things to be outraged about to keep themselves relevant and give themselves a sense of moral superiority.

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    Rancid Schnitzel
    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #339

    @taniwharugby said in Tennis:

    @no-quarter thing was in that cartoon, how exactly was it racist?

    Cartoon depictions or people are always exaggerated versions, her cartoon was her with big lips (check) frizzy hair (check) big bottom (check)...oh wait, it's cos she is black right?

    Cartoons of white folk exaggerating thier same physical traits would be racist too right?

    You're on a hiding to nothing there. If he'd drawn SW looking slimmer and "whiter" he would have been slammed for "whitewashing" her. It's just madness.

    At any rate the paper is standing firm, the umpire apparently couldn't give a shit and nobody other than the usual dickheads is buying this whole sexism nonsense. Even in these ridiculous PC times, the idea that someone like SW could be the victim in this scenario is just too much too swallow.

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    Virgil
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    #340

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback fair to say SW and Sharapova are the 2 most disliked in the woman’s circuit

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    MajorRage
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    #341

    Oh so the arguments changed ...

    Or wait a second ... is the suggestion that men outburst at an even much higher ratio than these stats suggest?

    Isn’t saying that .... sexism ... ?

    Stuff
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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
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    #342

    @MajorRage hilarious, they are really flapping about now. So the argument they are making has absolutely no evidence, anywhere, to back it up. But we are just meant to all buy into it because.... feminism?

    I've loved the response to all of this. The radical lefties stupid ideas took a big hit.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
    wrote on last edited by
    #343

    I wonder what Serena thinks now? Ramos must be sexist if he is now picking on the males.

    Tennis.com

    Chair umpire Ramos hands Cilic warning for slamming racket | Tennis.com

    Chair umpire Ramos hands Cilic warning for slamming racket | Tennis.com

    Chair umpire Ramos hands Cilic warning for slamming racket

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  • canefanC Offline
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    canefan
    wrote on last edited by
    #344

    She still can't let it go. I wonder what she will do with her coach, because his admission that he was coaching inconveniently doesn't fit Serena's narrative

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    taniwharugby
    replied to canefan on last edited by
    #345

    @canefan very little been made of this by 'her side'

    @Bovidae cos he's a filthy Croat!

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  • BonesB Offline
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    Bones
    wrote on last edited by
    #346

    Hang on, where basic stats don't show sexism they need to be broken down more? How about that gender pay gap?

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    MajorRage
    replied to canefan on last edited by
    #347

    @canefan said in Tennis:

    She still can't let it go. I wonder what she will do with her coach, because his admission that he was coaching inconveniently doesn't fit Serena's narrative

    To be fair, neither can I

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    MajorRage
    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #348

    @bones said in Tennis:

    Hang on, where basic stats don't show sexism they need to be broken down more? How about that gender pay gap?

    They do though!

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  • canefanC Offline
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    canefan
    replied to MajorRage on last edited by
    #349

    @majorrage said in Tennis:

    @canefan said in Tennis:

    She still can't let it go. I wonder what she will do with her coach, because his admission that he was coaching inconveniently doesn't fit Serena's narrative

    To be fair, neither can I

    I remember the time McEnroe defaulted his match vs Mikhail Pernfors at the Aussie Open. It is the only other time I can recall where a player kept winding themselves until breaking point. In the end he broke his racket and that was it. What I don't remember him doing was bitch and moan to the press afterwards that he was victimized. Serena should just shut it and move on

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    Rancid Schnitzel
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    #350

    The stupid thing here is that many commentators immediately started blurting out crap about how this never happens to men. When it's proven that it does, in fact 3 times as much, you get farking crickets. Any chance of maybe dialing it back or perhaps acknowledging they got it wrong? Of course not. It was never about the facts but about the narrative they wanted to believe and ram down other people's throats.

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  • M Offline
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    mooshld
    wrote on last edited by mooshld
    #351

    Her husbands point is valid. But only within the bounds of the hypothetical situation he proposes. The problem is he has no data to back them up.

    If men call a ref a "liar" 1000 times and get punished 10, while for every thousand instances of a woman doing the same thing they get punished 20 times that would be sexist and unfair.

    But there is no data at all to suggest this and why would there be it seems like an overly dumb thing to keep a record of. Tennis annoys me like this in the same way football does. Adults getting babied when they can't control their emotions. Grow the fuck up accept you're playing shit. Either improve or lose with some fucking dignity.

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  • Mick Gold Coast QLDM Offline
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    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    wrote on last edited by
    #352
    “I’m here fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality”
    

    That fight was won long ago, she’s getting herself mixed up with Billie Jean King – The US Open introduced equal prize money for women in 1973, the Australian Open did so in 2001, and the French Open and Wimbledon followed suit in 2007. Of the 31 Grand Slam Tournament Finals in which she has appeared Williams has taken home equal pay 27 times – that’s 87% of ‘em.

    She just walked out of this tournament with $1.85 million dollars for coming a churlish second! Our Serena has eked out career earnings of $90 million.

    The US Open total prize money is $53 million including $21 m for the men’s singles winners (Rounds 1 to 4 and all finals) and $3 m for men’s doubles winners. The women? $21 m for the singles and $3 m for the doubles.

    Prize money has grown from about $25 million in 2012 and $34 million in 2013.

    Umpire Ramos was paid $653 for officiating the Williams – Osaka match. $653.

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    MajorRage
    replied to mooshld on last edited by
    #353

    @mooshld it’s valid but given stats are already 4-1 against their view, men’s meltdowns are going to need to be off the scale compared to woman’s for the point to be true.

    It’s fucking pathetic. I’ve never liked Willians, but I’ve respected her big time. Not any more.

    It’s unlikely but I’d love for her to be boo’d next few tournaments

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  • gt12G Offline
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    gt12
    replied to Mick Gold Coast QLD on last edited by
    #354

    @mick-gold-coast-qld said in Tennis:

    “I’m here fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality”
    

    That fight was won long ago, she’s getting herself mixed up with Billie Jean King – The US Open introduced equal prize money for women in 1973, the Australian Open did so in 2001, and the French Open and Wimbledon followed suit in 2007. Of the 31 Grand Slam Tournament Finals in which she has appeared Williams has taken home equal pay 27 times – that’s 87% of ‘em.

    She just walked out of this tournament with $1.85 million dollars for coming a churlish second! Our Serena has eked out career earnings of $90 million.

    The US Open total prize money is $53 million including $21 m for the men’s singles winners (Rounds 1 to 4 and all finals) and $3 m for men’s doubles winners. The women? $21 m for the singles and $3 m for the doubles.

    Prize money has grown from about $25 million in 2012 and $34 million in 2013.

    Umpire Ramos was paid $653 for officiating the Williams – Osaka match. $653.

    I wonder what she has earned per minute played then? That stat would certainly show her dominance but also, most likely, that she’s only played 2/3 as much tennis for it.

    I say make women’s tennis 5 sets, then come calling with your shit.

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