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  • canefanC Offline
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    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan I reckon a few of them work up here...one my wife goes to is always trying to get her to get cosmetic shit done, telling her she needed this and that, she ended up changing fortunately she has good teeth, hope the kids have hers rather than mine.

    Some of the dentists they have for kids are too eagar to extract as well, which causes crowding issues as thier adult teeth come through (learnt with TR Jnr so Miss TR had a spacer)

    I dont want to change dentists as I am embarassed by the state of my teeth!

    Never settle mate, find someone who doesn't make you feel like you are being sold. For the sake of your remaining teeth you owe it to yourself to find someone responsible. I see lots of people from other dentists (many thru grabone etc too) that want a second opinion for proposed treatment plans. Every time I do an assessment and find they need little or no work done it fucking disgusts me. These days any dentist worth their salt is relatively non-interventionist, especially with kids

    Be honest , a dentist invented k-bars and Macintosh’s right?

    0_1540801219562_Capture.JPG

    I used to love K Bars. Don't forget gingernuts and minties!!!

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    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan I reckon a few of them work up here...one my wife goes to is always trying to get her to get cosmetic shit done, telling her she needed this and that, she ended up changing fortunately she has good teeth, hope the kids have hers rather than mine.

    Some of the dentists they have for kids are too eagar to extract as well, which causes crowding issues as thier adult teeth come through (learnt with TR Jnr so Miss TR had a spacer)

    I dont want to change dentists as I am embarassed by the state of my teeth!

    Never settle mate, find someone who doesn't make you feel like you are being sold. For the sake of your remaining teeth you owe it to yourself to find someone responsible. I see lots of people from other dentists (many thru grabone etc too) that want a second opinion for proposed treatment plans. Every time I do an assessment and find they need little or no work done it fucking disgusts me. These days any dentist worth their salt is relatively non-interventionist, especially with kids

    Be honest , a dentist invented k-bars and Macintosh’s right?

    0_1540801219562_Capture.JPG

    I used to love K Bars. Don't forget gingernuts and minties!!!

    Never had a gingernut pull out a filling , the last Macintosh I had cost me $500.

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    @canefan @taniwharugby Dentistry in the UK is really variable too. We have something called Denplan, I'm sure NZ must have something similar. Basically it is an annual assessment of the work required which is then costed out over the year and then the dentist takes on the risk or more work being required. Sounds good no? I had a client that ran a dental castings business and he felt that Denplan was licensed neglect - ie assess for X amount of work and then do fuck all. He mentioned one dentist locally that he felt stuck to the spirit of the thing and luckily it was my dentist (old rugby mate). He's great and not too expensive (I don't use Denplan, Mrs Cato does) but bloody hell I've had some bad motherfuckers too. I look after my teeth pretty well and it costs me around £190 a year for two appointments with the hygienist and then two check ups with my mate. Good value I feel. As an aside we have been talking about replacement of a crown which I'm not that keen on as I don't want all the aggro, costs around £300-£400, so not too bad either.

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    @catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan @taniwharugby Dentistry in the UK is really variable too. We have something called Denplan, I'm sure NZ must have something similar. Basically it is an annual assessment of the work required which is then costed out over the year and then the dentist takes on the risk or more work being required. Sounds good no? I had a client that ran a dental castings business and he felt that Denplan was licensed neglect - ie assess for X amount of work and then do fuck all. He mentioned one dentist locally that he felt stuck to the spirit of the thing and luckily it was my dentist (old rugby mate). He's great and not too expensive (I don't use Denplan, Mrs Cato does) but bloody hell I've had some bad motherfuckers too. I look after my teeth pretty well and it costs me around £190 a year for two appointments with the hygienist and then two check ups with my mate. Good value I feel. As an aside we have been talking about replacement of a crown which I'm not that keen on as I don't want all the aggro, costs around £300-£400, so not too bad either.

    That system sounds like our dental benefit system for kids of high school age. It is a capitation system based on estimated work done, many dentists try to game the system by trying to push through as many patients as possible that don't need any work and the kids are the ones that lose. I am not on that scheme, I prefer for patients to pay what I deem to be a fair and reasonable fee for me to assess and treat what they need and only what they need. Cosmetic stuff is different, I might suggest, but in the end it needs to be patient driven. 400 quid sounds pretty good, of course you don't know how or where it is made (local, China with depleted uranium containing metals of whatever the fark in it) but it sounds like you have yourself a good un

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    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan I reckon a few of them work up here...one my wife goes to is always trying to get her to get cosmetic shit done, telling her she needed this and that, she ended up changing fortunately she has good teeth, hope the kids have hers rather than mine.

    Some of the dentists they have for kids are too eagar to extract as well, which causes crowding issues as thier adult teeth come through (learnt with TR Jnr so Miss TR had a spacer)

    I dont want to change dentists as I am embarassed by the state of my teeth!

    Never settle mate, find someone who doesn't make you feel like you are being sold. For the sake of your remaining teeth you owe it to yourself to find someone responsible. I see lots of people from other dentists (many thru grabone etc too) that want a second opinion for proposed treatment plans. Every time I do an assessment and find they need little or no work done it fucking disgusts me. These days any dentist worth their salt is relatively non-interventionist, especially with kids

    Be honest , a dentist invented k-bars and Macintosh’s right?

    0_1540801219562_Capture.JPG

    I used to love K Bars. Don't forget gingernuts and minties!!!

    Never had a gingernut pull out a filling , the last Macintosh I had cost me $500.

    Not pull out, just break cusps off

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    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    It's that simple. Rant over

    Rant? I thought it was advertising/marketing. 😉

    I've never had a filling in my 40+ years - I must have got lucky because I abused the shit out of lollies/chocolate for years.

    Although I may need to get my first filling this year because I've been brushing too hard and have removed some of the part where the gums and teeth meet. 😠

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    @nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    It's that simple. Rant over

    Rant? I thought it was advertising/marketing. 😉

    I've never had a filling in my 40+ years - I must have got lucky because I abused the shit out of lollies/chocolate for years.

    Although I may need to get my first filling this year because I've been brushing too hard and have removed some of the part where the gums and teeth meet. 😠

    Like I was intimating to TR, genetics my man. I have a mate who is an orthopaedic surgeon, he was saying that it doesn't matter how sporty you are, how much running you do, genetics play a huge part in whether you will need hip or knee replacements or not

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan I reckon a few of them work up here...one my wife goes to is always trying to get her to get cosmetic shit done, telling her she needed this and that, she ended up changing fortunately she has good teeth, hope the kids have hers rather than mine.

    Some of the dentists they have for kids are too eagar to extract as well, which causes crowding issues as thier adult teeth come through (learnt with TR Jnr so Miss TR had a spacer)

    I dont want to change dentists as I am embarassed by the state of my teeth!

    Never settle mate, find someone who doesn't make you feel like you are being sold. For the sake of your remaining teeth you owe it to yourself to find someone responsible. I see lots of people from other dentists (many thru grabone etc too) that want a second opinion for proposed treatment plans. Every time I do an assessment and find they need little or no work done it fucking disgusts me. These days any dentist worth their salt is relatively non-interventionist, especially with kids

    Be honest , a dentist invented k-bars and Macintosh’s right?

    0_1540801219562_Capture.JPG

    I used to love K Bars. Don't forget gingernuts and minties!!!

    Never had a gingernut pull out a filling , the last Macintosh I had cost me $500.

    Not pull out, just break cusps off

    It left a big fuck off hole . Got it fixed it didn’t last and now I’m saving for bridgework.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan I reckon a few of them work up here...one my wife goes to is always trying to get her to get cosmetic shit done, telling her she needed this and that, she ended up changing fortunately she has good teeth, hope the kids have hers rather than mine.

    Some of the dentists they have for kids are too eagar to extract as well, which causes crowding issues as thier adult teeth come through (learnt with TR Jnr so Miss TR had a spacer)

    I dont want to change dentists as I am embarassed by the state of my teeth!

    Never settle mate, find someone who doesn't make you feel like you are being sold. For the sake of your remaining teeth you owe it to yourself to find someone responsible. I see lots of people from other dentists (many thru grabone etc too) that want a second opinion for proposed treatment plans. Every time I do an assessment and find they need little or no work done it fucking disgusts me. These days any dentist worth their salt is relatively non-interventionist, especially with kids

    Be honest , a dentist invented k-bars and Macintosh’s right?

    0_1540801219562_Capture.JPG

    I used to love K Bars. Don't forget gingernuts and minties!!!

    Never had a gingernut pull out a filling , the last Macintosh I had cost me $500.

    Not pull out, just break cusps off

    It left a big fuck off hole . Got it fixed it didn’t last and now I’m saving for bridgework.

    Shit mate, I might need to start doing deals for TSFers!! 😉

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  • canefanC Offline
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by
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    @nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    It's that simple. Rant over

    Rant? I thought it was advertising/marketing. 😉

    I've never had a filling in my 40+ years - I must have got lucky because I abused the shit out of lollies/chocolate for years.

    Although I may need to get my first filling this year because I've been brushing too hard and have removed some of the part where the gums and teeth meet. 😠

    That's pretty low rent mate. Cheap as for that type of filling, often no injection either. If it isn't decaying or sensitive you might just be able to leave it....

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    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan I reckon a few of them work up here...one my wife goes to is always trying to get her to get cosmetic shit done, telling her she needed this and that, she ended up changing fortunately she has good teeth, hope the kids have hers rather than mine.

    Some of the dentists they have for kids are too eagar to extract as well, which causes crowding issues as thier adult teeth come through (learnt with TR Jnr so Miss TR had a spacer)

    I dont want to change dentists as I am embarassed by the state of my teeth!

    Never settle mate, find someone who doesn't make you feel like you are being sold. For the sake of your remaining teeth you owe it to yourself to find someone responsible. I see lots of people from other dentists (many thru grabone etc too) that want a second opinion for proposed treatment plans. Every time I do an assessment and find they need little or no work done it fucking disgusts me. These days any dentist worth their salt is relatively non-interventionist, especially with kids

    Be honest , a dentist invented k-bars and Macintosh’s right?

    0_1540801219562_Capture.JPG

    I used to love K Bars. Don't forget gingernuts and minties!!!

    Never had a gingernut pull out a filling , the last Macintosh I had cost me $500.

    Not pull out, just break cusps off

    It left a big fuck off hole . Got it fixed it didn’t last and now I’m saving for bridgework.

    Shit mate, I might need to start doing deals for TSFers!! 😉

    Yep, looks like your blatant advertisement rant was well written.

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    @catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @canefan I reckon a few of them work up here...one my wife goes to is always trying to get her to get cosmetic shit done, telling her she needed this and that, she ended up changing fortunately she has good teeth, hope the kids have hers rather than mine.

    Some of the dentists they have for kids are too eagar to extract as well, which causes crowding issues as thier adult teeth come through (learnt with TR Jnr so Miss TR had a spacer)

    I dont want to change dentists as I am embarassed by the state of my teeth!

    Never settle mate, find someone who doesn't make you feel like you are being sold. For the sake of your remaining teeth you owe it to yourself to find someone responsible. I see lots of people from other dentists (many thru grabone etc too) that want a second opinion for proposed treatment plans. Every time I do an assessment and find they need little or no work done it fucking disgusts me. These days any dentist worth their salt is relatively non-interventionist, especially with kids

    Be honest , a dentist invented k-bars and Macintosh’s right?

    0_1540801219562_Capture.JPG

    I used to love K Bars. Don't forget gingernuts and minties!!!

    Never had a gingernut pull out a filling , the last Macintosh I had cost me $500.

    Not pull out, just break cusps off

    It left a big fuck off hole . Got it fixed it didn’t last and now I’m saving for bridgework.

    Shit mate, I might need to start doing deals for TSFers!! 😉

    Yep, looks like your blatant advertisement rant was well written.

    The best ideas are the ones that you think were yours all along 😉

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    @catogrande TBF I was in the UK 14 years ago, and was lucky to have a good NHS dentist so was just commenting on my experience then, and obviously since in NZ.

    I just know our system is broken, I know plenty of people who look after themselves and earn reasonable money but dental treatment (let alone the check up or maintenance side of things) is beyond so many, and often choose not to do something because of the cost, or take the cheaper option (extraction) because the solution is significant.

    I emphasise to my kids how important keeping thier teeth healthy is, cost to remedy one, but they are a life long thing, we dont grow em back like sharks!

    @canefan I did have a good dentist, they moved to another practice, I followed and seemed thier attitude toward my dental health did too.

    From the outside you wouldnt know I have these issues with my teeth, I dont have gum issues, but they all have had work on them (bar 1) and I am pretty careful with what I eat, I havent had a K-Bar for probably decades 😞

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    @taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @catogrande TBF I was in the UK 14 years ago, and was lucky to have a good NHS dentist so was just commenting on my experience then, and obviously since in NZ.

    I just know our system is broken, I know plenty of people who look after themselves and earn reasonable money but dental treatment (let alone the check up or maintenance side of things) is beyond so many, and often choose not to do something because of the cost, or take the cheaper option (extraction) because the solution is significant.

    I emphasise to my kids how important keeping thier teeth healthy is, cost to remedy one, but they are a life long thing, we dont grow em back like sharks!

    @canefan I did have a good dentist, they moved to another practice, I followed and seemed thier attitude toward my dental health did too.

    From the outside you wouldnt know I have these issues with my teeth, I dont have gum issues, but they all have had work on them (bar 1) and I am pretty careful with what I eat, I havent had a K-Bar for probably decades 😞

    If it's someone wanting to continuously replace fillings without fresh decay beware. Some guys are out there that are too quick to cut into teeth or replace things IMHO

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    If a car dealer thinks you’re evil you must be quite the fluffybunny

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12151227

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    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    If a car dealer thinks you’re evil you must be quite the fluffybunny

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12151227

    Not for one second condoning what she did and she does look like a fucken creepy old crone but how exactly does this make the news over so many other considerably worse crimes ?

    I think Richard two Dads needs to get out more if that's the most evil person he's ever met too.

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    @mn5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    If a car dealer thinks you’re evil you must be quite the fluffybunny

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12151227

    Not for one second condoning what she did and she does look like a fucken creepy old crone but how exactly does this make the news over so many other considerably worse crimes ?

    I think Richard two Dads needs to get out more if that's the most evil person he's ever met too.

    Really? I can excuse a bit of hyperbole when someone absolutely shafts ya and near destroys everything you have built up.

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    @mn5 theft as a servant is probably good for clicks . It’s every business owners nightmare I guess.
    There was a bitch who lived locally who worked for her brother and ripped him off for years . While he was struggling to keep afloat her and her husband were taking trips overseas and renovating their house . I can’t even imagine how hurt that poor bastard felt when he figured it out .

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    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @mn5 theft as a servant is probably good for clicks . It’s every business owners nightmare I guess.
    There was a bitch who lived locally who worked for her brother and ripped him off for years . While he was struggling to keep afloat her and her husband were taking trips overseas and renovating their house . I can’t even imagine how hurt that poor bastard felt when he figured it out .

    Fair explanation. I guess when I think evil I think of people trying to hurt or maim physically with no frontal lobe...….you know, pure psychopaths ( I've met a couple in my lifetime unfortunately ) but you make a good point. Fucking someone over for money is definitely up there.

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    @mn5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:

    @mn5 theft as a servant is probably good for clicks . It’s every business owners nightmare I guess.
    There was a bitch who lived locally who worked for her brother and ripped him off for years . While he was struggling to keep afloat her and her husband were taking trips overseas and renovating their house . I can’t even imagine how hurt that poor bastard felt when he figured it out .

    Fair explanation. I guess when I think evil I think of people trying to hurt or maim physically ( I've met a couple in my lifetime unfortunately ) but you make a good point. Fucking someone over for money is definitely up there.

    Found it , she had a gambling addiction too .

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10702044

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