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    Big surprise this year is Hansen sticking with SBW when week in, week out, he's the worst performing player in the Black Jersey.

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    @sparky said in Rugby World Cup 2019 - How are we tracking?:

    Big surprise this year is Hansen sticking with SBW when week in, week out, he's the worst performing player in the Black Jersey.

    They've stuck with Crotty as well and he came right.

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    Firstly, I think we travel better than most other teams. Japan are not good enough that home advantage will get them further than the quarter-finals at best (would require a victory over either Scotland or Ireland in pool play as a minimum). So it will basically be a RWC on genuinely neutral territory, with Ireland probably likely to have the best travelling contingent. The grounds should be fast and dry if I'm not mistaken, no complaints there.

    I think our pack is set in stone, with the exception of 6. We have to hope that Whitelock, and especially Retallick, remain fit. Read too. But we have a lot of decent propping options on both sides of the scrum, and decent hookers, although we can do better than Harris for the 3rd choice.

    In the backs, if things continue as they are, I'm not ruling out TJP as the starting 9 with TTT on the bench. Smith has been pretty average all season. I don't think the selectors are going to do the "Richie 10/BB 15" thing, so it'll be Beauden at 10. You can lock in Rieko at 11, and BFA at either 14 or 15. We see whether the selectors persist with McKenzie at 15, but the back three is still not entirely settled.

    It's somewhat concerning to see that we still can't settle on a midfield. I think you can lock Goodhue into 13, and then hope Crotty and ALB stay fit. Laumape will be there or thereabouts, and despite his age, you can't entirely rule out Nonu. SBW needs a massive Super Rugby season, otherwise I would just leave him out altogether.

    I think this will be the closest RWC ever. Sides like SA & Argentina will freely choose their European stars, France is likely to be better than at present, and the Lions sides will all be there or thereabouts.

    I think the fans who should be the most worried are the Aussies - it's hard to think of any overseas players who could come back and significantly improve their team. They will always be a chance, but they are probably the only main player who seem to be actively regressing.

    I think we will have as good a chance as any other team, but I don't buy any stonewall favourites talk.

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    @billy-tell said in Rugby World Cup 2019 - How are we tracking?:

    I think we will have a god a chance as any other team, but I don't buy any stonewall favourites talk.

    Richie is secretly coming back?

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    Not sure he is the worst performing player.

    He seems to be playing a bit more structured sort of game well within himself, he will still attract defenders to stop off loads, but I'd like him to run harder and straight a bit more, he often is running across searching for space whereas his game is better suited to creating it by running straight and committing defenders.

    Not sure if this is a deliberate tactic or just lack of confidence given his run of injuries, which is of greater concern IMO.

    I think a number of ABs are playing within themselves and not as free as we have become accustomed, I hope this is a tactic as we are trying different things.

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    @crucial Crotty has been superb in Super Rugby for a Crusaders team who have won the title two years in a row. Saturday he brought that skill and authority to the AB second five-eight position.

    SBW has looked anything but a champion in his run outs with Blues. Just as poor for the ABs: 0 metres against South Africa, 0 metres against England.

    Bye, bye, Sonny Bill.

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    @sparky said in Rugby World Cup 2019 - How are we tracking?:

    @crucial Crotty has been superb in Super Rugby for a Crusaders team who have won the title two years in a row. Saturday he brought that skill and authority to the AB second five-eight position.

    SBW has looked anything but a champion in his run outs with Blues. Just as poor for the ABs: 0 metres against South Africa, 0 metres against England.

    Bye, bye, Sonny Bill.

    Whilst the Canterbury bias is slightly ridiculous this post makes a lot of sense.

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    @sparky said in Rugby World Cup 2019 - How are we tracking?:

    @crucial Crotty has been superb in Super Rugby for a Crusaders team who have won the title two years in a row. Saturday he brought that skill and authority to the AB second five-eight position.

    SBW has looked anything but a champion in his run outs with Blues. Just as poor for the ABs: 0 metres against South Africa, 0 metres against England.

    Bye, bye, Sonny Bill.

    I note you don't mention Crottys test stats this year. They have been pretty poor. Missed tackles, 2 metres a game etc.
    Just saying that the selectors stuck with him and he produced.

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    @sparky said in Rugby World Cup 2019 - How are we tracking?:

    Big surprise this year is Hansen sticking with SBW when week in, week out, he's the worst performing player in the Black Jersey.

    Really? Week in, week out?
    That's funny because my recollection of this year has been SBW sitting on the sideline injured.
    How many minutes has he actually played to be so poor?

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    Interestingly SBW has had some decent games this year but they came when playing outside a 10 that wasn't Beauden Barrett. Blues v Crusaders and ABs v France test 3 spring to mind.

    One positive for SBW is he might have a proper offseason coming up which he hasnt had for a few years.

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    So after the last two tests who might we not be seeing in japan 2019 and who are the bolters (we probably don't have bolters now that we have such big squads).

    I am picking G Bridge to have a cracking Super rugby season and to be right in the mix for our best 23.

    SBW to maybe not even make the squad?
    Franks also gone
    Squire to be overtaken by S Barrett for 6

    TJP and TTT to be our half-backs
    Crotty to get another head knock in Super Rugby and retire

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    For what it is worth, my team for the RWC if everyone is fit:

    Moody, Coles, Laulala, Retallick, S Whitelock, S Barrett, Cane/Savea, A Ioane, TTT, B Barrett, R Ioane, Laumape, Goodhue, Bridge, B Smith (c)

    Moli, Taylor, Ofa T, Hemopo, Savea/Papali'i, TJP, Mo'unga, Nonu.

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    @sparky said in Rugby World Cup 2019 - How are we tracking?:

    For what it is worth, my team for the RWC if everyone is fit:

    Moody, Coles, Laulala, Retallick, S Whitelock, S Barrett, Cane/Savea, A Ioane, TTT, B Barrett, R Ioane, Laumape, Goodhue, Bridge, B Smith (c)

    Moli, Taylor, Ofa T, Hemopo, Savea/Papali'i, TJP, Mo'unga, Nonu.

    So many questions. Smith captain over Whitelock? So much inexperience? Two guys better known for tighthead than loosehead on the bench?

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    Assuming all our current lot are fit come RWC naming time, it is likely at 6, back up utility loosie and probably another wing/FB.

    My thinking is someone like Papali'i could force his way into the 32?, similarly Bridge too, but barring injury there isnt likely to be too many changes from the squad that scored 25 points in 2 games v England & Ireland.

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    @bones This game reminded me of Nantes 1986. The end of the road for some. Jack Goodhue in his first year of Test Rugby was the coolest head for the ABs yesterday. Ben Smith is a superb captain for the Highlanders so no concern there.

    Time to blend young hungry talent with some experienced players. Like we did in 1987 and 2011. 2015 is not the only blueprint for success.

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    @sparky that captain from the side that won super rugby is pretty handy tough...

    I think we saw the value of experience at loosehead last night, yet you're ditching all those with experience behind Moody?

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    @bones Fair enough. I thought Moli was outstanding for the Barbarians last year, but I doubt he'll be fit.

    Karl Tu'inukuafe will probably be a wiser man next year for the lesson he was taught yesterday by the might Furlong. He can stay as a bench option.

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    @sparky Moli is aiming to be ready for SR next year.

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    Read gooone is a big call that I can't see them making unless forced to by injury.

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    Ireland now the big favourites for the RWC. They beat the All Blacks comfortably with what is still a tough side with the likes of Conor Murray and Robbie Henshaw to come back.

    And don't write off England, Wales or South Africa either. All three have looked excellent in patches in recent test.

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