Dad advice sharing thread.
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@antipodean said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
@jk said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
Update - 6 weeks in to season for 4 wins, a narrow loss and a wash out (weekend gone). Lads shown enough to make the clubs rep team for his age group. Its def not his batting that got him there but his bowling has been A1. Lacking in any real pace but great line and gets plenty of wickets for bugger all runs.
Worked for McGrath!
it's the fucking dorks who give it a real go!
Glen McGrath got 5 for 50 that day...Sorry, seemed the perfect spot for a TISM quote
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Need advice re rugby this year for lil red.
The kids 9 going on 10 late this year and one of the smallest kids in his class at school etc. Currently weighs 28kg on the dot which is the cut off point for J5.
Played J6 last year and year before so has done two years tackle now. Not super confident but does very well when gets involved. Good tackling technique and work rate and pretty quick with a good step. Looks like a 10 to me or even a 9 as has a great pass for a kid of his age.
Anyway, he could prob hold his weight fine at 28kg through to 1 May and play J5 (pretty much same as J6 but has drop kick to start game rather than a tap and can fend). J4 goes to full field and pretty much full rugby but still no pushing in scrums I think. J4 weight grade jumps up a bit. He could be up to 38kg for his age (so 10kg heavier than current weight which is a lot at that size). Younger kids up to 50kg!
Anyone elses kid skipped a grade like this? Handle it OK?
He's keen on J4. Most, if not all, of his team from last year will be J5 and I think he would enjoy the season a hell of a lot more in J5.
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@JK I guess there's no option to jump grades mid-season? I reckon J5 sounds like the best option and you could try and sell him on the new things that he can learn (droppies and fending) in that grade, ahead of moving up with the bigger kids.
Perhaps set him some goals to really bed in good technique for tackling so he's confident of dropping the big'uns in J4 next year.On the flip side my little bro became a demon openside as he was always playing against bigger kids. He had a nose for the ball and was fearless in the tackle. But he had good technique (due to tackling me endlessly in the backyard
Being able to fend is quite a big change - get him some vids of DC and CJ doing their thing.
I guess the main factor or draw card for J5 will be sticking with his mates?
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my boys team skipped the 2nd year of rippa and straight into tackle in next grade up, but that was when they were only like 6/7 years old, so wasnt a big deal.
I'm a strong believer of getting them into the tackling as early as possible, learn the technique now while they and opposition are much smaller, so if you can get him used to tackling bigger kids now, I'd take it.
Cos in another year or 3 when other kids get bigger if he is scared or just hesitant thats when problems start.
Thats how TR Jnr injured himself last year, him at about 5ft and 52kg, having guy 5ft 11 and 85kg running at him, he hesitated...
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@dK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
@JK have you also looked at complimentary sports/skills?
Basketball - for eye/hand co-ordination, lower body strength development.
Soccer for eye/foot
Jujitsu or similar for strength and tackling technique
many others, variety for funYeah hes a pretty active kid so also plays soccer and then summer does cricket and surf life saving. Plus golf and swimming year round.
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On the subject of martial arts has anyone had any experience with that? My boy (nearly 6) is pretty small/skinny so was thinking a martial art would be a great way to improve his confidence while also teaching some discipline. Any recommendations on which is best for young kids? I'd say it needs to be reasonably exciting or he may get bored (think I heard Karate is pretty boring?).
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@No-Quarter I'd say it all comes down to the Instructor and how they engage the kids.
When I was looking at an options for TR Jnr, most allowed him to attend 2 or 3 classes before deciding to join up.
So we went along, the one he joined (Tae Kwon Do) had a number of kids his age and a few others started at the same time, which also helps.
But yeah, the disipline thing is good, also teaches respect, and while they are teaching them to fight, they stress that it is for self defence.
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@No-Quarter Both my girls 11 & 7 do Brazilian JuJitsu, and have been doing it for the last year. They are loving it, it gives them self confidence, strength, self defence and also confidence with grappling with boys.
The youngest one is the more athletic, and she was runner up at a recent tournament, losing to the eventual winner by a close margin. The elder is the gentle one and she had one girl in her class that took a disliking to her (after both being BFF's). The girl (1 belt higher) was being very aggressive in the grappling drills, but I needn't be concerned as Miss DK, stood her ground and was able to defend herself and pull off a few holds and escapes.
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@taniwharugby @dK thanks for that - will check those out. As TR says probably best to try a few and see what he likes. He had some issues with older kids in the playground last year so will definitely get him started soon.
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@No-Quarter also a good way for them to meet other kids, and interact with those of varying ages.
He is mates with a guy 2 years older that is at the High School he is starting at, this guy is a big lad who is a couple of belts higher, so gives him someone at school to look for if he needs helps.
While I am still not sure how he;d react if cornered like he was 2 years ago which prompted us to get him into it, I do know if he did react, he can hit hard!
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@Rembrandt well I think alot of this again comes back to the instructors explaining what they are training for and trying to achieve.
They certainly tell them that actually fighting back is a last resort, and often defending yourself and hitting out at the bully simply a means to removing yourself from the situation, cos often that is the MO of a bully, pick a fight with a kid they dont expect to fight back..if they do, it takes them by surprise, which could give you that opening to run away.
I think it is more the confidence it can gives kids in themselves and how they carry themselves, so they look less like an easy target to a bully, rather than some meek little kid that shuffles from building to building.
That said, I watched the instructor do his 4th Dan black belt, that included some knife attacks, while he is smaller than me and I reckon if I got a clean hit, he wouldnt get up, I am not sure I could lay a hand on him if I wanted to!
I went to school with a guy who was small, and had done a martial art all his life, when he was about 17/18 he had a girlfriend who used to get him into fights cos she knew he would kick some arse for her.
Attitude goes a decent way.
But having your kids doing any activity like this, is better than none!!
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@No-Quarter another vote for BJJ - I have a bunch of mates who are into it and all their kids are on the bandwagon. I think it's awesome for nearly anyone as it's a mix of technique/strength/skill. Which I think @dK summed up quite nicely.
Oh, on another note I know a few friends that have their kids in circus training. That's more around stuff like tumbling and other skill based stuff (ropes, poles, silks etc). But can be a good option if the kids aren't into a martial art etc.
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@taniwharugby said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
@Rembrandt well I think alot of this again comes back to the instructors explaining what they are training for and trying to achieve.
They certainly tell them that actually fighting back is a last resort, and often defending yourself and hitting out at the bully simply a means to removing yourself from the situation, cos often that is the MO of a bully, pick a fight with a kid they dont expect to fight back..if they do, it takes them by surprise, which could give you that opening to run away.
I think it is more the confidence it can gives kids in themselves and how they carry themselves, so they look less like an easy target to a bully, rather than some meek little kid that shuffles from building to building.
That said, I watched the instructor do his 4th Dan black belt, that included some knife attacks, while he is smaller than me and I reckon if I got a clean hit, he wouldnt get up, I am not sure I could lay a hand on him if I wanted to!
I went to school with a guy who was small, and had done a martial art all his life, when he was about 17/18 he had a girlfriend who used to get him into fights cos she knew he would kick some arse for her.
Attitude goes a decent way.
But having your kids doing any activity like this, is better than none!!
Well as a former short skinny kid who got a hard time at school I'd say +1 for the BJJ as well. Other styles rely too much on space and timing which you never get as a kid. If someone grabs you and you can make them let go that's probably all you need.
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@Rembrandt shoulda made bigger friends, that's I done did when got bullied.
Problem is these days is kids are just as likely to pull a knife on you as punch you.
My brother and I were wanting to kick the arses of these 4 local teens in Kerikeri lsst weekend who were hassling some tourists at a swimming hole after they were scoping thier gear out too.
Instead we just stood in between with our angry dad faces...although they likely been ok anyway just dont like thieving smart arse pricks like them.
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@No-Quarter Judo has been the making of my son over the last year.
Thoroughly recommend a martial art for youngsters, the only advice I will give is to watch a couple of classes, and see if there are potentially kids who will disrupts, and if so, how the teacher handles them. When you are looking at a 7-1 ratio (it's 15-2 in my son's class), a couple of non listeners, disruptors can have a real influence, and really destroy the class.
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Thanks guys, much appreciated
@MajorRage very good call. I enrolled him in basketball last year and he got nothing out of it as the class was too big, and the disruptors meant he got basically 0 attention from the coaches. Was a waste of time in the end.
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@JK said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
Need advice re rugby this year for lil red.
The kids 9 going on 10 late this year and one of the smallest kids in his class at school etc. Currently weighs 28kg on the dot which is the cut off point for J5.
Played J6 last year and year before so has done two years tackle now. Not super confident but does very well when gets involved. Good tackling technique and work rate and pretty quick with a good step. Looks like a 10 to me or even a 9 as has a great pass for a kid of his age.
Anyway, he could prob hold his weight fine at 28kg through to 1 May and play J5 (pretty much same as J6 but has drop kick to start game rather than a tap and can fend). J4 goes to full field and pretty much full rugby but still no pushing in scrums I think. J4 weight grade jumps up a bit. He could be up to 38kg for his age (so 10kg heavier than current weight which is a lot at that size). Younger kids up to 50kg!
Anyone elses kid skipped a grade like this? Handle it OK?
He's keen on J4. Most, if not all, of his team from last year will be J5 and I think he would enjoy the season a hell of a lot more in J5.
Update - Well JKjnr has ended up in J5 and just managed to make the weight. Will ensure hes on the mark come round 1 as well for the proper weigh in.
Kinda had to go J5 in the end as J4 used to be full field for North Harbour but they've aligned with rest of the country to only go full field from J3. This meant that all his mates who were going to repeat J4 moved up to J3 as couldn't face going back to half field rugby. I suspect North Harbour J4 comp will be very weak this year.
