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  • MN5M Offline
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    You two are taking the fern way too seriously.

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    Gaining AB experience...isn't that what TRC this year is for?

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    @Crazy-Horse @MN5 you 2 new around here?

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    @akan004 said in RWC bolters:

    @nzzp One of the advantages of playing for the Blues...guaranteed a few weeks off during the finals to refresh the body.

    Who are the Chief's loosies?

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    @booboo said in RWC bolters:

    @akan004 said in RWC bolters:

    @nzzp One of the advantages of playing for the Blues...guaranteed a few weeks off during the finals to refresh the body.

    Who are the Chief's loosies?

    It will be good to have Cane well rested, we're going to need him to go beast mode in Japan.

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    @Stargazer said in RWC bolters:

    @taniwharugby The point of my post is that Robinson wouldn't be a bolter. So posted in the right thread.

    Que?

    There's a difference between "wouldn't be" and "won't be".

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC bolters:

    @Stargazer fuck you can be dense sometimes...

    This

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    @Stargazer said in RWC bolters:

    @taniwharugby Sigh, my point was not about Robinson being a bolter if selected. It was about Robinson unlikely to be selected.

    Again ... sometimes I think you're deliberately obtuse ...

    ... and then ...

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    @Bones said in RWC bolters:

    @Chris-B he looks pretty out of shape and not in as good form as last year.

    He always has (looked pretty out of shape). 🙂

    He's hitting his lineout targets, scrumming OK and a few nice little touches around the field.

    I reckon he's done quite well starting for the Crusaders - and I'm not enamoured of his competition (for the third spot).

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    Another way to look at this. Who are the 26 players who if fit are very likely indeed to go to Japan?

    Moody, Franks, Ofa T, Laulala,
    Taylor, Coles, Harris
    Retallick, Whitelock, S. Barrett, Patrick T
    Cane, Savea, Read
    A.Smith, Perenera
    B.Barrett, Mo'unga
    Crotty, SBW (should be Laumape), Goodhue
    R. Ioane, B. Smith, DMac, J.Barrett

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    @sparky Why only 26?

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    @Stargazer Core 23 plus 3rd 2, 9, and 10?

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    @Stargazer Based on Hansen's remarks (see article near top of thread) that most NZ fans could already name 25 or so of the RWC squad, that there is room for more bolters than in the past and getting those last positions right will be the priority for the selectors now.

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    In 2015, the initial squad for the RWC consisted of:

    3 hookers
    5 props
    3 locks
    6 loosies
    3 halfbacks
    3 first five-eighths
    4 midfielders (2 second five-eighths and 2 centres)
    4 outside backs (2 specialist wings)

    The number of 10s and outside backs will depend on whether they name Dmac as a first five-eighth, fullback, or utility back, but you'd expect at least two specialist wings again. So Rieko and at least one of Naholo/Bridge. BFA will be a certainty if fit. So adding up the 10s and outside backs (7), there's probably only room for two of Naholo, Bridge and Jordie.

    Midfielders: probably four players, Crotty, Goodhue, ALB, and one of SBW/Laumape. Agree it should be Laumape, but ...

    Halfbacks select themselves.

    Lock/loosie will be interesting: will they count S Barrett as a lock or a loosie. Combined there should be 7 spots. Certainties are Retallick, S Whitelock, S Barret, A Savea, Read. Cane is a big question. Will he be fit enough in time? Will he come back as the quality player from before his broken neck. Todd will be in the conversation. The 6 jersey is the big question. S Barrett can play there; they might consider Cane for that spot, too.

    Props: we need at least 2 LH and 2 TH, and preferably one that can play both (Ofa). So probably Moody, Franks, Laulala, Ofa and ... Tu'inukuafe?

    Hookers: Taylor and Coles are certainties, if fit. I'm afraid Harris will be picked, too. It will be hard for any other hooker to play himself into the squad. I'd like them to try Makalio during the TRC, but don't think it will happen.

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    Back on topic. Lots of work ons still for them. But Shannon Frizzell,Dalton Papali'i, George Bridge and Will Jordan have all started the season well. Possible bolters if they keep improving.

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    @Stargazer said in RWC bolters:

    @sparky Why only 26?

    Probably because that's how many would be in ink if fit. Shag says most NZers could pick 25. This is the fern and we go one better. 😉

    Shows the spaces to fill if all goes to plan.

    1 prop (Karl T?)
    2 loosies (if S Barrett covers as 6/lock), (Squire? Frizzel? Ioane? Fifita?)
    1 halfback (TTT?)
    1 centre (ALB?Laumape?)
    1 outside back (Naholo? Bolter?)

    So in two of those empty slots the option is fairly obvious.
    Questions are loosies, centres (quite possible one of SBW or Crotty will be broken anyway) and if they stick with Naholo or surprise us.

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    @sparky I don't expect them to pick Jordan. Too many fullbacks already. Maybe in 2020.

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    @Stargazer

    I agree. Will Jordan probably only comes into play for the RWC if there is an injury to a more experienced player.

    But I think he would have the goods if needed. He already looks an improved player than in 2018, more pace, better vision. Ben Smith's replacement from 2020 IMHO.

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    Bolters - Bryn Hall, Bridge and Will Jordan. That would make a strong starting XV.

    Moody
    Taylor
    Franks
    Whitelock
    Romano
    S. Barrett
    Todd
    Read
    Hall
    Mo’unga
    Bridge
    Crotty
    Goodhue
    Havilli
    Jordan

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    I'm not sure I buy that a player who's previously been selected and has even played tests in the most recent tour, can be a bolter.

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