Blues v Hurricanes
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@Canerbry said in Blues v Hurricanes:
I read this thread going "fuckin stop moaning Kirwan", then read your self-righteous defenses, so this is the tally this thread:
Kirwan's Posts criticising the Ref: 17
Kirwan's Posts pro the Blues: 15
Kirwan's Posts criticising the Blues: 12
Kirwan's Posts criticising the Canes: 1
Kirwan's Neutral posts (no apparent bias): 11
Kirwan's Posts complaining about being called biased: 2Bah, who am I kidding, time to fact check!
More accurate totals;
Constructive feedback for the officials: 11
False dawn praise for the Blues: 13
What the actual frak Blues? 13
Stupid Ardie Savea is too good: 1
Neutral: 12
Tiresome posts explaining what a discussion forum is for: 657 posts from kick off to the final whistle
1 traditional post hating on TJ
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Enjoyed that game but it sucked that Plummer and Nock came off so early.
Blues were stuffed from then on (yes Pulu is that bad)
For Blues thought Faiane, Akira, Papali'i were the standouts (alongside Nock and Plummer early).
Nonu did some good things but also some bad things - he butchered a try not passing to Rieko and fumbled a few times.
Blues are just mind numbingly dumb. They panic in the attacking 22 like a teenage boy around a hot girl.
Blues had to work so hard for their tries whereas Canes did not have to work nearly as hard for theirs.
Some darn weird calls both ways by the ref both ways but thats Super Rugby reffing these days.
For Canes Jordie did some great things but also did some average things - The TJ overhype on commentary was too much. Canes scramble defense sensational - loved the way they attacked the breakdown. You just knew Beaudie would do something freakish just a matter of when. Perenara was just superb. Ardie likewise.
I want to see Nock and Plummer combo again when they are fit.
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@Higgins @Rocky-Rockbottom
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And name change is : Titoismyhero
Taking it easy on you.
On the game itself, Ardie once again got us home there. He has been consistently brilliant all year. I thought Walker-Leawere had a blinder and he has a big future. Everyone else in that pack were a bit meh - Kirifi was energetic when he came on. We won't be winning anything though if Toomaga Allen starts, he is just so damn weak at scrummaging.
In the backs Laumape was probably our best, he probably edged Nonu in the battle of the number 12's. Barrett brothers had a mixed bag, but Blues did well at times to put those two under pressure.
Overall enjoyable game and glad we got the result but we need to improve if we are any chance of winning the title.
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@Canes4life inexplicably, he just tried to get us demonitized on the Naughty Words thread and a mod has given him a full ban for it.
We have two stupid people post after that thread, one with just a temp ban.
Sorry to spoil your fun there.
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Argh really, obviously couldn't hack being a Canes fan for a week. Will get in touch with him when he returns (if he does).
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@Machpants said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Ardie is best player in Super Rugby ATM, at least in what I've watched (all NZ games, plus a few others)
Be interesting to see how the AB selectors use him
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@kiwiinmelb Cane at 6, Ardie at 7 maybe? Just really depends who they pick at 6.
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@Canes4life I'd never start Cane at 6; 6 cover at best. I think it will all depend on how well Cane plays when he comes back. I'm inclined to think that Ardie will get the start at 7 in the big games and at 8 in the lesser games (when they rest Read), unless Cane can convincingly show that he deserves the starting spot again.
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Well, back from the game.
Fark.
7 9 10 the big difference. Our 7 was OK, too.
Plummer was stone cold knocked out. Couldn't stand up; took three goes, rubber legs, wandered aimlessly and then fell down. Could be his season done.
We're just not good enough to win wihtout our share of the 50/50 calls. And they didn't go our way tongiht. We lost because we're dumb, but the ref didn't help us to get our shit together. 5 scrum penalties under the posts, and no PT; but we didn't do anything with the ball that we had. Just ongoing stupidity.
Most frustrating game I've sen, and the stupidist this year. Bah, humbug.
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@Canes4life nah I think they willl use a bigger 6 and not the 2 fetchers it’s going to be hard for Cane to nab 7, Savea playing with X factor
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@Chris said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life nah I think they willl use a bigger 6 and not the 2 fetchers it’s going to be hard for Cane to nab 7, Savea playing with X factor
And Cane is going to have hit the ground running in a big way .If Cane comes back in the next couple of games and doesn't get injured there is no way he won't be selected for the RC squads. From there he is still the preferred option to Todd so will go to Japan.
What they do once there is dependant on performances, gameplans and opposition.Cane is one of the hardest hitting tacklers so he ticks that box for 6. Also getting off the line and in the faces. He doesn't add to lineout options and isn't the guy you go to for carry over the gain line.
Those last two negatives could be cleverly worked around though.
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@Chris said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Crucial maybe but I can’t see Hansen going Cane and Savea in the big games
I have no doubt Cane will be in the squad
Hansen seems to like Squire at 6I can see him having one of the two as the bench impact though instead of a 6.
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Only managed to catch the 2nd half but from what i saw...
I'm bloody pleased/relieved/happy that TJP plays for the AB's - outstanding tonight and the perfect 9 to close out a close RWC2019 game
Ardie Savea has improved out of all recognition in the last 18 months. With Cane coming back we look good at 7.
Blues discipline and cool heads go walkabout far too often. Less than last year though so credit to Pat T and the coaching staff.
Akira Ioane needs to wind down the in-yer-face stuff and aggro once the whistle has stopped play if he's to make RWC19. The sort of crap he got involved with Jordy Barrett could cost us in tight games.
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@Crucial said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Crucial maybe but I can’t see Hansen going Cane and Savea in the big games
I have no doubt Cane will be in the squad
Hansen seems to like Squire at 6I can see him having one of the two as the bench impact though instead of a 6.
Pretty sure that we may see them in tandem at some point.I was thinking we may see them in tandem closing games ,
its a matter of who starts ,
Savea is in irresistible form and deserves to start , but you could argue Cane is more of a starter than an impact type ,
when given the opportunity Todd has shown he looks ok coming off the bench in an up the tempo way
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@nzzp it’s quite funny we actually identified those crucial numbers before the game..I thought TJ was magnificent,not only did he manage and school both Pulu and Akira but also Bryant with constant chatter pointing out technical things to plant in the officials ear..the leadership has to be bought into question, I liked the way TJ Faiane led the Auckland team last year and I do wonder if he is a natural leader and thinker.
It’s very depressing following this mob, I could only imagine what Rangi is thinking..we hold to ball more than any other team, but you can set your clock that we will turn ball over at some stage and totally lose our defensive pattern..
Thought Papali’i was the Blues best by some distance, others had their moments but many offered up individual errors when it really mattered ..
Was also great to see Scrafton get on the paddock, offered a lot of energy and chatter ( heard him really trying to pick the players up on a couple of occasions)
Akira needs to develop his game, we all know his power, but where’s the passing game looking for someone in a better position and backing up..and once again the return of the angry guy..temperament is a big thing in my book, when he loses the plot it means frustration has set in..We already had a penalty,and that had the potential to be reversed..
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@Steven-Harris yep, we called it before the game too. Knowing they are better, adn being able to do something about it is another thing
If we were going to win, it was going to be up front and out wide. And our wings didn't have a great day out there.
Parsons - great to get 100 games, but seems a bit small at this level still. Great bloke, huge heart, but that doesn't get you to the next level.
Ma'a just has a pass that is sex on toast. But prone to loose carries this year, and just doesn't have the pace he used to. Still a couple of injuries away from being a fringe squaddie fo rthe ABs I reckon.
I liked Laumape. Looked very very good out there, just good physical fast player. Short though.
TJP was simply outstanding. Manipulated the ref, pushed the line just right and played well. He's drinking my tears of salty, impotent rage with a smile on his face.
After 7 games I was happy with how we were tracking - a clear lift on last year. Last night was a major regression. Not fun to watch, and obviously not fun to coach either. We have done enough to win another 2-3 games this year, but just can't close these out. Tough times as a supporter.
